who needs them anyway? (was nklr: crappy dealers)

[klr650nut]

Yesterday i got past the 600 mile mark just before I hit a long tight twisty mountain stretch here in Southern New Mexico. Great timing and fun.Left my friebd abnd his R6 behind. Today came the 1st service. @ filters, oil and man does it take a long time to get the oil into the frame tube?! I new the lower filter was going to be fun but I did manage to get it all back together and it seems to all be leak free. Questions, are there alternate filters rather that getting gouged by KTM and what tips are out there to help with my valve check. Thanks

[Devon Jarvis]

I helped out a bit when the Brooklyn Bum did the oil and filter(s!) on his KTM 640. We tried a few different things to fill the frame tube, none of them very successful. Eventually we just used brute force to squeeze the recommended amount in with an oil bottle and a hose. It took a long time. A few suggestions- re-use an old gear oil can with the tapered tip, with a hose on it. Stick a little WD-40 injector tube into the frame filler hole along with the hose for the oil, so air can escape. Heat the oil as hot as you could stand on your bare skin, so it flows easier. Good luck. Have you adjusted your valves yet? Devon klr650nut wrote:

> Yesterday i got past the 600 mile mark just before I hit a long tight > twisty mountain stretch here in Southern New Mexico. Great timing > and fun.Left my friebd abnd his R6 behind. Today came the 1st service. > @ filters, oil and man does it take a long time to get the oil into > the frame tube?! I new the lower filter was going to be fun but I did > manage to get it all back together and it seems to all be leak free. > Questions, are there alternate filters rather that getting gouged by > KTM and what tips are out there to help with my valve check. Thanks > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[hens_p]

If you have a KLR that will out gun an R6 I would not adjust anything.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "klr650nut" wrote: > Left my friebd abnd his R6 behind.

[Christopher Forrest Elledge]

===Orig Mess=== From: "West Hovland" I agree with "most" sentiments about local dealers... they leave a lot to be desired in some cases. I still try to buy from the good ( OK) ones. For those of you who won't support the local dealers, I invite you to try on helmets at your online store and take virtual test drives at Kawasaki.com etc... Without a local shop we will have to wait for the Cycle World show to come around before we can even touch the new models. Then order one through the catalog and wait for the new bike to show up on my door step. Damn...wrong color... guess I'll box it up and send it back. Off my soapbox, West ===End Mess=== West, A well deserved venting indeed! You bring up a point; one that some may forget, and some may just assume... It's not the dealer *concept* that's protested, it's the fact that many of them are operated so poorly on one basis or another (pricing, service, attitude, etc.) I live in an area that has *one* franchise dealer. The next closest of the Big Jap Four dealers is 80 miles away (although a new Honda dealer is/ has just opened only 40 miles away. Whoo Who.) On a good day, my dealer is "OK" at best. My dealer couldn't pronounce "test ride" even if you showed him a cashier's check for MSRP. I may "use" the local dealership; that is, play touchie feelie with the new meat, try on helmets and then order online, etc. It is a rare day that I leave any cash behind. So, I won't "support the local dealers". I think it's a bad idea. Why? Simple market based economics. If I were to support him, he'd think it's acceptable to be just an "OK" dealer. Instead, if business were to drop off, (assuming he's an intelligent businessman) hopefully he'd do a little research to determine why, and correct the problem. So for now, I buy from my dealer's only competition (the internet) and get product in the same time (my dealer can't pronounce "stockroom", either) and much reduced cost with no attitude. In the worst case scenario, which you elude to, the local dealer goes under. So what? In our economic system, that's not the end of the story. Either this was a market correction in an area that has multiple dealers that can be adequately served by the remaining, better dealers. Or, if the local dealer was the only dealer (like my town), there is now a business need and unfulfilled demand. Some smart motorcyclist entrepreneur will erect a new dealership and be mindful of the fate of the original. To their credit, I'll bet a dealership would be hard to staff, especially parts/ sales/ and service "manager" (not the guys actually doing the wrenching). Would you want to work at/ for your local dealer? Now, remember that dealerships are open on Saturdays. Some are open on Sundays, I'm told. And, no matter what day of the week it is, people are zooming in and out on their bikes all day in front of you, but you're still there. Oh, and the pay is likely to be crap. Do you still want to work at/ for your local dealer? Chris Elledge Roanoke, VA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/