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[Bill]

Kawasaki uses, according to my local bearing supply house, a standard sized sealed bearing for it's wheel bearings. I'm curious why Kawasaki removes the inner seals. I left them in. According to the bearing guy, most bearings die prematurely due to over greasing rather than contamination. By the way, the bearings were considerably cheaper at a bearing house. On another subject, I recently found myself without a headlight. I was pleased to learn I could purchase a replacement bulb at Walmart. I love Kawasaki more and more every day. 2001 KLR 650 2000 BMW K1200LT 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 500E (The wife) 1986 Honda 250 Rebel (The kids.)

[Devon Jarvis]

Bearing failure due to OVER-greasing? Can you explain this in more detail? Devon A15 Bill wrote:

> Kawasaki uses, according to my local bearing supply house, a standard > sized sealed bearing for it's wheel bearings. I'm curious why > Kawasaki removes the inner seals. I left them in. According to > the bearing guy, most bearings die prematurely due to over greasing > rather than contamination. By the way, the bearings were > considerably cheaper at a bearing house. > > On another subject, I recently found myself without a headlight. I > was pleased to learn I could purchase a replacement bulb at > Walmart. I love Kawasaki more and more every day. > > 2001 KLR 650 > 2000 BMW K1200LT > 1992 Kawasaki Vulcan 500E (The wife) > 1986 Honda 250 Rebel (The kids.) > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[killerklr650@aol.com]

In a message dated 11/6/2001 8:07:56 PM Central Standard Time, jarvisd@... writes:

> Bearing failure due to OVER-greasing? > Can you explain this in more detail?

Unfortunately, I've black balled myself into the bearing industry. Its kind of like a Roach Motel, you can check in, but you can't check out. So I'll give your question a shot. Over-greasing is most common in a pillow block style bearing, where someone has easy access to the zerk fitting. There are specific fill rates and capacities for bearings given there size and speed. By applying an excess amount of grease into a bearing, you begin to stop rolling motion and begin skidding. Also, excess grease causes overheating of a bearing, which is directly related to the skidding of the elements. Old school maintenance personnel would feel the bearing, the bearing is hot, so they'd pump a little grease in, bearing fails from over-greasing, they call it a POS. In a radial ball wheel bearing that really isn't an issue. "The Factory" puts in the correct fill of grease, you put the bearing in, and it normally fails from improper installation. We'll talk about installation in the next installment of bearing basics 101, free to anyone desperate enough to listen Darrick (wishing he'd become a teacher like Mom said) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Lyon]

Darrick, you wouldn't happen to be related to El Krokko would you ? :>

> Over-greasing is most common in a pillow block > style bearing, where someone > has easy access to the zerk fitting. There are > specific fill rates and > capacities for bearings given there size and speed. > By applying an excess > amount of grease into a bearing, you begin to stop > rolling motion and begin > skidding. Also, excess grease causes overheating of > a bearing, which is > directly related to the skidding of the elements. > Old school maintenance > personnel would feel the bearing, the bearing is > hot, so they'd pump a little > grease in, bearing fails from over-greasing, they > call it a POS. In a radial > ball wheel bearing that really isn't an issue. "The > Factory" puts in the > correct fill of grease, you put the bearing in, and > it normally fails from > improper installation. We'll talk about installation > in the next installment > of bearing basics 101, free to anyone desperate > enough to listen > > Darrick

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[Devon Jarvis]

As far as I ever knew, you just leave the bearing in the freezer overnight, then find a socket that fits against the outer race, and tap them in. You can heat the wheel a little also if it's stubborn, the thermal expansion and contraction will sometimes buy you the extra .001" to make it easy. And you can also use a dead-blow hammer as long as you don't skew the bearing while driving it in. How do you do it? Devon killerklr650@... wrote:

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> In a radial > ball wheel bearing that really isn't an issue. "The Factory" puts in the > correct fill of grease, you put the bearing in, and it normally fails from > improper installation. We'll talk about installation in the next installment > of bearing basics 101, free to anyone desperate enough to listen > > Darrick > (wishing he'd become a teacher like Mom said) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Duvall Ed]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., killerklr650@a... wrote:

> We'll talk about installation in the next installment > of bearing basics 101, free to anyone desperate enough to listen > > Darrick > (wishing he'd become a teacher like Mom said)

I'm desperate enough to listen. I'm actually looking forward to it. Ed BearingChallenged, WA

[Ted Palmer]

Devon Jarvis wrote: [wheel bearing insertion technique]

> How do you do it?

I make simple bearing drifts out of old bearings of the same size as the intended target. I use an angle grinder to cut a slot in the bearing outer race and rip out the balls and inner bits. Slotting the outer race means you can get the damn thing out again with minimum fuss. It works for tapered and ball bearings. Mister_T Melbourne Australia

[Durvy825@aol.com]

I think this site has bearings and maybe a source for those expensive swing arm seals. My computer is to old and short of hardrive space to download the catalog so I'm not sure http://iec.skf.com/ Dean

[James L. Miller Jr.]

Finally! Back in the saddle again. I got the OK from the therapist last week, but waited until today to get the OK from the Doctor. I CAN RIDE AGAIN!!! He recommended I wait a few more weeks before getting the heroics back in the presentation, but I can ride. He WASN'T impressed that I rode TO the appointment, but he didn't indicate he was going to cut off the arm this time. Back!!! Just in time. I've got a few weeks to get ready for the ride to Laconia on the 6th to meet Steve Pye and group! Man, so much to do, so little time. The 120 miles today gave me some things to think about. Like how much fun I'll be allowed to have without the wife going!!! YEEHAW!! millerized (Happy, who me??)(OK, yeah, I rode last week, but only to and from work, 7mi)

[martin polach]

Does any one have the bearing part numbers for the rear wheel handy? cheers Martin Polach