grips, vibes, etc.

[Ron Klimoff]

Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting Walmart's brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of this oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic blend? Thanks, Ron K

[Devon]

If it has friction modifiers (ie it claims improved fuel economy) then it can sometimes make a clutch that is already marginal start slipping. I've heard this but never seen it in practice. I use expensive oil in my air cooled SR500s, since they're harder on oil and only get a change once a year or so. The KLR gets Delvac 1300, or Castrol GTX20w50, or whatever's handy and cheap. Most important thing is that you have enough oil in the motor. Devon RonnyK737@... wrote:

>Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting Walmart's >brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of this >oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic blend? > > >

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

I use Supertech 20W50 in my woodsbeater 'cause the oil doesn't stay in there that long anyway. I use Chevron or Havoline 10W40 dino in my other bikes. Mark http://www.reelrider.com At 3:56 PM -0400 5/25/04, Devon wrote:

>If it has friction modifiers (ie it claims improved fuel economy) then >it can sometimes make a clutch that is already marginal start slipping. >I've heard this but never seen it in practice. > >I use expensive oil in my air cooled SR500s, since they're harder on oil >and only get a change once a year or so. The KLR gets Delvac 1300, or >Castrol GTX20w50, or whatever's handy and cheap. > >Most important thing is that you have enough oil in the motor. > >Devon > >RonnyK737@... wrote: > >>Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting Walmart's >>brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of this >>oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic blend?

[hijklr]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Klimoff" wrote:

> Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting

Walmart's

> brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of

this

> oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic

blend? I've been using Rotella T 15W-40 Heavy Duty Dino ($7/gallon) @ wallyworld the last 7000 miles. No clutch slippage, 55mpg on highway, miniscual drop in sight glass between 2000 mile changes. The zinc & phosphorous numbers are higher than any oil I've seen. There are no friction modifiers in this oil. I have a gallon of Rotella T 5W-40 heavy duty synthetic (no fricion modifiers) on deck for next change (12.88/gallon and same high zinc and phosphorous numbers). Kevin A17

[Mike Torst]

Damn, this oil thing always comes up It is not just the friction modifiers: it is also the reduction of materials in the oil that is at issue. I prefer the JASO MA synthetics after break-in, but then again, I may have made the mistake of reading about the SH oils, and such. (Harhar) Oil threads - how about another thread on grease? Joking - My KLR is in better shape than I am, but maybe, just maybe, my &*#$(@#) ankle will be cleared to ride in short order. In the mean time, I will follow the science and use JASO MA synthetic oil for our wet-clutch shared-oil ride. Mike Torst Las Vegas

> -----Original Message----- > From: Devon [mailto:bigfatgreenbike@...] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:57 PM > To: RonnyK737@... > Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Supertech Oil > > If it has friction modifiers (ie it claims improved fuel economy) then > it can sometimes make a clutch that is already marginal start slipping. > I've heard this but never seen it in practice. > > I use expensive oil in my air cooled SR500s, since they're harder on oil > and only get a change once a year or so. The KLR gets Delvac 1300, or > Castrol GTX20w50, or whatever's handy and cheap. > > Most important thing is that you have enough oil in the motor. > > Devon > > RonnyK737@... wrote: > > >Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting Walmart's > >brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of this > >oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic blend?

[bigfatgreenbike]

lasvegasrider@... wrote

>It is not just the friction modifiers: it is also the reduction of materials >in the oil that is at issue. > >I prefer the JASO MA synthetics after break-in, but then again, I may have >made the mistake of reading about the SH oils, and such. (Harhar) > >Oil threads - how about another thread on grease? > >Joking - My KLR is in better shape than I am, but maybe, just maybe, my >&*#$(@#) ankle will be cleared to ride in short order. > >In the mean time, I will follow the science and use JASO MA synthetic oil >for our wet-clutch shared-oil ride. > >

Nobody disputes that you are acting on very sound theory. The question is, will it make any difference over the expected life of the bike? The "average" rider changing the oil at the recommended intervals, will that shorten the life of the engine? Will someone smash open the case at 50mph on a rock and totally waste all that slow-wearing synthetic oil? -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

[motorbiker65]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, bigfatgreenbike wrote:

> > > lasvegasrider@c... wrote > > >It is not just the friction modifiers: it is also the reduction of

materials

> >in the oil that is at issue. > > > >I prefer the JASO MA synthetics after break-in, but then again, I

may have

> >made the mistake of reading about the SH oils, and such. (Harhar) > > > >Oil threads - how about another thread on grease? > > > >Joking - My KLR is in better shape than I am, but maybe, just

maybe, my

> >&*#$(@#) ankle will be cleared to ride in short order. > > > >In the mean time, I will follow the science and use JASO MA

synthetic oil

> >for our wet-clutch shared-oil ride. > > > > > Nobody disputes that you are acting on very sound theory. The

question

> is, will it make any difference over the expected life of the bike?

The

> "average" rider changing the oil at the recommended intervals, will

that

> shorten the life of the engine? > > Will someone smash open the case at 50mph on a rock and totally

waste

> all that slow-wearing synthetic oil? > > -- > Devon > Brooklyn, NY > > A15-Z '01 KLR650 > '81 SR500 cafe racer > "The truth's not too popular these days....." > > Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

I've ran delvac 1300 in my '04 since I got it in oct '03. The oil would usually turn pretty black after 1K miles. Last change at 3500 miles I put Mobil 1 red cap in it. Now the oil has over 2K on it and it's barely darkened at all. Does this prove that synth is better than dino? I don't know but I do like what's happening.

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 07:29:00PM -0000, Ron Klimoff wrote:

> Hi, I am about to change my oil, and was considering putting Walmart's > brand, Supertech, in my 2002 KLR 650. What do you guys think of this > oil? Is it ok to use, or should I get a synthetic or synthetic blend?

If you're going to Wal-Mart to pick up the oil, just buy the big gallon bottle of Rotella or Delvac or Delo 15W-40 instead. These oils are well suited to use in your bike and are much higher quality than generic car oil (or most name-brand car oil, actually). And they're *cheap*. Thor

[Mike Torst]

Hey, how about a case smashing thread Mike Torst Las Vegas

> -----Original Message----- > From: bigfatgreenbike [mailto:bigfatgreenbike@...] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:54 PM > Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Supertech Oil > > > > lasvegasrider@... wrote > > >It is not just the friction modifiers: it is also the reduction of > materials > >in the oil that is at issue. > > > >I prefer the JASO MA synthetics after break-in, but then again, I may > have > >made the mistake of reading about the SH oils, and such. (Harhar) > > > >Oil threads - how about another thread on grease? > > > >Joking - My KLR is in better shape than I am, but maybe, just maybe, my > >&*#$(@#) ankle will be cleared to ride in short order. > > > >In the mean time, I will follow the science and use JASO MA synthetic oil > >for our wet-clutch shared-oil ride. > > > > > Nobody disputes that you are acting on very sound theory. The question > is, will it make any difference over the expected life of the bike? The > "average" rider changing the oil at the recommended intervals, will that > shorten the life of the engine? > > Will someone smash open the case at 50mph on a rock and totally waste > all that slow-wearing synthetic oil? > > -- > Devon > Brooklyn, NY

[PJ Riss]

The best cheapest cruise is the bungie cord type found here: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oCy2QBIiVz4ivSbYvQNNr7xwEKm4-EkPQ0LqDDpc5C7D8qPdDQn2wHB0nDrGMjYamxDMnLcfxqHayUcIg2tOkE043w/throttlelock02.jpg If the link doesn't work, it's in the files section of the group web page. Vista cruise's work good util you drop your bike in the dirt. Then they snap right off. Paul A16 --- silverartisans wrote:

> I'll try again, I sent this yesterday and it did > not appear. > > I have never removed the grips on any bike, so I > need advice...How do > you do it? Must you destroy the grips? How are they > re-installed? Any > recommends on replacement grips to quell vibes. > > I will probably add lead weights to the bar ends, > will it be > worthwhile to add caulk, silicone, etc. to the > remaining volume of the > bars, Can you add too much lead, what's ideal > length? > > What's the best, cheapest cruise control? > > Thanks for the help, > > Jon > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >

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