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Walt
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Post by Walt » Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:46 am

> still need to drill my slide, but will get there sooner or later. > > Don't do it Ape Man !! Can't be undone. Will cut your mpg by a few with > not > much power benefits. Others have regretted it. > > Bogdan > >
The hole can be filled with epoxy and re-drilled should you wish to go back. If you want to get fancy the slide could be drilled and tapped to 1/8" NPT so an aluminum Allen-head plug drilled to you size of preference can used. An assortment drilled to various sizes can be utilized if you are a tuning freak. Walt A14 "War Horse" (drilled with no regrets)

Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:58 am

> > The hole can be filled with epoxy and re-drilled should you wish to go back.
My machine shop guy told me that no epoxy works well around gasoline. I did plug a leaky auto gas tank once. Forgot what I used.
> If you want to get fancy the slide could be drilled and tapped to 1/8" NPT > so an aluminum Allen-head plug drilled to you size of preference can used.
Now that sounds doable and not that difficult. Bogdan, who still thinks Dooden should leave his slide alone.

dooden
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Post by dooden » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:45 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote:
> still need to drill my slide, but will get there sooner or later. > > Don't do it Ape Man !! Can't be undone. Will cut your mpg by a few
with not
> much power benefits. Others have regretted it. > > Bogdan
A few MPG ? Like that matters on a bike with 14/45 sprockets. But am curious what "not much power benefits" really means, I really cant see it giving more power, mostly thinking a crisper throttle response, well actually more like a throttle response is what I am looking for since the carb seems really slow from twist to Yeeeeeeeeeehaw. I know the slower response is easy to control, but times when you need power like 1.5 seconds ago, a crisp respose would be nice without slipping the clutch to get RPM's up when riding places off the trails and over the hill and through the woods. So what is the group idea on this ? Drill the slide or not and what positive/negative effect ? Dooden A15 Green Ape (hibernating)

squasher_1
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Post by squasher_1 » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:48 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Walt" wrote:
> > still need to drill my slide, but will get there sooner or later. > > > > Don't do it Ape Man !! Can't be undone. Will cut your mpg by a
few with
> > not > > much power benefits. Others have regretted it. > > > > Bogdan > > > > > > The hole can be filled with epoxy and re-drilled should you wish to
go back.
> If you want to get fancy the slide could be drilled and tapped to
1/8" NPT
> so an aluminum Allen-head plug drilled to you size of preference
can used.
> An assortment drilled to various sizes can be utilized if you are a
tuning
> freak. > > Walt > A14 "War Horse" (drilled with no regrets)
I dont think you can put a 1/8 pipe plug in the slide. (from memory) there isnt enough material in the slide to tap. the plug will either interfere with the spring or with the flow of air going through the carb. the plug might add weight to the slide and cause it not to work properly. I think epoxy would be better or just but a relpacement from Harley and sell the drilled one on ebay

Keith Saltzer
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Post by Keith Saltzer » Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:35 pm

> But am curious what "not much power benefits" really means, I really > cant see it giving more power, mostly thinking a crisper throttle > response, well actually more like a throttle response is what I am > looking for since the carb seems really slow from twist to > Yeeeeeeeeeehaw. > > I know the slower response is easy to control, but times when you
need
> power like 1.5 seconds ago, a crisp respose would be nice without > slipping the clutch to get RPM's up when riding places off the
trails
> and over the hill and through the woods. > > So what is the group idea on this ? Drill the slide or not and what > positive/negative effect ? > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape (hibernating)
It's pretty simple guys. You either want crisper throttle response, or you don't. You will lose 1 or 2 mpg for the mod, big whoop. I and others that I have done the mod for knew what to expect from the mod, did the mod, and are really happy with the mod. It's just a slightly bigger hole to allow the slide to go up quicker. No more power over all, just more power when you want it. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

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Post by kdxkawboy@aol.com » Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:21 pm

In a message dated 2004-12-30 1:41:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, k.saltzer@... writes:
> > It's pretty simple guys. You either want crisper throttle response, > or you don't. You will lose 1 or 2 mpg for the mod, big whoop. > > I and others that I have done the mod for knew what to expect from > the mod, did the mod, and are really happy with the mod. It's just a > slightly bigger hole to allow the slide to go up quicker. No more > power over all, just more power when you want it. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > >
And with the 95 and 99 KLR's that I have done the Dynajet/Pipe mods to, once I got the jetting dialed back in my gas mileage was pretty much the same as what I got stock. Maybe that is a side effect of being jetted for alitude, but that has been my experience with the KLR, but the other street bikes I have put Dynajet kits on. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Michael T

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Post by Michael T » Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:17 am

Welcome to the list! Please , cut your rings in hard and at mid-rpm WOT levels after the motor is warmed up. The first hour is key. EVERYTHING ELSE can wait. Michael T A16 lasvegasrider -----Original Message----- From: geraldazaz@... [mailto:geraldazaz@...] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:18 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Brand New Hello My first post. I drove home my new klr 650 today. I have posted the pics. Any advice for the new guy will be appreciated. Gerald List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links

ron criswell
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Post by ron criswell » Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:35 am

I don't regret drilling mine. I like the quicker throttle response. Criswell Dooden wrote:
> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote: > > still need to drill my slide, but will get there sooner or later. > > > > Don't do it Ape Man !! Can't be undone. Will cut your mpg by a few > with not > > much power benefits. Others have regretted it. > > > > Bogdan > > A few MPG ? Like that matters on a bike with 14/45 sprockets. > > But am curious what "not much power benefits" really means, I really > cant see it giving more power, mostly thinking a crisper throttle > response, well actually more like a throttle response is what I am > looking for since the carb seems really slow from twist to > Yeeeeeeeeeehaw. > > I know the slower response is easy to control, but times when you need > power like 1.5 seconds ago, a crisp respose would be nice without > slipping the clutch to get RPM's up when riding places off the trails > and over the hill and through the woods. > > So what is the group idea on this ? Drill the slide or not and what > positive/negative effect ? > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape (hibernating) > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

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Post by kdxkawboy@aol.com » Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:47 am

Enlarging the hole in the slide doesn't add any power. It simply lets the slide react quicker to the pressure differentials, hence the crisper throttle response. because the slide rises quicker, the engine can suck in a greater volume of air, which sucks a greater volume of gas through the main jet, past the needle into the engine where this greater potential for is converted into the energy that increases the torque by giving a harder push to the power stroke yielding a proportional gain in horsepower since hp = torque*rpm/5252, which is why the horsepower curve always crosses the torque curve at 5252 rpm, if the engine can rev that high. Pat G'ville, Nv On the street, that's not really a big issue, but off road crisp throttle response makes all the difference as you rail a corner. In a message dated 2004-12-31 1:36:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, ron.criswell@... writes:
> > I don't regret drilling mine. I like the quicker throttle response. > > Criswell > > Dooden wrote: > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote: > >> still need to drill my slide, but will get there sooner or later. > >> > >>Don't do it Ape Man !! Can't be undone. Will cut your mpg by a few > >with not > >>much power benefits. Others have regretted it. > >> > >>Bogdan > > > >A few MPG ? Like that matters on a bike with 14/45 sprockets. > > > >But am curious what "not much power benefits" really means, I really > >cant see it giving more power, mostly thinking a crisper throttle > >response, well actually more like a throttle response is what I am > >looking for since the carb seems really slow from twist to > >Yeeeeeeeeeehaw. > > > >I know the slower response is easy to control, but times when you need > >power like 1.5 seconds ago, a crisp respose would be nice without > >slipping the clutch to get RPM's up when riding places off the trails > >and over the hill and through the woods. > > > >So what is the group idea on this ? Drill the slide or not and what > >positive/negative effect ? > > > >Dooden > >A15 Green Ape (hibernating) >
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