wiring harness

[Mark J. St.Hilaire, Sr]

> BOTH HAVE ADVANTAGES > LOUD EXAUST INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU WILL BE NOTICED BY CARS. > QUIET EXAUST IS QUIET GOOD FOR EARS AND SNEAKING AROUND

The bad thing about loud exhausts is that they seem to AFFECT THE HEARING. Mark --------------------------------------- KLR650 Motorcycle Website: http://klr6500.tripod.com/

[Chris]

It would also be curious to know what 'weighting' on the db meter is used. There are always 'A' and 'C' weighting on meters. If memory serves, 'A' is for theoretical lab testing of 'pure' tone signals and 'C' is the one that matches human hearing response and is the right one to use for doing OSHA style db pressure readings. I may have A and C reversed but the one that reads hotter on the meter is the wrong one of the two. I'm highly suspect that Ranger Rick or any cop will know the difference and pick the right one.

> > > rsand_@... wrote: > >>I think intentionally installing loud exhaust pipes is rude & crude, >>especially on an off road motorcycles >> >>Some dual sport organized rides check the noise output before >>permitting you to participating. My Y2k KLR650 with totally stock, >>unmodified exhaust just barely meets their limits. >> > That's just nuts. How are they measuring? The KLR stock exhaust is the > quietest thing I've heard short of a K-series BMW. > > What other bikes are people riding through these checks? Is it > possible > their sound meter is picking up mechanical noise from the motor? I've > read that HD originally went to the expense of fitting helical cut > gears > in the transmission (expensive but quieter than straight-cut) so they > could fit a more open exhaust and still meet the overall noise limit. > > I notice that a lot of the two-stroke enduro bikes, with stock pipes > (not road legal but still pretty quiet) have a LOT more gear noise, > like > everything is straight-cut from the primary drive to the countershaft. > But gear noise (and valvetrain noise as well) is high-frequency and > doesn't carry well at all. > > Devon > >

[Blunden, Rob]

I have always run staintune exhausts on all of my bikes, built in Australia and fantastic workmanship, all stainless steel never need repacking. Removable baffle as well. As for Cars hearing you I ride my KTM950 with Acropovics and cars virtually pull out the way 50 metres away. The new KLR with standard pipe and I'm dodging and weaving everything trying to squash me!!!. Staintune goes on the KLR next week!!! Rob - Melbourne KTM950s KLR650 -----Original Message----- From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] Sent: Friday, 19 March 2004 2:42 AM To: blacksheep337 Cc: KLR List Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] LOUD EXAUST

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 10:14, blacksheep337 wrote: > BOTH HAVE ADVANTAGES > LOUD EXAUST INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU WILL BE NOTICED BY CARS. QUIET > EXAUST IS QUIET GOOD FOR EARS AND SNEAKING AROUND You're about to find out just how popular YELLING ON THE LIST makes you. About as popular AS RUNNING A LOUD EXHAUST. Do you honestly believe that cars notice you because of you're loud exhaust? Seriously, I am curious as to what false science you're operating under. Z www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[Blunden, Rob]

Staintune don't have the 04 on their site, but they are making an 04 and will be ready on Tuesday. Got a deal with the bike AUD$500 (US$357) fitted. -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Philippe Granger [mailto:jpgranger@...] Sent: Friday, 19 March 2004 1:07 PM To: Blunden, Rob Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] LOUD EXAUST From Staintune's website they don't have a product dedicated to the KLR650. What are you ordering, and most importantly, how much does it cost?? JP Granger A12 Montreal -----Original Message----- From: Blunden, Rob [mailto:rob.blunden@...] Sent: March 18, 2004 10:37 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] LOUD EXHAUST I have always run staintune exhausts on all of my bikes, built in Australia and fantastic workmanship, all stainless steel never need repacking. Removable baffle as well. As for Cars hearing you I ride my KTM950 with Acropovics and cars virtually pull out the way 50 metres away. The new KLR with standard pipe and I'm dodging and weaving everything trying to squash me!!!. Staintune goes on the KLR next week!!! Rob - Melbourne KTM950s KLR650 -----Original Message----- From: Zachariah Mully [mailto:zmully@...] Sent: Friday, 19 March 2004 2:42 AM To: blacksheep337 Cc: KLR List Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] LOUD EXAUST

On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 10:14, blacksheep337 wrote: > BOTH HAVE ADVANTAGES > LOUD EXAUST INCREASES THE CHANCES YOU WILL BE NOTICED BY CARS. QUIET > EXAUST IS QUIET GOOD FOR EARS AND SNEAKING AROUND You're about to find out just how popular YELLING ON THE LIST makes you. About as popular AS RUNNING A LOUD EXHAUST. Do you honestly believe that cars notice you because of you're loud exhaust? Seriously, I am curious as to what false science you're operating under. Z www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[Thomas J Komjathy]

Hey, I remember the cops busting people for running "Cherry Bomb" mufflers on cars. Some of these bikes are much loader than that, and no stops are done. The cops don't need a meter, they can make a decision based on judgment.. TK

----- Original Message ----- From: "Devon" To: Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: LOUD EXAUST > > > arden646@... wrote: > > >My neighbor, known as "Doofus" to most everyone, > >has a Kawi cruiser with straight pipes and he feels the need to let > >everyone in the neighborhood when he's coming and going with loud > >blaps of the throttle. > > > This whole thing got started because race carbs (Amal GPs et al) didn't > have idle circuits or chokes. You had to keep the engire revving at a > stop or it would stall (since you basically don't stop in a race, this > made the carbs simpler to tune). Particularly warming up the motor. > > So since the "racers" sat there blipping their throttles, people thought > it was just the cool thing to do. Mostly it's just the sign of either: > > 1- an idiot > 2- a person with mechanical problems trying to keep the motor running, > or someone trying to identify the thing they can hear rattling around at > a high rpm. > > The thing that really pisses me off, is there are ALREADY laws about > loud pipes. The police departments just won't bother to buy a friggin' > sound meter and enforce them . So much easier to just ban motorcycles, > from parklands, streets, etc. > > Devon > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

[TLrydr@aol.com]

I am behind , Butt let me jump in here for my IMHO On my Goldwing 1500 se the deer would run at me, across the road, Would stop on the side of the road and stare,, On my loud KLR or sport bike they run like hell. Never towards me always away from me,,,, My 2 cents In a message dated 3/18/2004 10:44:57 AM Central Standard Time, Mlewishome@... writes: << "they're the only ones who think it's cool. Everyone else thinks they're inconsiderate idiots." Everyone else? >>

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-03-19 9:18:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, TLrydr@... writes:

> > > I am behind , Butt let me jump in here for my IMHO > On my Goldwing 1500 se the deer would run at me, across the road, Would > stop > on the side of the road and stare,, On my loud KLR or sport bike they run > like hell. > Never towards me always away from me,,,, My 2 cents > >

And I've come across deer on my racing two stroke where they have just looked up and gone back to cropping. Maybe Sierra Nevada deer are just braver than most, but the last time I had a deer take off on me I was hiking. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-03-19 5:57:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, dskinc@... writes:

> > Hey, I remember the cops busting people for running "Cherry Bomb" mufflers > on cars. Some of these bikes are much loader than that, and no stops are > done. The cops don't need a meter, they can make a decision based on > judgment.. > >

I used to be one of those people. The cherry bombs lasted about a year before you blew the packing out. Getting a fixit ticket was an annual rite of spring. That was the only period of my life when I enjoyed LOUD pipes. My '60 C10 had headers, the '66 VW truck that replaced it had headers, the Pinto that replaced it had headers I could open up for autocrossing and the best was my little SL125 with an unmuffled reverse cone megaphone that made it sound like a racing John Deere. I wasn't interested in saving lives, was just interested in getting my old man so worked up he'd loose it. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don Bittle]

Ditto here. I even have deer in my yard. Must be the pulsations of the thumper but I've never had deer react to any of my bikes like they do to the KLR. Or maybe it's the John Deere Green. don they run

> > like hell.

[Chris Krok]

> > Anyone knows if there's and aftermarket KLR wiring harness to > replace > > the stock one? > > I am looking at a better-quality harness. I am tired of electrical > > problems and low headlight voltage.

The problem isn't usually the wires, it's the connections. The wire runs on a bike are short, so you don't need super-heavy-gages. There is information on calculating the required wire gage for a given circuit at http://www.bigcee.com/reference.html You also can't go too big on a wire as far as electricity is concerned, but make sure it doesn't rub on anything... Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125