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Dennis N.
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grip heater instalation

Post by Dennis N. » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:01 pm

I ordered some grip heaters from arrowhead yesterday will be instaling them this weekend, Would appreciate any tips on the installation. what would be the best power source? - should I use grip glue? - anyone know a good way to cut a hole in the end of the grips (progrip 714)? When I put on my bar weights I butchered them pretty good I'm sure I will have to cut them off so I got new ones. Thanks in advance for any advice Ps. If any of you are in the north east Texas area you might want to check out the chapparal trail its a abandoned RR that runs from Merit TX. to New Boston TX. here are a few pics of the section near my house http://greengoose.smugmug.com/gallery/354204 Dennis / Greenville TX.

Fred Hink
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grip heater instalation

Post by Fred Hink » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:17 pm

I have heard of some that have used those mystery wires in the fairing with good results. At least these wires are switched so you don't have to worry about leaving them on and running down your battery. I would take a hammer to the end of your grips and let the handlebars cut a nice round clean hole. I now have heat in my shop. Radiant heat is GREAT! Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis N." To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Grip heater instalation > > > I ordered some grip heaters from arrowhead yesterday will be > instaling them this weekend, Would appreciate any tips on the > installation. what would be the best power source? - should I use > grip glue? - anyone know a good way to cut a hole in the end of the > grips (progrip 714)? When I put on my bar weights I butchered them > pretty good I'm sure I will have to cut them off so I got new ones. > Thanks in advance for any advice > Ps. If any of you are in the north east Texas area you might want to > check out the chapparal trail its a abandoned RR that runs from > Merit TX. to New Boston TX. here are a few pics of the section near > my house http://greengoose.smugmug.com/gallery/354204 > Dennis / Greenville TX.

Guy B. Young II
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grip heater instalation

Post by Guy B. Young II » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:40 pm

Dennis, I'm gonna take a gamble and assume you got this type from Fred: Enduro Engineering Grip Heaters 16-2420 These appear to be ones that are/were made by Kimpex, simply because they have the dropping resistor to go between the low and high settings. I highly recommend that the main power for these heaters go through an inposing relay that is connected through a fused lead. There are no connection points in the KLR's harness that can handle the current that these will require and still expect to get them to deliver the full wattage they are designed for. In addition, you want to be able to control these things with a control circuit that will assure that prying fingers can't turn them on when the bike is unattended, thereby leaving you with a dead battery. Altho' set up for the Kawasaki Concours, the link below will give you a circuit that will provide the above: http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/misc/electrical/gripheat/kimpex_heat.gif NOTE: a good substitute for the control blue wire in the diagram can be the brown/white euro running light wire that can be found on the RH side of the fairing bracket. This wire is 'cold' when the ignition is off, thus preventing the heaters from being inadvertantly left on, or switched on when the bike is off. To minimize heat loss of the LH heater through conduction to the exposed bar, I recommend you wrap a layer or two of electrical cambric tape around the bar before appling the heater element. This will provide a layer of insulation between the heater element and the metallic bar to minimize heat loss. The plastic throttle sleeve does that quite nicely for the RH grip. And finally, to poke a decent hole through the ends of your grips, find a length (~7") of 1/2"" electrical conduit, place the end of it down into the bore of the grip, center it up as good as possible, then whack the crap out of the back of it with a 'manly' hammer. This will cut a nice, round, concentric hole through the end of the grip that the bar end will nicely fit through. Have fun. Guy A16 Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- From: "Dennis N." Sent: Jan 13, 2005 7:00 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Grip heater instalation I ordered some grip heaters from arrowhead yesterday will be instaling them this weekend, Would appreciate any tips on the installation. what would be the best power source? - should I use grip glue? - anyone know a good way to cut a hole in the end of the grips (progrip 714)? When I put on my bar weights I butchered them pretty good I'm sure I will have to cut them off so I got new ones. Thanks in advance for any advice Ps. If any of you are in the north east Texas area you might want to check out the chapparal trail its a abandoned RR that runs from Merit TX. to New Boston TX. here are a few pics of the section near my house http://greengoose.smugmug.com/gallery/354204 Dennis / Greenville TX.

Guy B. Young II
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grip heater instalation

Post by Guy B. Young II » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:47 pm

I didn't finish this sentence: "I highly recommend that the main power for these heaters go through an inposing relay that is connected through a fused lead" ......... to the battery. -----Original Message----- From: "Guy B. Young II" Sent: Jan 13, 2005 7:40 PM To: "Dennis N." , DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Grip heater instalation Dennis, I'm gonna take a gamble and assume you got this type from Fred: Enduro Engineering Grip Heaters 16-2420 These appear to be ones that are/were made by Kimpex, simply because they have the dropping resistor to go between the low and high settings. I highly recommend that the main power for these heaters go through an inposing relay that is connected through a fused lead. There are no connection points in the KLR's harness that can handle the current that these will require and still expect to get them to deliver the full wattage they are designed for. In addition, you want to be able to control these things with a control circuit that will assure that prying fingers can't turn them on when the bike is unattended, thereby leaving you with a dead battery. Altho' set up for the Kawasaki Concours, the link below will give you a circuit that will provide the above: http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/misc/electrical/gripheat/kimpex_heat.gif NOTE: a good substitute for the control blue wire in the diagram can be the brown/white euro running light wire that can be found on the RH side of the fairing bracket. This wire is 'cold' when the ignition is off, thus preventing the heaters from being inadvertantly left on, or switched on when the bike is off. To minimize heat loss of the LH heater through conduction to the exposed bar, I recommend you wrap a layer or two of electrical cambric tape around the bar before appling the heater element. This will provide a layer of insulation between the heater element and the metallic bar to minimize heat loss. The plastic throttle sleeve does that quite nicely for the RH grip. And finally, to poke a decent hole through the ends of your grips, find a length (~7") of 1/2"" electrical conduit, place the end of it down into the bore of the grip, center it up as good as possible, then whack the crap out of the back of it with a 'manly' hammer. This will cut a nice, round, concentric hole through the end of the grip that the bar end will nicely fit through. Have fun. Guy A16 Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- From: "Dennis N." Sent: Jan 13, 2005 7:00 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Grip heater instalation I ordered some grip heaters from arrowhead yesterday will be instaling them this weekend, Would appreciate any tips on the installation. what would be the best power source? - should I use grip glue? - anyone know a good way to cut a hole in the end of the grips (progrip 714)? When I put on my bar weights I butchered them pretty good I'm sure I will have to cut them off so I got new ones. Thanks in advance for any advice Ps. If any of you are in the north east Texas area you might want to check out the chapparal trail its a abandoned RR that runs from Merit TX. to New Boston TX. here are a few pics of the section near my house http://greengoose.smugmug.com/gallery/354204 Dennis / Greenville TX.

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:20 am

I have TWO (2) copies of the KLR adventure book "Odyssey to Ushuaia", both signed by author Andres Carlstein. Once they're gone, I won't be getting any more. Each for $18.95 +$4.00 priority mail or $2.50 media mail in the US. I also have a few CDs left of my 235-image Labrador slide show presentation, The Aurora Road". $8.00 each + $1.75 first class postage US & Canada. Buy both and get free postage! Thanks, Mark

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