"weird problem #2" (long)

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Skip Faulkner
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[dsn_klr650] fork brace

Post by Skip Faulkner » Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:09 am

To add a little to the fork brace talk, I tested a set for Tim on my way back from Moab. With a heavily loaded KLR and a thousand miles of averaging 75mph, the difference in stability was very impressive. With the overly laden subframe, I sometimes get a little shimmy in crosswinds or grooved asphalt at high speeds, not this trip! They really firmed the front end up and reduced the rear shimmy. I`m sold! Skip

Skip Faulkner
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[dsn_klr650] fork brace

Post by Skip Faulkner » Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:15 am

> > Looks beautiful, but like Bill was mentioning... How does it account > >for the slight variances in the distances between the fork tubes? The > >attachment points look "fixed" as opposed to adjustable. I realize this > >distance variable will be minute - and maybe not enough to make a > >difference - but in theory, any side-ways pressure would cause stiction > >would it not? > > > > Having said that... it is a work of art and if it works as designed > >that's awesome. > > > > Arne > >
They are adjustable. The night before I left Moab, Tim and I fitted mine on and I was surprised to see that they were slotted to allow for variations in fork spacing. They worked very well on my test, now for the off-road trials. I`m betting they do well based on Gino`s results. Skip

Dash Weeks
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[dsn_klr650] fork brace

Post by Dash Weeks » Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:25 am

At 05:40 AM 6/15/2000 -0400, cloudhid@... wrote:
> > Looks beautiful, but like Bill was mentioning... How does it account > >for the slight variances in the distances between the fork tubes? The > >attachment points look "fixed" as opposed to adjustable. I realize this > >distance variable will be minute - and maybe not enough to make a > >difference - but in theory, any side-ways pressure would cause stiction > >would it not? > > > > Having said that... it is a work of art and if it works as designed > >that's awesome. > > > > Arne > > > Tim's money back guarantee and Gino's initial input is enough > to make it worth a try. But I love to fan the theory volleys. > Here it is on the klr after a week's worth of Moab trails. > > Redondo Ron
Very Nice! Much more impressive than the proto, on Tim's page. I can definitely see the $10K in tooling. How much do the forks actually vary through the travel? It almost looks like (if you hold your tongue out and Squint) that the counter bored holes on top are slotted, ah yes, zoom in and indeed they are. Ok so that's solved. But why have the spacer threaded to accept 8 rather than 4 mounting bolts. I might have just kept the spacer a through hole and threaded the holes on the fork clamps. Nice touch on the fork boot mounting lip. Do they come in OD Green? What is the real price from Tim? LaterZ Dash

Denzfeat@aol.com
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[dsn_klr650] fork brace

Post by Denzfeat@aol.com » Thu Jun 15, 2000 2:41 pm

Dash writes: << How do you go about mounting the, say Telefix brace? >> I've mounted several brand-name fork braces (Telefix, Screamin' Eagle, Super Brace, etc.) to bikes for hack-pulling purposes. No big deal, just follow instructions for installation, don't tighten down brace mounting bolts until front forks are pumped up and down a few times to make sure everything's free and working normally. Sometimes tweaking the fender is in order for clearance, not an issue with high-mounted dirt fenders, sometimes fork gaiters have to be raised. A fork brace would be a good place to hang a street-type, close-fitting front fender for even greater high-speed stability. Pete the Stabilized Streak

Dash Weeks
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[dsn_klr650] fork brace

Post by Dash Weeks » Thu Jun 15, 2000 3:13 pm

At 03:41 PM 6/15/2000 -0400, Denzfeat@... wrote:
>Dash writes: >> > > I've mounted several brand-name fork braces (Telefix, Screamin' Eagle, >Super Brace, etc.) to bikes for hack-pulling purposes. > No big deal, just follow instructions for installation, don't tighten >down brace mounting bolts until front forks are pumped up and down a few >times to make sure everything's free and working normally. > Sometimes tweaking the fender is in order for clearance, not an issue >with high-mounted dirt fenders, sometimes fork gaiters have to be raised. > A fork brace would be a good place to hang a street-type, close-fitting >front fender for even greater high-speed stability. > >Pete the Stabilized Streak
Thanks Pete, I didn't know there were so many out there. Are all these brands for the KLR? I checked out Daryl's BMW with a Telefix on it. I don't like the design, and he says he doesn't think it works all that great. ??? The cost of the Happy Trails K9 is $198. While I usually don't worry about price for a good performance upgrade, that is out of my league, today at least. What I was looking for is the instructions from other manufacturers to find out what to watch out for. Perhaps I'll get around to making one myself, and having not ever installed one, I just wanted a plan of attack. LaterZ Dash

Steve Anderson
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"weird problem #2" (long)

Post by Steve Anderson » Tue Jun 20, 2000 7:43 pm

> > As counter-intuitive as it may seem, icing is possible under > conditions as high as 60 degrees F - I've seen it first-person > back when cars were carbureted (practically ancient history now). > Maybe that physics professor lurking out there can explain the > dynamics of the Venturi effect
I ain't any kind of professor let alone a physics professor unless all my professing makes me a professor;-], but carb icing is pretty straightforward, at least that's what they drilled into me during aircraft pilot training. The venturi effect lowers the pressure, which pretty much proportionally lowers the temperature. Additionally, if not more important, is that the fuel vaporizing (boiling) also cools the air appreciably. If the walls of the venturi, where all this cooling is occuring gets below freezing, than the moisture in the air can condense and freeze. It generally will happen in a narrow range of temperature/humidity/throttle/power settings. Some carbs are completely immune. I'm not comfortable speculating on whether this is causing any of these *wierd problems* however.

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