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shirojiro1
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by shirojiro1 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:41 am

I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how you guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt for so many of the KLR group to laud them. For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) the IRC GP110. -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged to wear them out before getting new tires...)

dooden
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by dooden » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:42 am

Your right, but why are you riding a XR650L on the pavement ? The 270's for sure slowed my pavement riding down alot, but soon as they hit the dirt, you have the exact opposite feeling about the OEM tires the bike came with. Depends on your riding I suppose. Dooden A15 Green Ape (Knobbed with 270's)
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "shirojiro1" wrote: > I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. > > Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how you > guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any > second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. > > The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt > for so many of the KLR group to laud them. > > For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > the IRC GP110. > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged > to wear them out before getting new tires...)

James L. Miller Jr.
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by James L. Miller Jr. » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:08 am

I'm not looking to start a flame war, or cause a panic with anyone, but I'm going to have to say it's the rider. I can smoke corners on the 270's. They're not slicks, but they're not THAT bad. It's the transition from center knob to outer knob that gives everyone the willies. Once you learn the transition point from the center knobs to the outer knobs and where/what happens during a corner, the rest is easy. Yeah, that transition is a bit hard to take at first. But, when you realize you're not going to bite pavement in that sweeper, you can rock these tires. And, yeah, they rock off-road as well. If they'd just be of a bit harder compound, that's make up for a lot. But, changing the compound changes the tire. That nice all-round tire now becomes a K750. Of course, I can screw around and take them to the ground, but for an all-round tire, my money's on the 270. I'm running trakmasters, and they corner almost as well. Must be the extra plys in the sidewall? millerized (just my opinion, don't try to cash it without ID) --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "shirojiro1" wrote:
> I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. > > Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how
you
> guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any > second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. > > The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt > for so many of the KLR group to laud them. > > For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > the IRC GP110. > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel
obliged
> to wear them out before getting new tires...)

robert bowman
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by robert bowman » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:08 am

On Thursday 19 August 2004 04:19, shirojiro1 wrote:
> For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > the IRC GP110.
You'll want to steer clear of Dunlop D606's too.

denis@teachlinux.com
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by denis@teachlinux.com » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:03 am

Just put a set on last weekend so I guess I have about 80 miles on them and I think there pretty nice. Have yet to try them off-raod. Have noticed that they now have a slight whine, but other then taht they seem pretty nice. They where a bitch to balance by hand. But finally got them balanceed. I also had a very hard time bgetting them to fully seat on the rim. Had to pump the front up to about 70psi and the back to 45psi. For the first few days the felt funny, I think it may have been due to riding on a set of tires that where balanced, but not real sure. I'm running them at about 34psi. Denis
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, shirojiro1 wrote: > > I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. > > Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how you > guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any > second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. > > The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt > for so many of the KLR group to laud them. > > For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > the IRC GP110. > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged > to wear them out before getting new tires...) > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Jim
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by Jim » Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:09 am

Try the IRC GP-1 next time. Sticks just as well as the GP-110 on the road and the traction off road at speed is much better. Reasonably priced too. --Jim A-15
> For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > the IRC GP110. > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged > to wear them out before getting new tires...)

dooden
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by dooden » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:06 pm

Seemed like after a couple hundred miles they got better, but I also run them around 27~28 psi. Seems to be a happy mix for street/offroad riding without fiddling with a pump. Never really liked airing down tires, fine if going slow, but when you ride agressive offroad they wiggle around too much for me. Leaning the bike is very different feel for me, they seem to automatically want to right the bike back up in corners, perhaps this is why on the road they feel so different hitting the corners, btw these tires slowed my street riding down alot, took some getting used to going slower, but its for the good. Dooden A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... wrote: > > Just put a set on last weekend so I guess I have about 80 miles on them > and I think there pretty nice. Have yet to try them off-raod. Have noticed > that they now have a slight whine, but other then taht they seem pretty > nice. > > They where a bitch to balance by hand. But finally got them balanceed. I > also had a very hard time bgetting them to fully seat on the rim. Had to > pump the front up to about 70psi and the back to 45psi. > > For the first few days the felt funny, I think it may have been due to > riding on a set of tires that where balanced, but not real sure. > > I'm running them at about 34psi. > > Denis > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, shirojiro1 wrote: > > > > > I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. > > > > Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how you > > guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any > > second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. > > > > The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt > > for so many of the KLR group to laud them. > > > > For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > > the IRC GP110. > > > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged > > to wear them out before getting new tires...) > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

denis@teachlinux.com
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by denis@teachlinux.com » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:22 pm

They have slowed me down a bit also. Mainly since I have noticed they don't stick as well as the bald tire I had on the rear before.. 10,500 on my first set of OEM tires.. Didn't have any threads showing, but the nobbies where gone.. Denis
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Dooden wrote: > Seemed like after a couple hundred miles they got better, but I also > run them around 27~28 psi. Seems to be a happy mix for street/offroad > riding without fiddling with a pump. > > Never really liked airing down tires, fine if going slow, but when you > ride agressive offroad they wiggle around too much for me. > > Leaning the bike is very different feel for me, they seem to > automatically want to right the bike back up in corners, perhaps this > is why on the road they feel so different hitting the corners, btw > these tires slowed my street riding down alot, took some getting used > to going slower, but its for the good. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, denis@t... wrote: > > > > Just put a set on last weekend so I guess I have about 80 miles on them > > and I think there pretty nice. Have yet to try them off-raod. Have > noticed > > that they now have a slight whine, but other then taht they seem pretty > > nice. > > > > They where a bitch to balance by hand. But finally got them > balanceed. I > > also had a very hard time bgetting them to fully seat on the rim. > Had to > > pump the front up to about 70psi and the back to 45psi. > > > > For the first few days the felt funny, I think it may have been due to > > riding on a set of tires that where balanced, but not real sure. > > > > I'm running them at about 34psi. > > > > Denis > > > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, shirojiro1 wrote: > > > > > > > > I just tried a set of Kenda K270's on a friend's Honda XR650L. > > > > > > Holy smokes! Talk about scary on the pavement. I don't see how you > > > guys do it. The front end felt like it was going to washout any > > > second, and the back end came around on the mildest of turns. > > > > > > The feedback in turns was awful. These tires must rock in the dirt > > > for so many of the KLR group to laud them. > > > > > > For me and my mostly street intentions, I'll stick with (literally) > > > the IRC GP110. > > > > > > -S (happy to have not bought the Kendas - otherwise I'd feel obliged > > > to wear them out before getting new tires...) > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by kdxkawboy@aol.com » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:14 pm

In a message dated 2004-08-19 8:10:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mah78@... writes:
> > > Try the IRC GP-1 next time. Sticks just as well as the GP-110 on the > road and the traction off road at speed is much better. Reasonably > priced too. > --Jim > A-15 > >
My own preferences run towards the GP1. I'd tried the Kenda first, picked it up at a KTM shop in Reno. The owner told me if I liked it in the dirt but not the road that I should try a GP1. I did like the way the Kenda worked on a KLR in the dirt, but on the street I was able to push it to the point it felt spooky, not really sure what the traction was doing. So I tried the GP1 and loved it. Like our KLRs, its not the best tire for any one thing, but its a very good tire for doing everything. At the same time, if you've never ridden the street on any type of knobby tires it can be a spooky thing. I grew up riding the 1st generation Japans DS bikes and were I lived, in the middle of a National Forest, we all ran Metzeler knobbies. I remember riding home from HS and some friends following me in a car asked how I could ride the bike on the street, my rear wheel was jumping all around. To be honest, I didn't feel any of that, probably because I was just used to it. Before making a call on the Kenda being bad, try taking it easy for awhile so you can get climitized to the different feel on the street. Once you've adapted you might find its not that bad. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

mwl_95623
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kenda 270 - terrifying tire

Post by mwl_95623 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:13 pm

mah78@c... writes:
> > > > Try the IRC GP-1 next time. >
kdxkawboy@a... wrote:
> My own preferences run towards the GP1.
I also Like the GP-1. The Kenda 270 is a copy. My only complaint is the soft sidewalls. Makes for a very cushy ride but I worry a bit that it might come off the rim when I get a flat. Easy tire changes though. I've just about worn out my first set. I've got a new set of Metzler Karoos waiting for Pat's Eastern Sierra ride in September. Next I think I'll try the Dunlop 606's or the Maxxis 6006's. I think you just gotta to try them all and see for yourself. Matt

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