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[gill wright]

If you have time there's a great dual sport ride from Choix to Creel. I did it about a year ago, with very little off road experience in about two days. Actually, we made it most of one day and turned around due to dehydration and driving a bike off the side of the mountain (later recovered with the help of some local hombres), then completed it in two days the second time around a day later. If you're going on your own bike and want to make a little loop in Mexico, we had a lot of fun. We stopped in Choix and asked around if we could do it. Most people said no, but one guy said yes and drew us a map, which wasn't to scale at all, but had all of the towns along the way listed in order. Gill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

[redred321]

I turn 59 Sunday. I have a year to get ready for the big one (60). I had it in the back of my mind to jump out of a moving object at 15,000 ft. Then I decided. "How long would that last?" (15,000 ft. @ 120 mps, not long). I have change plans. I want to tour Copper Canyon, in Mexico. I am looking for advice, suggestions, anything but "Don't do it". I will be searching sites to read of other's adventures. If you run accross any rider diaries, I would appreciate sending them on to me.

[hens_p]

Do both! Jumping out of a plane is great fun. Anybody that thinks they would like it should do it once. Besides, it is really cheap and only takes an afternoon. Go for it!

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "redred321" wrote: > I turn 59 Sunday. I have a year to get ready for the big one (60). I > had it in the back of my mind to jump out of a moving object at 15,000 > ft. Then I decided. "How long would that last?" (15,000 ft. @ 120 > mps, not long). I have change plans. I want to tour Copper Canyon, > in Mexico. I am looking for advice, suggestions, anything but "Don't > do it". I will be searching sites to read of other's adventures. If > you run accross any rider diaries, I would appreciate sending them on > to me.

[redufo1]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "redred321" wrote:

> I turn 59 Sunday. I have a year to get ready for the big one

(60). I

> had it in the back of my mind to jump out of a moving object at

15,000

> ft. Then I decided. "How long would that last?" (15,000 ft. @ 120 > mps, not long). I have change plans. I want to tour Copper Canyon, > in Mexico. Its a fun trip,mike and i are planning to leave for

copper canyon fri april 12th AM. Returning by Sun april 21st,we live in odessa,tx,your more than welcome to join in .Dave-A13.

[jesbo@aol.com]

In a message dated 1/19/02 10:00:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, Southlaker@... writes:

> I turn 59 Sunday. I have a year to get ready for the big one (60). I > had it in the back of my mind to jump out of a moving object at 15,000 > ft. Then I decided. "How long would that last?" (15,000 ft. @ 120 > mps, not long). I have change plans. I want to tour Copper Canyon,

You might want to check out www.panchovilla.com. Pancho Villa tours does Copper Canyon as does Rosen Rides @ www.rosensrides.com. I have no connection or personal experience with either, but know folks who have taken tours with one or the other. It's on my list of things to do. As to jumping from moving objects, I was all caught up in Sport Parachuting for a while several years ago and made several exits from both HU-1s (choppers) and Cessna aircraft. Small fixed wing was fun then, you basically stepped out of the aircraft onto the landing gear and held on to the strut until time to let go! What a rush! All student jumps were static line for the first 3-4 times and then on to free fall. But today, as IronJungle pointed out in his message, you can make a jump with almost no training or preparation. Just pay the money, hook up tandem to an experienced jumper, and go out the door. I almost believe the Copper Canyon ride might be a bigger challenge. And, if you're looking for real danger, take the Copper Canyon tour and just drink the local water. Happy Birthday!!! Jess Booth Odenton, MD 60 and counting.

[dannibb1]

For guided tours check out http://www.panchovilla.com/

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "redred321" wrote: > I turn 59 Sunday. I have a year to get ready for the big one (60). I > had it in the back of my mind to jump out of a moving object at 15,000 > ft. Then I decided. "How long would that last?" (15,000 ft. @ 120 > mps, not long). I have change plans. I want to tour Copper Canyon, > in Mexico. I am looking for advice, suggestions, anything but "Don't > do it". I will be searching sites to read of other's adventures. If > you run accross any rider diaries, I would appreciate sending them on > to me.

[Durvy825@aol.com]

Anyone going to Copper Canyon in the next few months? It would be nice to go with a small group of KLR riders who like doing 200 to 400 mile days. The guided tours are nice but I'm too cheap and wouldn't do it alone. Dean (In Dallas)

[TLrydr@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/11/02 8:53:16 PM Central Daylight Time, Durvy825@... writes:

> Anyone going to Copper Canyon in the next few months? It would be nice to > go > with a small group of KLR riders who like doing 200 to 400 mile days. The > guided tours are nice but I'm too cheap and wouldn't do it alone. > > Dean (In Dallas)

Dean, Mike here, Odessa ,Texas How long do you want to stay in Mexico, I am thinking about doing a Oct, Trip. If your as cheap as me 10 days will run you about 400.00 bucks. Let me no , what your plans and times are, Mike williams Rocket Scientist Nuclear Pulverization Lab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[TLrydr@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/14/02 8:33:47 AM Central Daylight Time, Durvy825 writes:

> Hey Mike, I was thinking maybe 5 days or so.

Need one day to make it to Creel, one day to Batopilas, 45 mile road takes about 5 hours taking pictures and all.I found the town of Urique to be a little more fun but a lot harder to get to,,,, One day to Urique , Need a day or to just to kick back and rest once deep into the canyons, Its dry down there so carry your own beer and stuff.. Mike williams Rocket Scientist Nuclear Pulverization Lab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[TLrydr@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/14/02 10:49:13 PM Central Daylight Time, Durvy825 writes:

> Mike, when you go to CC what does your riding consist of, regarding Dirt > vs. Street. I have a KDX so my KLR is set up more toward street at the > moment, IRC 110 tires stock skid pan, etc.

Dean CC is all dirt, Getting there is on some goldwing smooth pavement,,,, IRC GP 110 tires are good for CC, Last time i went i had a Avon Gripster on the rear, MAJOR mistake, But then again we were on some roads that should have been only traveled by DONKEY, My buddy had on Kenda 270, Very good in the dirt, But to wishe wash, on the pavement for me,,, I like and will stick with the IRC GP110 tires, Unless i go on the donky trails again. 270 for me or full blown dirt tires, Screw DOT..... Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]