transmission and oil usage.

[Mike Torst]

-----Original Message----- From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:02 AM To: Russell Scott Cc: KListeRs Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR Beliefs

On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 17:15, Russell Scott wrote: > "Just The Facts, Ma'am" http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war39.html -- Z DC A5X A12X ---------reply---------------------------------------- That link was a great bunch of fun! Socialists are always so great, at spending my tax dollars. Mike Torst A16 - riding, and riding, and then finding this request for more of my earnings to support those that will not use birth control.

[Zachariah Mully]

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 00:03, mike torst wrote: That link was a great bunch of fun! Socialists are always so great, at spending my tax dollars. Mike Torst A16 - riding, and riding, and then finding this request for more of my earnings to support those that will not use birth control. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's funny. It's the Bush Administration after all that doesn't support the use of condoms as an effective form of birth control. Hmmm... Self fullfilling prophecy? Not to mention that Bush thinks that marriage is the solution for our poor... not education, not healthcare, not job training, but marriage??? Gimme a break. -- Z DC A5X A12X

[denis@teachlinux.com]

Zach, The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high as 31%. Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of a rate of failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these types of numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much money off of these failures? As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the familys there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for them. Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here are to unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the nation. Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the problem, ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You need to fix the root issues. Zach, do you live in NM? Santa Fe? If so lets do a ride some time, Denis A14

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Zachariah Mully wrote: > On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 00:03, mike torst wrote: > > That link was a great bunch of fun! Socialists are always so great, at > spending my tax dollars. > > Mike Torst > A16 - riding, and riding, and then finding this request for more of my > earnings to support those that will not use birth control. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > That's funny. It's the Bush Administration after all that doesn't > support the use of condoms as an effective form of birth control. > Hmmm... Self fullfilling prophecy? Not to mention that Bush thinks that > marriage is the solution for our poor... not education, not healthcare, > not job training, but marriage??? Gimme a break. > >

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... wrote:

> > Zach, > The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high as 31%.

Where does that number come from?

> Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of a rate of > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these types of > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much

money

> off of these failures?

Let me guess. You don't like the work that Planned Parenthood does.

> > As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the familys > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for them. > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here are to > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the nation. > Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the problem, > ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You need to > fix the root issues. >

And just what would those be?

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 11:06, denis@... wrote:

> The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high as 31%. > Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of a rate of > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these types of > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much money > off of these failures?

Right, right, right, I forgot that PP makes a gajillion dollars with their condom conspiracy. I'm sure that all the poor, scared, or poor and scared people who go to PP for help will be happy to know that the tests PP gave them for free(!), as well as the free(!) doctors visit, is really actually making them fabulously rich. Now, I agree that condoms are not 100% effective, in fact, NOBODY makes that claim. But flip it around, at its worst (31% being the number pushed by the Pro-lifers I believe), it's preventing 69% of pregancies and preventing the spread of STDs. And too boot, most of the failures can be directly attributed to human error. So it's not that condom technology is failing us, but that Americans are too stupid to use them properly... And there are plenty of people (oh, like the POPE) who want to keep it that way.

> As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the familys > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for them. > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here are to > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the nation. > Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the problem, > ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You need to > fix the root issues.

Wait a minute, so you mean if I get married, I'll no longer be poor, un{der}educated, unemployed, in poor health, with crippling debt and with little hope for my children or their future? Oh wait, I'll no longer be poor according to the government, because all the sudden I have two incomes, putting me just above the poverty line! Wow! How little did I know that marriage (or lack thereof) was the root of our problems! And BTW, I'll tell the homeless family that lives in front of the J.Edgar Hoover FBI building that any day now things should really turn around for them because they're married. Please don't confuse correlation with causation. Unwed mothers do NOT cause poverty. -- Z

[Bogdan Swider]

>> fix the root issues > And just what would those be?

Roots and berries, nuts and bolts Bogdan

>

[klwheelerjr]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 11:06, denis@t... wrote: > > The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high

as 31%.

> > Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of

a rate of

> > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these

types of

> > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much

money

> > off of these failures? > > Right, right, right, I forgot that PP makes a gajillion dollars with > their condom conspiracy. I'm sure that all the poor, scared, or

poor and

> scared people who go to PP for help will be happy to know that the

tests

> PP gave them for free(!), as well as the free(!) doctors visit, is > really actually making them fabulously rich. > > Now, I agree that condoms are not 100% effective, in fact, NOBODY

makes

> that claim. But flip it around, at its worst (31% being the number > pushed by the Pro-lifers I believe), it's preventing 69% of

pregancies

> and preventing the spread of STDs. And too boot, most of the

failures

> can be directly attributed to human error. So it's not that condom > technology is failing us, but that Americans are too stupid to use

them

> properly... And there are plenty of people (oh, like the POPE) who

want

> to keep it that way. > > > As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the

familys

> > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for

them.

> > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here

are to

> > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the

nation.

> > Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the

problem,

> > ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You

need to

> > fix the root issues. > > Wait a minute, so you mean if I get married, I'll no longer be poor, > un{der}educated, unemployed, in poor health, with crippling debt and > with little hope for my children or their future? Oh wait, I'll no > longer be poor according to the government, because all the sudden I > have two incomes, putting me just above the poverty line! Wow! How > little did I know that marriage (or lack thereof) was the root of

our

> problems! > > And BTW, I'll tell the homeless family that lives in front of the > J.Edgar Hoover FBI building that any day now things should really

turn

> around for them because they're married. > > Please don't confuse correlation with causation. Unwed mothers do

NOT

> cause poverty. > > -- > Z DC > A5X > A12X

"The only thing that breaks more often than a condom is a resolution of abstinence" - source unknown but eloquent. Ken

[denis@teachlinux.com]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Judson D. Jones wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... wrote: > > > > Zach, > > > > The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high as 31%. > > > Where does that number come from?

google, you'll see the results

> > > Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of a rate of > > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these types of > > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much > money > > off of these failures? > > > Let me guess. You don't like the work that Planned Parenthood does.

I don't like the fact the PP is doing "the work" far a profit, has very little top do with anything else. Why do they have so much money if they are a Non-profit? Wonder how long they would continue to do the work if all of a sudden there was no money to be made in it?

> > > > As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the familys > > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for them. > > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here are to > > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the nation. > > Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the problem, > > ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You need to > > fix the root issues. > > > > And just what would those be?

You really dont know what the root problems are? In South America it's there are now jobs that will substain the average worker. Looks to me like they need to make some loacl jobs that allow the local worker to stay at home and make a living. Not look to the US as the answer. This will take 20 to 40 years to fix. As for the other issue. Teaching condoms does not work. If you disagree please provide some proof. Denis

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[Doug Walker]

Thanks for all of the replies. I agree that 4500RPM seems to be the point where the consumption goes up, and above 5000 way up. I understand that there is a problem with the seals that are on the valve stems. Elden Carl has an alternate part number on his website. I need to do my valve clearances so it may be a good time to change the seals. I will try another shift lever, but I may do some investigating under the clutch cover to see if there is a problem, or something to clean up for better shifting. Thanks again, Doug Walker

[Kelly Walsh]

Just nuzzling in on this cage fight..... Actually, one MAIN root cause is Catholicism. I am not trying to start a religion war here, but there are too many people in the world as it is- we don't need help from the church. Yeah, abstinence is a great thing in a perfect world, but as you well know (as a fellow Santa Fean) Catholics tend to bend the rules a little when it comes to following church doctrine. I guarantee you that the number of tattoos is proportional to the number of crucifixes hanging on the walls, or gummed to the dashboard. So if they can ignore the marking of the body thing, and having sex out of wedlock, then why can't they use birth control? Puzzling. Kelly Walsh Santa Fe, NM A17 '81 GPz 550 --- denis@... wrote:

> > > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... > wrote: > > > > > > Zach, > > > > > > > The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In > some reports as high as 31%. > > > > > > Where does that number come from? > > google, you'll see the results > > > > > > Do you want to trust your life to a device that > has this high of a rate of > > > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in > arms over these types of > > > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned > Parenthood makesso much > > money > > > off of these failures? > > > > > > Let me guess. You don't like the work that Planned > Parenthood does. > > I don't like the fact the PP is doing "the work" far > a profit, has very > little top do with anything else. Why do they have > so much money if they > are a Non-profit? Wonder how long they would > continue to do the work if > all of a sudden there was no money to be made in it? > > > > > > > As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed > mothers and the familys > > > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a > better choice for them. > > > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of > the births here are to > > > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst > poverty in the nation. > > > Throwing more money at the problem is not going > to solve the problem, > > > ljust like closing the borders is not going to > make us safer. You need to > > > fix the root issues. > > > > > > > And just what would those be? > > You really dont know what the root problems are? In > South America it's > there are now jobs that will substain the average > worker. Looks to me like > they need to make some loacl jobs that allow the > local worker to stay at > home and make a living. Not look to the US as the > answer. This will take > 20 to 40 years to fix. > > As for the other issue. Teaching condoms does not > work. If you disagree > please provide some proof. > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >