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[Ronald Criswell]

They wore too quick for me. Criswell

On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:36 PM, ATO137528@... wrote: > The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on pavement at all. The knobs > squirm all over the place, and it's downright frightening when leaning > hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs in gravel, too. A > usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use some pavement. > Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. > > But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to pop the extra bucks, > get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the pavement and great > anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of course, if you want to > ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... You're in for a > bad > day regardless of your tire chice. > > I'm a few miles from buying my third set. > > Lamar > A14 > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Another Hot "Don't buy!" Is the King 967. While it does have incredible short conrnering ability at low speed (it's an 82-20) it wobbles at high speed, and is a constant wash in dirt and gravel. Scariest 5000 miles I ever rode. I am running 606's right now, I am loving the dirt, but break neck stuff on the street, and they lock up at the slightest whim seeing as how your on one knob most of the time. But there a hoot in the dirt, thumpers a wheely machine right now. --- Ronald Criswell wrote:

> They wore too quick for me. > > Criswell > > On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:36 PM, ATO137528@... > wrote: > > > The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on > pavement at all. The knobs > > squirm all over the place, and it's downright > frightening when leaning > > hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs > in gravel, too. A > > usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use > some pavement. > > Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. > > > > But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to > pop the extra bucks, > > get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the > pavement and great > > anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of > course, if you want to > > ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... > You're in for a > > bad > > day regardless of your tire chice. > > > > I'm a few miles from buying my third set. > > > > Lamar > > A14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > > klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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Sean Brown International Order of the KLR. "yeh, unto the ride, the thumper, yeh, and it was good, and thine did rejoice" amen matteeanne@... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Brian Babin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Krgrife@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2006 12:12:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > judjonzz@ writes: > > > > "There are plenty of tires that perform OK, but if you care about > cost and > > durability, there are > > only three choices:" > > > > I would add the Kings KT966 to that list, I have used several > sets and it > > has proven to be quite durable. I stopped using the Kenda 3 or 4 > years ago > > after having the center knobs on the rear chunk badly. > > Kurt > > > Hi Kurt, > > Sounds like your smilage, measured as wheelies/(center-knob-damage) > is lower than most. In three Kenda 270, I have yet to spit out a > center knob. Are you on a lot of sharp rocks? > > revmaaatin. >

Revmaaatin, How did they feel on the road at 60 mph? Did they feel stable enough for a long asphalt drive? Brian

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, ATO137528@ wrote: > > > > The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on pavement at all. The knobs > > squirm all over the place, and it's downright frightening when leaning > > hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs in gravel, too. A > > usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use some pavement. > > Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. > > > > But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to pop the extra bucks, > > get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the pavement and great > > anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of course, if you want to > > ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... You're in for a bad > > day regardless of your tire chice. > > > > I'm a few miles from buying my third set. > > > > Lamar > > A14 > > > > Which is WHY the Kenda's are on my bike, I like mud and sand.. > > The 270's are not that bad on pavement, if you remember your riding a > dirt bike with a really high center of gravity and take corners slowly. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape >

The TKC80s work fine while they last. If I had a lifetime supply from the producers of Wheel of Fortune, and a couple of eunuchs in turbans on call to change them every couple thousand miles, I might run them. As it is, I can't afford a tire I would have to change out four times a year, and they don't pass the cheapskate test. The squirmage of the K270s is an acknowledged disadvantage. I manage to ride them pretty briskly anyway, as I don't drag pegs much, especially with touring loads. If I were out to show the sportbikers a thing or two, I wouldn't run them. It's your money. Spend it how you want.

[dooden]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, ATO137528@ wrote: > > > > > > The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on pavement at all. The

knobs

> > > squirm all over the place, and it's downright frightening when

leaning

> > > hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs in gravel,

too. A

> > > usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use some pavement. > > > Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. > > > > > > But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to pop the extra

bucks,

> > > get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the pavement and great > > > anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of course, if you

want to

> > > ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... You're in

for a bad

> > > day regardless of your tire chice. > > > > > > I'm a few miles from buying my third set. > > > > > > Lamar > > > A14 > > > > > > > Which is WHY the Kenda's are on my bike, I like mud and sand.. > > > > The 270's are not that bad on pavement, if you remember your riding a > > dirt bike with a really high center of gravity and take corners

slowly.

> > > > Dooden > > A15 Green Ape > > > > The TKC80s work fine while they last. If I had a lifetime supply

from the producers of

> Wheel of Fortune, and a couple of eunuchs in turbans on call to

change them every couple

> thousand miles, I might run them. As it is, I can't afford a tire I

would have to change out

> four times a year, and they don't pass the cheapskate test. > > The squirmage of the K270s is an acknowledged disadvantage. I manage

to ride them

> pretty briskly anyway, as I don't drag pegs much, especially with

touring loads. If I were

> out to show the sportbikers a thing or two, I wouldn't run them. > > It's your money. Spend it how you want. >

Hey !! Did'nt I just say that.. Never said "I" have'nt pushed them beyond what I would consider.. ummm smart. Dooden A15 Green Ape

[closetwestie]

So I put out the same question on our local NW group and put the Cont. TKC80's on and drove into work today. I'm sold!!! Beats the hell out of the gripsters that I had on it over the winter, while nice these feel considerably more stable...even at speed. It will be a few weeks before I can play in the dirt so cant report on that, but I'm sure they will perform well there. They are steeper on price compared to some of the others, and as mentioned before might have a short lifespan. So far I'd buy them again. Don't think I'd replace them 4 times a year ($), but I was looking for a tire to get me thru the to the cold rain this fall and get me and my daughter out camping this summer. Any way as you can tell I'm recommending the TKC80's. Good Luck, Mike A12

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > Another Hot "Don't buy!" Is the King 967. While it > does have incredible short conrnering ability at low > speed (it's an 82-20) it wobbles at high speed, and is > a constant wash in dirt and gravel. Scariest 5000 > miles I ever rode. I am running 606's right now, I am > loving the dirt, but break neck stuff on the street, > and they lock up at the slightest whim seeing as how > your on one knob most of the time. But there a hoot in > the dirt, thumpers a wheely machine right now. > --- Ronald Criswell wrote: > > > They wore too quick for me. > > > > Criswell > > > > On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:36 PM, ATO137528@... > > wrote: > > > > > The Kenda 270 is not a comfortable tire on > > pavement at all. The knobs > > > squirm all over the place, and it's downright > > frightening when leaning > > > hard. In the wet? No thanks. I've chunked knobs > > in gravel, too. A > > > usable tire if you only putter when you hafta' use > > some pavement. > > > Great in the dirt. Cheap, too. > > > > > > But if you want a GREAT tire and aren't afraid to > > pop the extra bucks, > > > get some Continental TKC-80's. Great on the > > pavement and great > > > anywhere off-road except mud and deep sand. Of > > course, if you want to > > > ride a 350+ pound KLR in mud or deep sand, well... > > You're in for a > > > bad > > > day regardless of your tire chice. > > > > > > I'm a few miles from buying my third set. > > > > > > Lamar > > > A14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > > > klr650_data_search.html > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Brown > International Order of the KLR. > "yeh, unto the ride, the thumper, yeh, and it was good, and thine did rejoice" amen > matteeanne@... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

[Matt]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> If I were > out to show the sportbikers a thing or two, I wouldn't run them. >

You're right about that Jud! A couple weeks ago I went to a sport bike tech day a buddy of mine was hosting. The focus was on suspension and I needed the extra hands to help set the sag on my new MMP spring. The attendees were from bigbikeworld.com (originally a group formed around the ZX-11) and sport-touring.net. It was a "mature" group so at the end of the day I went on a ride with the few remaining locals; in the rain no less and through the twisties where the KLR should shine. Ya, right ;>/ The group consisted of an R1, FZ1, F4, and my KLR laced with a K-270 in the rear and a GP-1 up front. To tell you the truth, I don't care what tires you got I don't see how a KLR could keep up with those things. So I don't even try. And for that the K-270 (rear) is just fine. I put this tire on last September before ESR III. I think I've got close to 7,000 miles on it so far and have commuted on it almost daily in one of the wettest Northern CA winters I can remember. It hasn't been a problem. I've got another waiting in the wings. Matt

[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:26:07 -0000 "Brian Babin" writes:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > Hi Kurt, > > > > Sounds like your smilage, measured as > wheelies/(center-knob-damage) > > is lower than most. In three Kenda 270, I have yet to spit out a > > > center knob. Are you on a lot of sharp rocks? > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > Revmaaatin, How did they feel on the road at 60 mph? Did they feel > stable enough for a long asphalt drive? > > Brian > <><><><><> > <><><><><>

Brian, Martin and I were just talking about this. He's at my place for a few days of wrenching and maybe some riding. Last night we got in about 50 smiles of dirt and pavement. Both of us run K270s and ride in a somewhat sporting manner some of the time. Neither of us notice the tires as being a limiting factor in how we ride. But we also don't normally ride at 70 in a 35 zone. Martin and I both feel we don't notice the tires at all on a long ride other than having confidence in them and knowing we don't have to wonder if they'll work. We've both been running only Kendas for the last 12,000 plus smiles each. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Matt]

Something else I find interesting about the rear K-270 is that it has the highest load range of any other tire I've tried. Load range C vs. load range B. Matt

[Matt Smith]

Ok, then what size kendas? I noticed they don't use the usual 90/90-21 sizing on their site. Cheers, M.

On 4/13/06, Matt wrote: > Something else I find interesting about the rear K-270 is that it has > the highest load range of any other tire I've tried. Load range C vs. > load range B. > > Matt > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >