what to take to rally.

[dooden]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Krgrife@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 2/17/2005 11:40:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > peter.meilstrup@g... writes: > > Kurt, how do the Kings 966 compare to the Kenda 270? > > They handle better on pavement and I like the front better in anything > loose.

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> Kurt

Are you talking about the Kings KT-966 Dual Sport Rear Tire ? It looks like the OEM tread ? at least the K-270 is a knobby, the OEM tires were way too slick on anything offroad for me, except hardpack and flat rock. On pavement sure the OEM handled great. Dooden A15 Green Ape

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/17/2005 4:11:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dooden@... writes: Are you talking about the Kings KT-966 Dual Sport Rear Tire ? It looks like the OEM tread ? at least the K-270 is a knobby, the OEM tires were way too slick on anything offroad for me, except hardpack and flat rock. On pavement sure the OEM handled great. The 966 has a more aggressive tread than the stock Dunlop and much deeper as well. It has performed well for me in all around riding. I am rarely in mud since most of my riding is in the southern half of Ca. and in Baja but it has been just fine in sand, not like a MT21 but ok. I'm not trying to start a tire debate, just relating my experience after wearing out four or five pairs of K270's and three 966's. YMMV. Kurt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rodney Copeland]

That's pretty much how I've squeezed 9500 out of my last 2 sets of 858s, cept for the wheely part, a course. Course there street slicks by then. Hell Mike, at $110 for a pair, just bring another set if ya can. Rod,,,,just placed an order for a set of 606s. 120 90- 18 front, and a 130 90-17 rear, both shipped for $121 Rod,,,,wishin I was goin where you're goin,,,YeeeHaaaaa!!!! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T" wrote:

> Thanks Keith. I have received several affirmations similar to yours > regarding the air pressure, max speed, and gentle asphalt usage to

extend

> the life of the 606, including not being agressive in the corners,

gentle

> accelerating, soft braking, and moderation in head winds. It all

makes

> sense. > > Geez, 65-70mph - Might as well just mount my 14t sprocket rather

than using

> the 16t for the ride down, get my Ipod loaded up and put a pillow

on my

> tangbag so I can catch some Zzzzz's on the way down to Calexico. > > > > > Michael T > A16 > lasvegasrider > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Saltzer [mailto:k.saltzer@c...] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:25 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Dunlop D606s and realistic mileage

expectations

> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T" > wrote: > > Well, it decision time on how I will manage my tire usage next > month in > > Baja. I have a 400 mile asphault trip to Calexico, a 75/25 > (dirt /street > > mix) in baja for 1,500 miles and a return trip to Vegas for

another

> 400 > > miles. > > > Mike, stop trippin man. It's only 400 miles. > > I've had a couple of sets of 606's, (4 rears) and they do very

well.

> When I had to do some highway on them, I aired them all the way up

to 36.

> The'll do best at that psi on the highway. Keep your speed down

too. 65-70

> indicated will be fine as long as you don't have a strong head

wind. Jake

> went from Milford Utah, to Pittsburg Pa, to Chicago, and back to

Utah, (5000

> miles) and then got another 5000 out of his 606's! But he only

rides at

> 55-60 mph, never does wheelies, and leaves red lights and stop

signs with

> the throttle just barely cracked open. > > When I'm around my neck-o-the-woods, and still on the street, I air

down to

> mid to high twenty's. Then off road I go as low as 12 front > 14 rear. Those things have some tough sidewalls. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/17/2005 5:55:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Krgrife@... writes: The 966 has a more aggressive tread than the stock Dunlop and much deeper as well. It has performed well for me in all around riding. I am rarely in mud since most of my riding is in the southern half of Ca. and in Baja but it has been just fine in sand, not like a MT21 but ok. I'm not trying to start a tire debate, just relating my experience after wearing out four or five pairs of K270's and three 966's. YMMV. Kurt I've never seen the 966, but it sounds like it might be more like a dirt version of Pirelli MT70. Until I tried the 270 that got me into the GP1s the MT70 was my favorite. It wasn't a great dirt tire, but it was head and shoulders better than the OEM rubber. It always felt like a worn down dirt tire making me wish it had taller knobs so I can see the 966 being a good dirt tire. I always enjoy comparing notes when the tire threads come up. While I mostly run GP1s I still give other tires a try and what I try is mostly based I what I pick up from these threads. Like right now I'm running a set of 606s. I put them on for a DS ride and was blown away by the difference they made in the dirt. They aren't the street tire that the GP1 is, but its good enough I can live with it. By spring I expect to try a set of Karoos. Pat G'ville, NV [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/17/2005 8:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kdxkawboy@... writes: I've never seen the 966, but it sounds like it might be more like a dirt version of Pirelli MT70. Until I tried the 270 that got me into the GP1s the MT70 was my favorite. It wasn't a great dirt tire, but it was head and shoulders better than the OEM rubber. It always felt like a worn down dirt tire making me wish it had taller knobs so I can see the 966 being a good dirt tire. I used to run the MT70 years ago on my R80GS, liked it very much. The 966 is similar but with the taller knobs you mention and with a more rounded profile than the K270 so it feels to me a little more secure in corners, Kurt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/17/2005 8:56:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, Krgrife@... writes: I used to run the MT70 years ago on my R80GS, liked it very much. The 966 is similar but with the taller knobs you mention and with a more rounded profile than the K270 so it feels to me a little more secure in corners, Kurt Being a R80GS owner this tale will bring tears to your eyes, for the rest its a little segue into some bench racing ... I like to do the Reno 200 DS ride and up until five years ago the event catered to the serious GS crowd, They gave trails where if you were on a BMW you need to be teamed up to have a friend to help push your bike and the BMW guys loved it. I think it was 98 one of the guys was on a fully tricked out R80GS. He had the spoked rims and 21" front wheel and every dirt goodie offered for the bike. We were crossing a plateau with lots of wire gates separating pastures. My buddy and I are sitting at a gate when this group of BMW riders comes by. I look at the lead rider and his left boot is covered with fresh oil sand then I catch the small stream coming off the left valve cover where I notice the duct tape holding the valve cover to the head about the same time he shuts the engine off, laying the bike on its right side and asking his buddy for their last quart of oil. We get the story. He'd been showboating a couple of miles back, about where we had last passed them, and his read wheel caught the edge of a mostly buried boulder, the bike went into a pancake and it landed on the next rock, valve cover first, shearing off valve cover retaining stud and putting a hole the size of a goose egg in the lower back corner. This brainiac had figured he could flip the cover around so the hole was on the top and then the oil wouldn't run out. To hold the valve cover on he had run duct tape around the base of the cover to tape it to the head - obviously he'd never seen what heat, let alone oil, does to duct tape. And then he was going to ride it back. By the time he had reached us the duct tape was the predictable gooey mess and he had been using is left foot to hold the cover against the head. In the last three miles he had gone through two quarts of oil and was two quarts low. By this time we have a crowd of XRs, XLs and KTMs around and one of the guys speaks up, no way man, I live just four miles away I'll go get my truck and will haul the bike back before you destroy this fine machine. Of course this moron wasn't having nothing of it, seems his buddies hadn't any better luck trying to talk him out of his stupidity back up the road. He poured his last quart of oil in, held the cover against the head with his foot, started the engine and said see, its hardly dripping before riding off. We watch the group ride off and just short of going out of sight they stopped. As we came up, the bike was back on its right side with a rod where a rod ought not to be. Some people should not be allowed to own a motorcycle. Pat G'ville, NV [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Krgrife@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 2/17/2005 4:11:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dooden@y... writes: > > Are you talking about the Kings KT-966 Dual Sport Rear Tire ?

snip

> The 966 has a more aggressive tread than the stock Dunlop and much

deeper as

> well. It has performed well for me in all around riding. I am

rarely in

> mud since most of my riding is in the southern half of Ca. and in

Baja but it

> has been just fine in sand, not like a MT21 but ok. I'm not trying

to start a

> tire debate, just relating my experience after wearing out four or

five

> pairs of K270's and three 966's. YMMV. > Kurt

No debate here, just when I seen a image of one of the 966's it looked too tame to be used offroad, but then my offroad and yours are two different animals I suppose. One ride might result in everything from pavement to swamp muck for me. Dooden A15 Green Ape

[ron criswell]

Exactly. For the guys that think that expensive nice bike is a dirt bike, this should be required reading. I never have thought the heads sticking out would be too good in rocks. But you are right, some guys shouldn't own a bike (like my brother - in law). He says he don't like two strokes because they seize up on him too much. I have witnessed him pour straight gas into the tanks of his old Bultacos a number of times when he was low (with no oil added)! And they seized - go figure. Criswell

On Thursday, February 17, 2005, at 09:42 PM, kdxkawboy@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/17/2005 8:56:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Krgrife@... writes: > > > I used to run the MT70 years ago on my R80GS, liked it very much. > The 966 > is similar but with the taller knobs you mention and with a more > rounded > profile than the K270 so it feels to me a little more secure in > corners, > Kurt > > > > > > Being a R80GS owner this tale will bring tears to your eyes, for the > rest > its a little segue into some bench racing ... > > I like to do the Reno 200 DS ride and up until five years ago the > event > catered to the serious GS crowd, They gave trails where if you were > on a BMW you > need to be teamed up to have a friend to help push your bike and the > BMW guys > loved it. I think it was 98 one of the guys was on a fully tricked > out > R80GS. He had the spoked rims and 21" front wheel and every dirt > goodie offered > for the bike. > > We were crossing a plateau with lots of wire gates separating > pastures. My > buddy and I are sitting at a gate when this group of BMW riders comes > by. I > look at the lead rider and his left boot is covered with fresh oil > sand then I > catch the small stream coming off the left valve cover where I notice > the > duct tape holding the valve cover to the head about the same time he > shuts the > engine off, laying the bike on its right side and asking his buddy > for their > last quart of oil. > > We get the story. He'd been showboating a couple of miles back, about > where > we had last passed them, and his read wheel caught the edge of a > mostly > buried boulder, the bike went into a pancake and it landed on the next > rock, valve > cover first, shearing off valve cover retaining stud and putting a > hole the > size of a goose egg in the lower back corner. This brainiac had > figured he > could flip the cover around so the hole was on the top and then the oil > wouldn't run out. To hold the valve cover on he had run duct tape > around the base of > the cover to tape it to the head - obviously he'd never seen what > heat, let > alone oil, does to duct tape. And then he was going to ride it back. > > By the time he had reached us the duct tape was the predictable gooey > mess > and he had been using is left foot to hold the cover against the > head. In the > last three miles he had gone through two quarts of oil and was two > quarts > low. By this time we have a crowd of XRs, XLs and KTMs around and one > of the > guys speaks up, no way man, I live just four miles away I'll go get my > truck and > will haul the bike back before you destroy this fine machine. Of > course this > moron wasn't having nothing of it, seems his buddies hadn't any better > luck > trying to talk him out of his stupidity back up the road. He poured > his last > quart of oil in, held the cover against the head with his foot, > started the > engine and said see, its hardly dripping before riding off. We watch > the group > ride off and just short of going out of sight they stopped. As we came > up, > the bike was back on its right side with a rod where a rod ought not > to be. > > Some people should not be allowed to own a motorcycle. > > Pat > G'ville, NV > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/17/2005 9:44:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kdxkawboy@... writes: Being a R80GS owner this tale will bring tears to your eyes, for the rest its a little segue into some bench racing ... I had the GS about 12 years ago, thought it would be a good compromise for my Mexico riding. It had the Dakar kit with the 9 gallon tank and solo seat. I enjoyed it on the highway and on the better dirt roads but found it just too limiting. That was when after doing a lot of comparison shopping and riding I settled on the KLR. The Beemer is still in this area and I see it occasionally, it still looks mint and I think is used only on the street. Kurt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bill Watson]

Rod, the stocker front is a 21", did you mean to say 18" or have you managed to order the wrong front tire? I guess you could be one of the guys who have relaced to 18", but I didn't think you had... Bill Watson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rodney Copeland" Rod,,,,just placed an order for a set of 606s. 120 90- 18 front __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]