new klr650 2006 $5099 otd. ?orange county, ca

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

Then when you look at that perhaps 10% profit on the deal, now subtract overhead, such as building, utilities, telephones, taxes, employees, maintenance, accounting, office expenses, insurance, advertising, ect, etc, etc if you have ever owned a business. That 10% profit rapidly becomes 3% profit. And all for working far more than a 40 hours a week, and the risk of owning a business instead of being a well fed 9-5 government worker like me... Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Peplinski]

Ah yes, capitalism. You gotta love it. When I was looking for a used KLR, I'd have looked for an older green one over a newer red one (no offense to you red KLR owners, just my choice). Looking at the '06 I'd gladly pay a "c" for genuine Kawasaki green. The joy of a bargain fades soon while the cost of satisfaction lives long.

>From: it >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] '06 Color Choices >Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:42:44 -0800 (PST) > >A dealer told me it's $100 extra for the lime green KLR650. Is this true; >never heard such a thing >excpet for metallic paint on some cars. > >By the way, what color is your '06? > >Ted > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[firefighter_joe05]

PSSSSST..... Just get the red one..... Everyone knows they are faster...... Joe

[Jim Link]

Find another dealer.. I called 15 dealers when I bought mine, and only 2 would deal. I had a trade in. Find the best deal and go for it.. and Ride!!! even if you pay the $100.00 you wont be sorry.. --- it wrote:

> A dealer told me it's $100 extra for the lime green > KLR650. Is this true; never heard such a thing > excpet for metallic paint on some cars. > > By the way, what color is your '06? > > Ted > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Eric Lee Green]

Bob wrote:

>Ok, sorry but I can't let this go without putting in my 2cents on >this one. What country are we in? Is this America or what??? > >Rather than a "Better Yet" response to complain to Kawasaki USA. My >Best Yet response to those who think complaining to Kawasaki is a >good idea. I'd say they would really be better off spending some time >getting an education in economics and capitalism instead. Last I knew > >

And I think you need to get a grip on this thing called "CUSTOMER RELATIONS". In the short term, ripping off customers makes you more profit. In the long term, it encourages your customers to go elsewhere. Unfortunately, short-term thinking is predominant today. Nobody cares about the long term anymore. They just care about how many people they can rip off in the short term before retiring on their ill-gotten gains. And some folks wonder why the United States is losing its economic edge to countries overseas that *do* look at the long term?! I want to know who this rip-off dealer is so that I can avoid them. I'm sure other people here want to know too. And heck, Kawasaki may even want to know, though I doubt it, as far as I can tell Kawasaki is so desperate for dealers that they'll give a dealership to every Tom, Harry, and Dick out there, no matter how incompetent or evil they are. -E

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

For what it is worth, it is entirely possible the original poster misunderstood the reason for the $100 more for the green. He may have thought the dealer said Kawi said it was more, instead of it was just the dealer charging more due to the greater demand/lower supply of the green bikes. By the way, when I bought my red one, they were having trouble selling the green ones. Also, most of the reason other countries are making money is not necessarily their apparent superior view regarding the long term/short term economics. It is because they have a very cheap labor base which the U.S. can no longer compete with, such as all of the regulations, lawsuits, and labor unions. (and yes, my job is union) Jeff A20 -----Original Message----- From: Eric Lee Green To: Bob Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 10:26:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: '06 Color Choices Bob wrote:

>Ok, sorry but I can't let this go without putting in my 2cents on >this one. What country are we in? Is this America or what??? > >Rather than a "Better Yet" response to complain to Kawasaki USA. My >Best Yet response to those who think complaining to Kawasaki is a >good idea. I'd say they would really be better off spending some time >getting an education in economics and capitalism instead. Last I knew > >

And I think you need to get a grip on this thing called "CUSTOMER RELATIONS". In the short term, ripping off customers makes you more profit. In the long term, it encourages your customers to go elsewhere. Unfortunately, short-term thinking is predominant today. Nobody cares about the long term anymore. They just care about how many people they can rip off in the short term before retiring on their ill-gotten gains. And some folks wonder why the United States is losing its economic edge to countries overseas that *do* look at the long term?! I want to know who this rip-off dealer is so that I can avoid them. I'm sure other people here want to know too. And heck, Kawasaki may even want to know, though I doubt it, as far as I can tell Kawasaki is so desperate for dealers that they'll give a dealership to every Tom, Harry, and Dick out there, no matter how incompetent or evil they are. -E Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Andrew Tuning]

I thought these came from the factory this year with the lime green. What is the dealer going to do if he does not want it in lime green, take the plastics and the tank off? I think that is the purpose of his post. I understand profit margins but I think it is ridiculous for the dealer to charge extra for something that is already on the bike. On the other hand, if the dealer is going to remove everything that is lime green from the bike or charge you $100.00 to leave it on, then I think you ought to go price this stuff out on eBay. The last plastic kit I bought was $126.00 and did not include the tank which are going for around $170.00 and up! Oh, and that was for a '95 KLR. -Andy andyt59@... http://myweb.cableone.net/tbernard -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jokerloco9@... Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:50 PM To: berbenich@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: '06 Color Choices Then when you look at that perhaps 10% profit on the deal, now subtract overhead, such as building, utilities, telephones, taxes, employees, maintenance, accounting, office expenses, insurance, advertising, ect, etc, etc if you have ever owned a business. That 10% profit rapidly becomes 3% profit. And all for working far more than a 40 hours a week, and the risk of owning a business instead of being a well fed 9-5 government worker like me... Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I'm not sure I understand your post, but I will clarify: The 2006 KLR is available in both green and red straight from the factory. I saw both when I bought mine. At the time, the red was selling faster, but both were the same price, at my particular dealer. There is no dealer switching parts required. Apparently, the original poster thought the dealer was doing something sinister by charging $100 more for the green ones. It should also be noted that even at the increased green price, the dealer is still selling at well below MSRP. (for whatever MSRP means to economics). Seasoned new vehicle buyers know it is standard policy for dealers to raise prices for popular models or ones in short supply. Actually, that is how the whole world works. Jeff A20 -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Tuning To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups. com DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 06:43:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: '06 Color Choices I thought these came from the factory this year with the lime green. What is the dealer going to do if he does not want it in lime green, take the plastics and the tank off? I think that is the purpose of his post. I understand profit margins but I think it is ridiculous for the dealer to charge extra for something that is already on the bike. On the other hand, if the dealer is going to remove everything that is lime green from the bike or charge you $100.00 to leave it on, then I think you ought to go price this stuff out on eBay. The last plastic kit I bought was $126.00 and did not include the tank which are going for around $170.00 and up! Oh, and that was for a '95 KLR. -Andy andyt59@... http://myweb.cableone.net/tbernard -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jokerloco9@... Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:50 PM To: berbenich@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: '06 Color Choices Then when you look at that perhaps 10% profit on the deal, now subtract overhead, such as building, utilities, telephones, taxes, employees, maintenance, accounting, office expenses, insurance, advertising, ect, etc, etc if you have ever owned a business. That 10% profit rapidly becomes 3% profit. And all for working far more than a 40 hours a week, and the risk of owning a business instead of being a well fed 9-5 government worker like me... Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eric Lee Green]

jokerloco9@... wrote:

> >Apparently, the original poster thought the dealer was doing something sinister by charging $100 more for the green ones. It should also be noted that even at the increased green price, the dealer is still selling at well below MSRP. (for whatever MSRP means to economics). > >

Ah. I didn't see the "selling well below MSRP" part. I thought this dealer was marking up the green ones *above* MSRP. Which most people interpret as "price gouging" and which is very bad business practice in the long term because it pisses off your potential customers. If he has more reds than greens and wants to get rid of the reds first, thus discounts them more, no big deal. -E

[Mike Frey]

Eric Lee Green wrote:

>If he has more reds than greens and wants to get rid of the reds first, >thus discounts them more, no big deal. > >-E > > >

Yeah, it's all in the words. The dealer should be saying "I am selling the red ones at a greater discount" and not "The green ones cost more". Reminds me a bit of the original Kawasaki KZ-400 Special. I think it was 1976. Opposite problem. $995 got you a KZ-400 that had drum brakes and no electric start - a less expensive entry level bike. Problem was, the color.... "Pink Panther", we all called it. People wouldn't buy them. The dealer I worked for started putting the brown/gold tanks from the regular version and complained to mama, along with every other dealer in the US. Finally, Kawasaki sent out replacement tanks and side covers. The Kawi dealer had an attic full of pink. Mike