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[Jim]

> reinstall with ONLY the tools in the toolkit or whatever else you are > planning to carry.

I did this and found out that the tool kit does not include a wrench for the front axle. The second time I did this (and after greasing my front axle the first time) I discovered that my one crescent wrench would not remove the nut only spin the axle so now I carry two crescents. Much better to learn these things in your garage at home. --Jim A-15

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/10/04 8:55:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, matteeanne@... writes:

> I carry a can of fix a flat. and a pump. In 33 years > of riding, I have never had a flat, but now with my > KLR i get 60-80 miles into the mountains and I worry. > My brother is a bike Guru and insists that changing a > tire is the worst job u can do, and said he would > rather ride on a flat than try to wrestle off a tire > in the boonies, I trust him.

Much depends on whether you're riding alone or not, if there is another bike or two at least you know that you will not be stranded in a remote area but if you are riding alone I consider being able to do tire repair essential. It seems the odds of having a flat will catch up with you eventually. I had gotten a little complacent about it after having only a couple of flats in 30 years of riding around Baja but on each of my last two trips earlier this year I have had a flat rear that got repaired out in the boonies. I was very glad that I knew how to do it. Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

I live so far out in the sticks, I cant beg anyone to come out here and ride with me, so I ride alone on every trip. I have all the essentials covered as we have all posted them before. I have the tools, but not the knowhow. I have the fix a flat and a pump, and if worst came to worst, I would just ride on the rim and pay the price. I am (knock on wood) sort of blessed, no accidents ever, never ran out of gas, never had a (bike) flat, and I enjoy the lowest insurance rates a human can get 2 cars, 2 bikes, 450 a year full coverage. Anyway, flats. If it comes down to survival, while it would be a rough ride, you could ride on a bare rim I suppose if your life depended on it. Out here in the Olympic Forest, I guess it could.... --- Krgrife@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/04 8:55:01 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > matteeanne@... writes: > > > > I carry a can of fix a flat. and a pump. In 33 > years > > of riding, I have never had a flat, but now with > my > > KLR i get 60-80 miles into the mountains and I > worry. > > My brother is a bike Guru and insists that > changing a > > tire is the worst job u can do, and said he would > > rather ride on a flat than try to wrestle off a > tire > > in the boonies, I trust him. > > Much depends on whether you're riding alone or not, > if there is another bike > or two at least you know that you will not be > stranded in a remote area but if > you are riding alone I consider being able to do > tire repair essential. It > seems the odds of having a flat will catch up with > you eventually. I had > gotten a little complacent about it after having > only a couple of flats in 30 years > of riding around Baja but on each of my last two > trips earlier this year I > have had a flat rear that got repaired out in the > boonies. I was very glad that > I knew how to do it. > Kurt Grife > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >

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[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/11/04 5:39:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, matteeanne@... writes:

> If it comes down to survival, > while it would be a rough ride, you could ride on a > bare rim I suppose if your life depended on it. Out > here in the Olympic Forest, I guess it could.... >

Until the rim bends and spokes break and you have to start walking. Learning to fix a tire is not a big deal and worth the effort especially if you ride alone. Its one of those "just in case" things that are worth knowing even if you never use it. I feel sort of the same way about the CPR and First Aid refresher course I take every year. I've never used it and hope not to but want to be prepared. Kurt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-08-11 8:51:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Krgrife@... writes:

> > Until the rim bends and spokes break and you have to start walking. > Learning > to fix a tire is not a big deal and worth the effort especially if you ride > alone. Its one of those "just in case" things that are worth knowing even > if > you never use it. I feel sort of the same way about the CPR and First Aid > refresher course I take every year. I've never used it and hope not to but > want > to be prepared. > Kurt > >

And there is something if a tradition that says being ready to deal with flat is the best to way to avoid one, the inverse of Murphy's Law, if you are prepared it will never happen. Actually, fixing a flat is so simple that anyone can master it, as long as you don't run Gripsters, but then being that a Gripster pretty much makes its own rim lock you can ride a flat back to civilization. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, kdxkawboy@a... wrote:

> And there is something if a tradition that says being ready to deal

with flat

> is the best to way to avoid one, the inverse of Murphy's Law, if you

are

> prepared it will never happen.

This I can vouch for. In fact, it is in fact. Three-four years ago I had spent hours carefully packing my bike and remembering to not forget anything. Well, I took off and got about twenty miles to Calistoga when I had ralized I'd forgotten my small pot stash. On the way back, in fact as I pulled into my yard, I also remembered my spare masterlink. I packed it in my folding tool kit, and thus prevented any chain mishaps on the entire two week trip into the Franch Church River of No Return Wilderness. It was great, it's still a vivid memory as I sleep at night.

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rsanders30117" wrote:

> Tire maintenance on the road. > > 1. Preventative maintenance, I've up graded to ultra-heavy inner > tubes. The only way these babies are going down is by a puncture & > Slime can handle these beautifully. > > 2. I carry the following: > > A. A good metal barrel bicycle tire pump & that's my total > inflation supply. It takes too many CO2 cartridges to reliably > inflate a tire. Why bother? One good bicycle pump does it all. > > B. Always at least one bottle of Slime. If I'm going on a dual > sport ride, I carry an extra bottle to bail out the unprepared.

This

> stuff works remarkably well. > > C. In my tool pouch I carry: spare stem innards in a pill > container, a valve stem tool & spare stem caps. > > I've had a Slime repaired rear tire hold for thousands of miles

until

> the tire wore out. I then replaced the inner tube along with the > tire. It doesn't get more convenient than that. I replace my own > tires & have done so several times over. I shutter at the thought

of

> trying to do it in the field without my lift & full size tire

irons.

> > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "motorcycle_guy2004" > wrote: > > Calling on the collective talent and intellect of the group... > > > > What do you folks carry with you on trips for tire repair on the > > road -- I'm new to this tires-with-tubes thing (I carry a stop-n-

go

> > kit on my FJR). > > > > tube patches? spare tubes? Tire Irons? etc. > > > > Imagine a trip with 70% street, 30% dirt/gravel as an example,

with

> > somewhat limited cargo space. What's the bare minimum I should

take

> > (besides an "I'm stuck on the road, come rescue me" plan)? > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughtful and creative replies. They > > need not be politically correct. > > > > -Tom > > '00 KLR 650 > > '04 FJR 1300

I like this guys way of thinking. I have long thought about dealing with flats while off roading and thought the best thing to do would be to FIRST do everything you CAN do to prevent a flat. But since I love to race everybody on 2 wheels (and four) when I catch up to them in the twisty mountains or back roads, I have shuddered at all the extra weight I would be fighting on road while having HD tubes and slime in them. Now that I am getting my second set of wheels just for dirt, this is exactly what I am going to do. I will carry 3 steel tire irons (9 inch I think) 2 extra HD tubes, some soapy stuff, duct tape to cover the bearings and a rag to work on, and my handy dandy $10 electric air pump guts that I ripped out of a hand held Cambell Hausfeld compressor. I use the air pump all the time to air back up for the pavement. Plugs into a BMW style plug. But I hope to ride many many years of off road before having to use the tools and extra tubes. I hate trailside repairs that much. I just want to ride while the sun is up. If I do get a flat, I like Pats idea of just throwing in the new tube and get some more riding in and then patching up the old tube in camp. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Alan L Henderson]

>and extra tubes. I hate trailside repairs that much. I just want to >ride while the sun is up. If I do get a flat, I like Pats idea of >just throwing in the new tube and get some more riding in and then >patching up the old tube in camp. >

I rode my bicycle all the time when I was young and had to make tires last well beyond there normal life. Oddly enough I also got used to repairing alot of flats. The one technique I haven't heard mentioned is patching the tube without taking the wheel off the bike. Saves alot of time if the puncture is repairable. I carry the normal stuff: pump, patches, irons,slime etc. When you get a flat look first for the source of the puncture and mark if possible. Lay the bike up against something to lift the wheel off the ground while maintaining stability. Break the bead on the side your working on and unmount the bead in the area of the puncture. Pull the tube out as needed to get to the puncture. Use your patch kit to patch. Stuff tube back into wheel evenly. Carefully remount the bead on that side. Air up and ride away. Make sure you use high quality patches! I repaired a puncture using this technique at Moab in 2000 only to have the self adhesive bicycle patch fail on a rough section about 5 minutes later. Used the can of slime that I also carry to repair this time. I still prefer patches for long term repairs. Don't scrimp on materials. If your going to carry the stuff make sure it is all high quality and you know how to use it. Alan L Henderson A13 Iowa DID I MENTION ONLY BUYING HIGH QUALITY PATCHES?

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