klrs and 1/4 mile times

[klr250not]

Real men can say "I have to go tinkle" and no-one says a word.

> Good point Mike, but for future reference, KLR Riders > either "take a leak", or "piss", they never pee, > unless of course they are a female, then it's ok. > --- Michael Silverstein > wrote: > > > > > My only disappointment after buying a KLR650 was > > that it sounded like an > > overgrown lawn mower, but when I discovered I could > > pull off into the > > woods almost anywhere to take a pee all was > > forgiven. > > > > Mike A18 > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release > > Date: 1/17/2005 > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

[Jim]

Well I guess I bought my A-15 with 2K miles right after the PO hit number 6. Jackpot! --Jim (rolled to 30K yesterday) A-15

> 6) Separation. Your sportbike friends and HDs are having sport with

you at

> red lights. You've been out accellerated by a Hundai. You put it

up for

> sale and stop riding it.

[Michael Silverstein]

Whether you call it piss or pee, step way back if I turn toward thee. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: matteeanne@... [mailto:matteeanne@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:44 PM > To: Michael Silverstein; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Phases of KLR ownership . . . > > > > Good point Mike, but for future reference, KLR Riders > either "take a leak", or "piss", they never pee, > unless of course they are a female, then it's ok. > --- Michael Silverstein > wrote: > > > > > My only disappointment after buying a KLR650 was > > that it sounded like an > > overgrown lawn mower, but when I discovered I could > > pull off into the > > woods almost anywhere to take a pee all was > > forgiven. > > > > Mike A18

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[Rodney Copeland]

Jim, why do I think you sold your KLR! Dam Alzeimers, Rod,,,thinkin I'm only a few away from 30,000

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > Well I guess I bought my A-15 with 2K miles right after the PO hit > number 6. Jackpot! > --Jim (rolled to 30K yesterday) > A-15 > > > > > 6) Separation. Your sportbike friends and HDs are having sport with > you at > > red lights. You've been out accellerated by a Hundai. You put it > up for > > sale and stop riding it.

[Eric L. Green]

> 5) The KLR is slow compared to sportbikes but thats like saying an > SUV is slow compared to a Porsche 911.

No, more like saying that a Yugo is slow compared to an SUV. The KLR is *SLOW*. No two ways about it. It's plenty powerful for the city, but take it out on the highway fully loaded and it wheezes and gasps for breath, especially if you take it to altitude. At high altitude on a slope while hauling 350 pounds of gear and blubber, my poor wheezy KLR can barely maintain 70mph. The only thing slower I've ever driven was my poor old Ford Aspire ("it aspires to be a real car"), which had 56 horsepower to drive 3,000 pounds of "car" around and would barely maintain 60mph on that same slope (and that only if I downloaded to fourth gear). But saying "It's faster than a Ford Aspire" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the KLR's engine performance! Yeah, reading lists like this should prepare you for the fact that it's slow. But not for *HOW* slow it is. I mean, it's a 650 freakin' CC bike! Sure, I didn't expect it to be as fast as the 650 twins I've ridden in the past, since it only has one lung, but I sure didn't expect it to be slower than a 350cc 1970's vintage twin that I rode in the past (and said 1970's vintage twin was AIR COOLED, didn't even have the advantage of water cooling to keep head temperatures down). Needless to say, horsepower is my one big beef with the KLR, and the one thing that can NOT be fixed with farkle . -E

[Mark Sampson]

The KLR is *SLOW*. Yep !! It's almost as slow as I am-----my riding level is really about 21HP But my ego won't let me be caught on a XR200. Mark Sampson

[klr250not]

Mines pretty new still but I havent heard it wheezin and gaspin at 80 indicated (73 true on mine); I was surprised how fast it went from 70 to 80 when I cranked it back, but less impressed now that I know the true speeds. Still seems reasonably peppy to me though. As to riding it at altitude, say up Pikes Peak, with a 350 lb load-- 70 mph is still a lot faster than one of those Yaks they use in the Himilayans. ----------------------

> > 5) The KLR is slow compared to sportbikes but thats like saying

an

> > SUV is slow compared to a Porsche 911. > > No, more like saying that a Yugo is slow compared to an SUV. > > The KLR is *SLOW*. No two ways about it. It's plenty powerful for

the

> city, but take it out on the highway fully loaded and it wheezes

and gasps

> for breath, especially if you take it to altitude. At high

altitude on a

> slope while hauling 350 pounds of gear and blubber, my poor wheezy

KLR can

> barely maintain 70mph. The only thing slower I've ever driven was

my poor

> old Ford Aspire ("it aspires to be a real car"), which had 56

horsepower

> to drive 3,000 pounds of "car" around and would barely maintain

60mph on

> that same slope (and that only if I downloaded to fourth gear).

But saying

> "It's faster than a Ford Aspire" isn't exactly a ringing

endorsement of

> the KLR's engine performance! > > Yeah, reading lists like this should prepare you for the fact that

it's

> slow. But not for *HOW* slow it is. I mean, it's a 650 freakin' CC

bike!

> Sure, I didn't expect it to be as fast as the 650 twins I've

ridden in the

> past, since it only has one lung, but I sure didn't expect it to

be slower

> than a 350cc 1970's vintage twin that I rode in the past (and said

1970's

> vintage twin was AIR COOLED, didn't even have the advantage of

water

> cooling to keep head temperatures down). > > Needless to say, horsepower is my one big beef with the KLR, and

the one

> thing that can NOT be fixed with farkle . > > -E

[Mike Frey]

> I sure didn't expect it to be slower > than a 350cc 1970's vintage twin that I rode in the past

1970's 350 twins... Yamaha RD comes to mind, and that bike today is still more than capable against anything it's size. It will easily pull away from a KLR in a drag race. The KLR should have no problem keeping up with a Honda 350 twin. We're spoiled by the blistering acceleration of today's bikes, and the KLR disappoints in that role. If the KLR-650 existed in 1974 in the exact form it does today, it probably would have been pronounced "The best Enduro bike you can buy" Anyone ever ride a Suzuki TM-400 or a Yamaha YZ / IT-490? Those bikes (and others), although powerful, were turds compared to the KLR. Having said all of the above, I do wish the KLR had more power.

[Tom Hayslett]

I had a Yamaha DT 400 Enduro. Two stroke single, kick start - could really mess up your knee if you locked your leg while kicking. I did love the immediate throttle response on that bike - but wouldn't want to ride an hour on the freeway. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frey [mailto:mike21b@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:05 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Phases of KLR ownership . . .

> I sure didn't expect it to be slower > than a 350cc 1970's vintage twin that I rode in the past

1970's 350 twins... Yamaha RD comes to mind, and that bike today is still more than capable against anything it's size. It will easily pull away from a KLR in a drag race. The KLR should have no problem keeping up with a Honda 350 twin. We're spoiled by the blistering acceleration of today's bikes, and the KLR disappoints in that role. If the KLR-650 existed in 1974 in the exact form it does today, it probably would have been pronounced "The best Enduro bike you can buy" Anyone ever ride a Suzuki TM-400 or a Yamaha YZ / IT-490? Those bikes (and others), although powerful, were turds compared to the KLR. Having said all of the above, I do wish the KLR had more power. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

[troyzellers]

With all due respect to the Fellowship of the KLR, I thought the 10 phases were spot on. I did my fair share of research on-line, not this group per se, but plenty of lurking on-line. I found alot of bravado, including plenty of talk of whipping sportbikes on asphalt. I found of negative talk, from those possibly suffering from .....shortcomings. And there is alot of good info(doohicky, subframe bolts, cost against BMW,etc). However, it seems like very few dealers let potential buyers ride one prior to purchase. And to call a private seller just to test ride is wrong, without full disclosure. Having said all this, I like the KLR. I haven't grown to love it yet (only 460 miles on the clock so far). But when you're used to some higher performance bikes (CR500R), the first step is a big one. And, I may need to tweak things here or there (jetting), I'd call the Hyundai face-off too close to call, especially with a running start. Troy A19 Castle Rock, CO