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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Mark Wilson » Sun Jul 23, 2000 11:22 pm

> I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is the > Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact that it > is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature except a > 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the same-ish > price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? > > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html > > Karl
Get an Emap, they are pretty cool. Mark

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by bdog » Mon Jul 24, 2000 5:07 pm

nklr I have been using an e-trex for a couple of months, I'm impressed with it over older (lower tech.) models I've owned. The key, I'm told, is it can track multiple sat's at once. ( This is different than "parallel" spec. that is often quoted.) The unit is fast to acquire and once tracking you can't shake it on the trail. Features: compass, speed, elevation, adv. speed,top speed, heading, bearing.... trips and multi stage legs. Pluses: cheap ($119.00us) bat. life, small, simple Minus: no map overlay, adapter required for ant. or 12v. bdog@...
----- Original Message ----- Subject: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is the > Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact that it > is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature except a > 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the same-ish > price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? > > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html > > Karl > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BTW: Did you buy that new car yet? > If not, check this site out. > They're called CarsDirect.com and it's a pretty sweet way to buy a car. > http://click.egroups.com/1/6847/6/_/911801/_/964412080/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

Alan L Henderson
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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Alan L Henderson » Mon Jul 24, 2000 5:55 pm

At 12:20 AM 7/24/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> > >> I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is the >> Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact that it >> is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature except a >> 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the same-ish >> price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? >> >> http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html >> >> Karl > > >Get an Emap, they are pretty cool. > >Mark >
I have been looking at the etrex and find it quite attractive. It is a good hundred dollars cheaper than the emap, smaller and water resistant-the emap isn't. I was planning on using it on the bike along with good maps and a conventional compass. It can be connected to a lap top or PDA for use in the car complete with maps and speech depending how your computer is equipped and the software you are running. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa no GPS yet

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by bmgecko » Mon Jul 24, 2000 9:33 pm

I thought all GPS units tracked multiple satellites... I didn't go too far in school with math, but I thought GPS used a "trigonometric" (is that a word?) process to calculate lat, long, speed, heading and the like. Chris Astier
----- Original Message ----- From: "bdog" To: ">" DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > nklr > I have been using an e-trex for a couple of months, I'm impressed with it > over older (lower tech.) models I've owned. > The key, I'm told, is it can track multiple sat's at once. ( This is > different than "parallel" spec. that is often quoted.) The unit is fast to > acquire and once tracking you can't shake it on the trail. Features: > compass, speed, elevation, adv. speed,top speed, heading, bearing.... trips > and multi stage legs. Pluses: cheap ($119.00us) bat. life, small, simple > Minus: no map overlay, > adapter required for ant. or 12v. > > bdog@... > ----- Original Message ----- > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > > > > I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is the > > Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact that it > > is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature except a > > 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the same-ish > > price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? > > > > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html > > > > Karl > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > BTW: Did you buy that new car yet? > > If not, check this site out. > > They're called CarsDirect.com and it's a pretty sweet way to buy a car. > > http://click.egroups.com/1/6847/6/_/911801/_/964412080/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! > Conference in the whole family on the same call. > Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5476/6/_/911801/_/964476470/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Rev. Chuck » Mon Jul 24, 2000 9:53 pm

>I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is the >Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact that it >is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature except a >'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the same-ish >price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? > >http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html
I just started using my eTrex, I have been using it in the car as we travel about, not on the bike yet though. I can t say how the vibration would affect it. I find it really easy to use, it is very accurate in measuring speed and distance (aligns with the speedo in the car). It "locates" me in about 10 seconds from system on. I think the map function would not really be flexible, as many maps would be required to be dynamic... Just a thought. I expect to use the eTrex with a map and compass anyway. --- Rev. Chuck :^)>+ A13 http://klr650.50megs.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Rev. Chuck » Mon Jul 24, 2000 10:49 pm

>How about a Garmin GPS 12XL? It runs about $260. We have one at >work that tends to get pretty flogged and never have any probs with >it. FWIW, all Canadian military Search and Rescue personnel have >been issued them. 12 channel parallel, 500 waypoints, backtrack, >24hr battery life, etc. With a cable, you can even upgrade the >software from Garmin. Check them out at http://garmin.com/. If >you're interested, I believe Cycoactive sells mounts for the 12XL as >well. >
eTrex does *about* the same without map display for about 1/2 the price and is water proof to 1 meter for 30 minutes. I guess it will take the rain ok. eTrex has 500 waypoints, backtrack, 22 hour battery life, upgrade-able software from Garmin, 12 channel parallel tracking, altitude (via 4th satellite, not pressure like the eTrex Summit). But whatever you choose, remember you do not get the best functionality if you buy the lowest cost in the line, nor do you get the best for the highest cost. Get what YOU need, not what you are sold... --- Rev. Chuck :^)>+ A13 http://klr650.50megs.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications - http://comm.lycos.com

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Tom Myers » Tue Jul 25, 2000 12:32 am

>I thought all GPS units tracked multiple satellites...
Yes they do. Older ones can 'listen' to one at a time, one per second. Newer models (parallel) listen to up to 12 satellites simultaneously. Garmins, for example have a 386 chip inside to process all this information.
>I didn't go too >far in school with math, but I thought GPS used a "trigonometric" (is >that a word?) process to calculate lat, long, speed, heading and the >like.
All the satellites in the GPS constellation are broadcasting "atomic time" (very, very accurate). The GPS then compares the various times it receives. Some satellites are farther than others, due to the speed of the radio transmission, the time it takes for the radio signal to arrive from the satellite varies in direct relation to the distance. The GPS uses its "state of the art" 386 chip to calculate (using trigonometry, no doubt) your position. Simple, huh? And last May the gov'ment gave us one more digit! Not the finger. One more digit increased the accuracy of normal GPSs to about 25 feet (ten times down from 250 feet). They were fun before. Now they rock! Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | website: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by bdog » Tue Jul 25, 2000 5:20 pm

I'm just a user (not an expert) but I have read the older 12 sat parallel units only followed 4 sats at one time... but they could do a total of twelve.... ( back and forth ) The e-trex (and others I'm sure) now will do 12 together ... I just know the newer units are far superior.. I stuff mine in the map pocket of the tank bag and it works perfect! : -) bdog@...
----- Original Message ----- From: bmgecko To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > I thought all GPS units tracked multiple satellites... I didn't go too > far in school with math, but I thought GPS used a "trigonometric" (is > that a word?) process to calculate lat, long, speed, heading and the > like. > > Chris Astier > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdog" > To: ">" DSN_klr650@egroups.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 8:01 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > > > > nklr > > I have been using an e-trex for a couple of months, I'm impressed > with it > > over older (lower tech.) models I've owned. > > The key, I'm told, is it can track multiple sat's at once. ( This is > > different than "parallel" spec. that is often quoted.) The unit is > fast to > > acquire and once tracking you can't shake it on the trail. Features: > > compass, speed, elevation, adv. speed,top speed, heading, bearing.... > trips > > and multi stage legs. Pluses: cheap ($119.00us) bat. life, small, > simple > > Minus: no map overlay, > > adapter required for ant. or 12v. > > > > bdog@... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > > > > > > > I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is > the > > > Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact > that it > > > is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature > except a > > > 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the > same-ish > > > price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? > > > > > > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html > > > > > > Karl > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > BTW: Did you buy that new car yet? > > > If not, check this site out. > > > They're called CarsDirect.com and it's a pretty sweet way to buy a > car. > > > http://click.egroups.com/1/6847/6/_/911801/_/964412080/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! > > Conference in the whole family on the same call. > > Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below. > > http://click.egroups.com/1/5476/6/_/911801/_/964476470/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: > http://click.egroups.com/1/7075/6/_/911801/_/964492401/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

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i got my new helmet

Post by The Squasher » Tue Jul 25, 2000 5:28 pm

I got my new helmet today. It's the top of the line ARAI RX-7RR4 full face in white. I got it from a place on the internet called "The Helmet Shop" They are located in Daytona Florida. They were the cheapest I could find. About $100.00 less then anyone else. I paid $428.00 plus $8.00 shipping. It took about 5 working days to get to California. If your looking for a good price on a helmet, check them out. Bad thing is you need to know your size because they charge a return fee if you need to exchange it for a different size. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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[dsn_klr650] gps - egtrex?

Post by Tom Myers » Tue Jul 25, 2000 5:59 pm

The 12 channel parallel receivers could always track 12 if there were 12 'visible' (but there never are). You need a minimum of four to initialize, and can get by with three after that but four is the more optimum minimun qty. Three spread out as far as possible is best. Tom
>I'm just a user (not an expert) but I have read the older 12 sat parallel >units only followed 4 sats at one time... but they could do a total of >twelve.... ( back and forth ) The e-trex (and others I'm sure) now will >do 12 together ... I just know the newer units are far superior.. I >stuff mine in the map pocket of the tank bag and it works perfect! : -) > > bdog@... >----- Original Message ----- >From: bmgecko >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 6:34 PM >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? > > >> I thought all GPS units tracked multiple satellites... I didn't go too >> far in school with math, but I thought GPS used a "trigonometric" (is >> that a word?) process to calculate lat, long, speed, heading and the >> like. >> >> Chris Astier >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bdog" >> To: ">" DSN_klr650@egroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 8:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? >> >> >> > nklr >> > I have been using an e-trex for a couple of months, I'm impressed >> with it >> > over older (lower tech.) models I've owned. >> > The key, I'm told, is it can track multiple sat's at once. ( This is >> > different than "parallel" spec. that is often quoted.) The unit is >> fast to >> > acquire and once tracking you can't shake it on the trail. Features: >> > compass, speed, elevation, adv. speed,top speed, heading, bearing.... >> trips >> > and multi stage legs. Pluses: cheap ($119.00us) bat. life, small, >> simple >> > Minus: no map overlay, >> > adapter required for ant. or 12v. >> > >> > bdog@... >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > Subject: [DSN_klr650] GPS - eGTrex? >> > >> > >> > > I'm looking at getting a GPS and the one that has caught my eye is >> the >> > > Garmin eTrex. Anyone else on the list using one? I like the fact >> that it >> > > is pretty small and light. Seems to have every popular feature >> except a >> > > 'map' display. Any other recommendations on a decent GPS in the >> same-ish >> > > price range (bout $200 CDN or so)? >> > > >> > > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrex/spec.html >> > > >> > > Karl >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >> http://www.hotmail.com >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > > BTW: Did you buy that new car yet? >> > > If not, check this site out. >> > > They're called CarsDirect.com and it's a pretty sweet way to buy a >> car. >> > > http://click.egroups.com/1/6847/6/_/911801/_/964412080/ >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > > >> > > Visit the KLR650 archives at >> > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >> > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >> > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! >> > > >> > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! >> > Conference in the whole family on the same call. >> > Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below. >> > http://click.egroups.com/1/5476/6/_/911801/_/964476470/ >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > >> > Visit the KLR650 archives at >> > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >> > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >> > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > >> > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: >> http://click.egroups.com/1/7075/6/_/911801/_/964492401/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Visit the KLR650 archives at >> http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >> Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >> Let's keep this list SPAM free! >> >> Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> >> > > > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >Let's keep this list SPAM free! > >Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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