non o-ring vs o-ring chain

[Mark Wilson]

I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or without??? Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the extra $? Thanks, MotorMark

[EstopG@netscape.net]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote:

> I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. > My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or

without???

> Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the

extra $?

> > Thanks, > MotorMark

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, Mark, get the collar. With it, you feel the warmth all the way up to the base of your helmet. With it zipped up,it also gives good wind protection high on your neck. I got the thermostat, but I stopped using it. The on/off cycling on the one I got 10-12 yrs. ago was warm-cold-warm-cold. If it's cold enough for the electrics it doesn't get too warm for me. I suggest that you order one without and then decide if you need one-- you can always order one later. I believe that they have improved the stats since I got mine. Widders a good product,it's tough,and it packs very small. I have mine with me always-I HATE riding cold! You will never be sorry for using electrics! Gary in MI

[jlabate@dakotacom.net]

MM, I have used for several years a Widder vest with a collar and the electronic thermostat. I find the collar to be uncomfortable - too tight a fit around the neck when trying to button up my jacket over it. I would prefer collarless. And the thermostat - it works fine but I do not think it is worth the expense and a simple on/off switch - that I ahave also used - would suit me fine.

> I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. > My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or without??? > Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the extra $? > > Thanks, > MotorMark

[Steve Green]

My skinny necked, cold blooded, wife loves hers with the collar. Me and my stubby fat neck found the collar to restrict my neck movement while riding. Made it harder to look both ways at intersections and thus more dangerous. I now have a collarless Widder and like it better. But unfortunately the collarless vest has no pockets to store the cord! Buy it tight for better heat transfer. Steve G

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote: > I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. > My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or without??? > Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the extra $? > > Thanks, > MotorMark

[Steve Green]

Oh yeah, screw the thermostat. Just turn it on and off with the switch as needed. I tried the thermo and found it to be unneeded compexity.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote: > I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. > My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or without??? > Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the extra $? > > Thanks, > MotorMark

[twowheelwandering@yahoo.com.au]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Steve Green" wrote:

> Oh yeah, screw the thermostat. Just turn it on and off with the > switch as needed. I tried the thermo and found it to be unneeded > compexity. >

Totally disagree. If you use your vest in moderately cold weather, you'll be turning it off and on every 10 miles, its a pain in the ass. If you're running other accessories, an electronic thermostat will keep your draw down. Rich

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote: > > I am thinking about ordering a Widder electric vest. > > My question to the list is, which is better, with the collar or > without??? > > Has anybody here tried the electronic thermostat?? Is it worth the > extra $? > > > > Thanks, > > MotorMark

[EstopG@netscape.net]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Steve Green" wrote:

> My skinny necked, cold blooded, wife loves hers with the collar. > > Me and my stubby fat neck found the collar to restrict my neck > movement while riding. Made it harder to look both ways at > intersections and thus more dangerous.

> Buy it tight for better heat transfer. > > Steve G

In my earlier post I didn't mention that, I also have a skinny neck. If my neck was any larger, I too would probably find it uncomfortable and restrictive. I don't like the old style thermostat, but I might look into the new electronic one. Yes, buy it tight. Gary in MI

[whalenwp@hotmail.com]

When I purchased the set of tires from a lister to be able to swap out my tires I also recieved a high quailty Non O-Ring Chain. My question is that everything I have read talks about using a O-Ring Chain with the KLR. Can I or should I use the Non O-Ring Chain and if I do is there some special care or anything else I should know about it. Thanks, Bill "SandShark" Central Florida 92 KLR-650 A6