martin's visit and pictures-and still time to write

[C. Bebber]

It seems to run fine (except for the speed which only now I find is a bit slow). But I just got my bike (a used 2002) two weeks ago (my first KLR) so I wasn't sure what was "normal". I can swap out plugs, no problem but what else should I look at in terms of giving it a proper tune-up? Thanks!

On 4/15/06, mjearl@... wrote: > > Is your bike in good tune? Clean sparkplug? It should easily hit 100 > indicated with stock gearing. > > Our interstate system here (South Dakota) is 75mph and the KLR easily does > that, all day long) unless I am running the 14 tooth sprocket, then I will > idle back a bit, no more than 6K or 6500 RPM's. Oil consumption goes way up > over 6500 RPM's. I typically ride interstate speeds on the secondary roads > also with the 15-tooth sprocket. If the gravel roads have a long sight > range and the gravel is packed down hard, 65-70 is doable, non graveled dirt > is usually 50-55, but I never ride that fast with anyone watching, > following, as they are not likely to keep up without hurting themselves. > revmaaatin. > > Martin Earl > mjearl@... > > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:50 , C. Bebber sent: > > >On 4/15/06, revmaaa tin wrote: > >> How does a Kenda 270 feel at 60? 60 is a speed I rarely stay at very > >> long unless it is in the dirt/gravel. While riding on asphalt, 60 is > >> only a transatory speed while accelecerating or decelerating, so I > >> reckon its ok for me....(OK=fully satisfied) > > > >Just curious how fast you get your KLR going? Mine seems to really > >not want to go past 65-70. > > > > > >

[Ronald Criswell]

You must not like to take off fast. Criswell

On Apr 14, 2006, at 11:57 PM, John Biccum wrote: > The TKC80s are my favorite dual sport tire by far. IMHO they are the > compromise tire that demands the least compromise. They seem to be > great on > the street and great in the dirt. > > I just read a couple of mails that said that they wear out fast, > but that > has not been my experience. I get about 4500-5000 miles to a rear > and about > 9K to a front. I have 7422 on the front now and it still not close > to worn > out, and that is with a big rotor on it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of closetwestie > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:53 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What tires would you recommend? > > So I put out the same question on our local NW group and put the Cont. > TKC80's on and drove into work today. I'm sold!!! Beats the hell > out of the > gripsters that I had on it over the winter, while nice these feel > considerably more stable...even at speed. It will be a few weeks > before I > can play in the dirt so cant report on that, but I'm sure they will > perform > well there. They are steeper on price compared to some of the > others, and as > mentioned before might have a short lifespan. So far I'd buy them > again. > Don't think I'd replace them 4 times a year ($), but I was looking > for a > tire to get me thru the to the cold rain this fall and get me > and my > daughter out camping this summer. Any way as you can tell I'm > recommending > the TKC80's. > > Good Luck, > Mike > A12 > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> >> >> Another Hot "Don't buy!" Is the King 967. While it >> does have incredible short conrnering ability at low >> speed (it's an 82-20) it wobbles at high speed, and is >> a constant wash in dirt and gravel. Scariest 5000 >> miles I ever rode. I am running 606's right now, I am >> loving the dirt, but break neck stuff on the street, >> and they lock up at the slightest whim seeing as how >> your on one knob most of the time. But there a hoot in >> the dirt, thumpers a wheely machine right now. >> --- Ronald Criswell wrote: >> >>> They wore too quick for me. >>> >>> Criswell >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:36 PM, ATO137528@... >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on >>> pavement at all. The knobs >>>> squirm all over the place, and it's downright >>> frightening when leaning >>>> hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs >>> in gravel, too. A >>>> usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use >>> some pavement. >>>> Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. >>>> >>>> But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to >>> pop the extra bucks, >>>> get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the >>> pavement and great >>>> anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of >>> course, if you want to >>>> ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... >>> You're in for a >>>> bad >>>> day regardless of your tire chice. >>>> >>>> I'm a few miles from buying my third set. >>>> >>>> Lamar >>>> A14 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ >>>> klr650_data_search.html >>>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>> www.dualsportnews.com >>>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>> www.dualsportnews.com >>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Sean Brown >> International Order of the KLR. >> "yeh, unto the ride, the thumper, yeh, and it was good, and thine > did rejoice" amen >> matteeanne@... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Ronald Criswell]

I had mine up to ninety five. No problems. Criswell

On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:42 PM, revmaaatin wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Babin" wrote: > >> Revmaaatin, How did they feel on the road at 60 mph? Did they feel >> stable enough for a long asphalt drive? >> >> Brian >> > > Hi Brian, > How does a Kenda 270 feel at 60? 60 is a speed I rarely stay at very > long unless it is in the dirt/gravel. While riding on asphalt, 60 is > only a transatory speed while accelecerating or decelerating, so I > reckon its ok for me....(OK=fully satisfied) > > revmaaatin. who sometimes rides faster than his angel can fly > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[John Biccum]

Tire inflation probably has more to do with it unless you make a habit of spinning the rear tire on every start. I carry a tire gage and use it regularly. I run 32F and 35R on the street and as low as 15F and 15R off road. This tire has 7743 miles on it now including trips to Death Valley and the Lolo Motorway: http://johnbiccum.smugmug.com/gallery/497409/1/64708202 -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Criswell [mailto:roncriswell@...] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:12 AM To: John Biccum Cc: 'closetwestie'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What tires would you recommend? You must not like to take off fast. Criswell

On Apr 14, 2006, at 11:57 PM, John Biccum wrote: > The TKC80s are my favorite dual sport tire by far. IMHO they are the > compromise tire that demands the least compromise. They seem to be > great on the street and great in the dirt. > > I just read a couple of mails that said that they wear out fast, but > that has not been my experience. I get about 4500-5000 miles to a > rear and about 9K to a front. I have 7422 on the front now and it > still not close to worn out, and that is with a big rotor on it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of closetwestie > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:53 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What tires would you recommend? > > So I put out the same question on our local NW group and put the Cont. > TKC80's on and drove into work today. I'm sold!!! Beats the hell out > of the gripsters that I had on it over the winter, while nice these > feel considerably more stable...even at speed. It will be a few weeks > before I can play in the dirt so cant report on that, but I'm sure > they will perform well there. They are steeper on price compared to > some of the others, and as mentioned before might have a short > lifespan. So far I'd buy them again. > Don't think I'd replace them 4 times a year ($), but I was looking for > a tire to get me thru the to the cold rain this fall and get me and > my daughter out camping this summer. Any way as you can tell I'm > recommending the TKC80's. > > Good Luck, > Mike > A12 > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> >> >> Another Hot "Don't buy!" Is the King 967. While it does have >> incredible short conrnering ability at low speed (it's an 82-20) it >> wobbles at high speed, and is a constant wash in dirt and gravel. >> Scariest 5000 miles I ever rode. I am running 606's right now, I am >> loving the dirt, but break neck stuff on the street, and they lock up >> at the slightest whim seeing as how your on one knob most of the >> time. But there a hoot in the dirt, thumpers a wheely machine right >> now. >> --- Ronald Criswell wrote: >> >>> They wore too quick for me. >>> >>> Criswell >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:36 PM, ATO137528@... >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on >>> pavement at all. The knobs >>>> squirm all over the place, and it's downright >>> frightening when leaning >>>> hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs >>> in gravel, too. A >>>> usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use >>> some pavement. >>>> Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. >>>> >>>> But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to >>> pop the extra bucks, >>>> get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the >>> pavement and great >>>> anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of >>> course, if you want to >>>> ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... >>> You're in for a >>>> bad >>>> day regardless of your tire chice. >>>> >>>> I'm a few miles from buying my third set. >>>> >>>> Lamar >>>> A14 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ >>>> klr650_data_search.html >>>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>> www.dualsportnews.com >>>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>> www.dualsportnews.com >>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>> www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Sean Brown >> International Order of the KLR. >> "yeh, unto the ride, the thumper, yeh, and it was good, and thine > did rejoice" amen >> matteeanne@... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Tony JONES]

If you look at Mike Silverstein's page you see a reported range of between 2500 miles and 11000 miles for the rear GP110 which is truly an impressive difference!! Assuming equivalent inflation, it's almost always a function of how hard you get on the gas out of a turn. My front GP110 looks almost new but at 1500 miles I'm ~50% thru the rear (nearly all twisties). Not sure what I'll try when these wear out. Maybe a IRC GP1 to see how it compares to the GP110. I'm expecting it will be more dirt oriented than the 110 (couldn't stand the K270 leaned over). Maybe a D606 or maybe a TKX80. Hmmn, so many choices The TKX t

> From: "John Biccum" > Subject: RE: Re: What tires would you recommend? > > Tire inflation probably has more to do with it unless you make a habit of > spinning the rear tire on every start. I carry a tire gage and use it > regularly. I run 32F and 35R on the street and as low as 15F and 15R off > road. > > This tire has 7743 miles on it now including trips to Death Valley and the > Lolo Motorway: > http://johnbiccum.smugmug.com/gallery/497409/1/64708202=20=20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald Criswell [mailto:roncriswell@...]=20 > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:12 AM > To: John Biccum > Cc: 'closetwestie'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What tires would you recommend? > > You must not like to take off fast. > > Criswell > On Apr 14, 2006, at 11:57 PM, John Biccum wrote: > > > The TKC80s are my favorite dual sport tire by far. IMHO they are the=20 > > compromise tire that demands the least compromise. They seem to be=20 > > great on the street and great in the dirt. > > > > I just read a couple of mails that said that they wear out fast, but=20 > > that has not been my experience. I get about 4500-5000 miles to a=20 > > rear and about 9K to a front. I have 7422 on the front now and it=20 > > still not close to worn out, and that is with a big rotor on it.

[Don S]

Hey Rev: With everything you have going on, how do you manage to find time to write? Your messages are interesting, humorous and entertaining. Keep it up. Don... "Of the Great White North who rides with angels in a hurry to get somewhere warm" revmaaatin wrote: Bottom posted below. revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Listers, Don, > > Martin Earl just left for home. We had a fine time with his visit here. > We had a nice 50 smiles or so ride on Wednesday evening right after > Martin arrived. For those folks planning on riding in the Beautiful > Black Hills of South Dakota be warned the deer did well last winter and > I've never seen more than I did on our ride. Martin described it as like > herds of mice. We saw one herd of at least 40 deer and many herds of > 20-30 deers. All of these very near the road. On Thursday during the > day he got some errands finished while I was working. I got home and he > had his KLR ready to work on and also his KLX300 was stripped and ready > for a valve adjustment. We checked the valves and all needed different > shims. The local dealer is great about selling shims and had what we > needed in stock. I think for 3 shims Martin paid about $11. On Thursday > evening Martin took care of some Parish business in Spearfish about 60 > miles north while I attended my monthly fly fishing club meeting. On > Friday we finished the KLX valve adjustment and buttoned it up. Then we > started on his KLR and cleaned his and my air filters. After that we > started building sideracks for his Ortlieb Dry Saddlebags. That bending > and filing and welding and grinding takes a bit longer than I ever > remember but we had a good visit and lots of fun making them fit his > bike. We also swapped his left heated grip so it will be on low when the > right grip is on high. Of course when the heated grips are on low the > left side will now be on broil. But I think it'll work fine for now and > he'll probably only use them on high. We talked about it a bit and I > think if we were doing this again we'd swap the throttle and clutch side > heating elements when we installed the heaters and have the hotter side > on the throttle tube. Martin also flushed his forks and replaced the > fork oil with Bel-Ray 10wt. Only about 200 smiles earlier he'd flushed > and installed 15wt and although he thought it was ok he couldn't find any > locally to adjust the oil level. He also changed the spacers with the > Progressive springs from 2 1/2 inches to 2 1/8 inches. Last night we > didn't get a chance for a ride but we did bounce the front ends a few > times to compare my stock springs to his progressive springs with the 2 > 1/8" spacers. The progressive springs on his bike were just a bit > stiffer but the shorter spacers we both thought would improve the ride > and remove a bit of the harshness from the longer spacers. We had a fine > visit and got some good work done in the shop. It's been a busy 2 1/2 > days. > > I did take a few pictures of Martin's bike. I post some pictures of his > stock plastic handguards cut to fit on the Moose Barkbusters. To see > them take a look in the group photo albums in the folder called > "Handguards". > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > Hello list, Once again I have been 'victimized' by the benevolence of the dsn-klr- 650 community and in particular by the above poster, Jeff Saline. Almost three years ago, I read with envy about the DC corridor folks, Zack Mully, and others, that were having doohickey maintenance days, and tongue and cheek, asked if they would like to ride to South Dakota and have one in God's country. (I know its God's' country, hardly anyone else lives here!) Some fella named Jeff Saline said, hey, comes to Rapid City, SD, and we will have a doohickey party. Several emails and conversations later, I was in Rapid (as we call it here) and met Jeff, and what followed during the last two years is a bike that anyone could ride anywhere, a new found friend that you would do anything for, and an invitation to ride the GDR with 4 other guys I had never met. Of the three things listed, the most important to me is the friendship and knowledge I have gained from Jeff, and the collective wisdom of the KLR list. Jeff commented that we did some maintenance, but sadly, he failed to mention the (best part of wrenching is eating; and the choir said A-Men) rib steaks, the beautiful roast beef and incredible deer brats that we fixed to eat while we were working together. Jeff refers to the marinade as the 'Parsons secret Marinade', which I will share with you here. 'Parsons secret Marinade' Mix in a small mixing bowl 1/2 c. soy sauce 1/2+ c of vinegar (apple or fancy, even better) Heaping table spoon of brown sugar Healthy dash of olive oil Dash of crushed red peppers (to taste) 'Italian seasoning' (dried spices) Put enough in to cover most of the other ingredients (at least 2-4tablespoons) Heaping table spoon of crushed garlic Fresh ground pepper Stir ingredients together until sugar is melted. Take your meat, and fork it thoroughly so the ingredients can penetrate. Place the meat in a flat container, (I prefer air-tight) and pour the marinade over the meat. Cover, refrigerate. If the meat is thick, rotate it in the marinade during the day. I like it to marinade for at least 6, 12 hours better, 24 hours best. I use the marinade as a basting as the steaks cook. I usually use up all the marinade for basting as the steak cooks. Grill to your personal taste. (CAUTION; Pay attention!) When you pour the marinade on the steaks, you will get a little flash, as the olive oil and sugar burns, and the flames jump, this glazes the brown sugar stuck to the meat. We also cooked the roast in a crock-pot in its own marinade, soaked 12 hours in the same recipe, above. Goooood, stuff. We let the roast cool down and set for one day, eating it as a roast-beef sub the following day. Gooood, stuff, but I said that already. The deer brats; neither of us drink beer, so we forgot that you are 'supposed' to soak them in beer before bbq-ing them. They were still good. Fixed with chopped lettuce, Italian dressing, and a little mayo on a very nice bun. Wow. My mouth is watering just writing this. Did I mention, we also worked on the bikes.... and played dodge ball with the Black Hills deer, coming to a complete stop, again, and again, as the deer scattered for cover? It is nutz, so many deer. But Jeff said all that. I asked him yesterday, "You didn't know that you were going to adopt me, did you!" What I have learned, re-learned, experience from him, I am now sharing with the neighborhood kids that want to ride dirtbikes. A kind of pay it foward principal, from Jeff, to the kids in my community. I can't believe he did not mention the food! revmaaatin. who loves KLR's and the not-so 'secret recipe', but grills better than he wrenches (we all need to be good for something...) Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]