Re: Trafficators

[CFritz7001@aol.com]

Chris,
Maybe the following will be of some help.
Years ago, i fitted my TC with an aftermarket system called a "H-B
Trafficator", intended for use of a TD. In essence, it consists of a
3-position rotary switch which, in the neutral position connects sidelights
(both front & rear) and brake lights in the normal way, but when turned
either to the right or left, it isolates the brake lights from each other,
and connects one brake light through a simple flasher, but the other brake
light continues to receive current via the stop-light switch at the master
cylinder. (Notice, NO RELAYS & NO DIODES, just a simple switch!) I mounted
the switch with its shaft passing through the dashboard, just to the right of
the tach, where it is easily used without removing my hand from the steering
wheel. (It could also have been mounted below the dash on a simple angle
bracket, if one wanted to make it nearly invisible, albeit less convenient to
use) Obviously, I also had to add a second "D-lamp" to the rear of the car, a
nd run wires to the rear (one for each brake light; another shared by the
running lights).
Since then, I've added a couple of "refinements", as follows:
1) I wanted indicator lights to show me what was going on. Radio Shack has
a range of tiny 12-volt lamps used as pilot lamps in electronic circuits -
they are about 1/4 inch in diameter, and come in several different colors; I
chose green. I mounted mine on simple black-painted aluminum brackets, which
hold them just below the bottom edge of the dash, where they can be seen when
lighted, but are very inconspicuous when off. While I was at it, since I'd
had problems with the original brake-light switch not always working, I wired
one of these tiny lights so that it comes on when the brakes are applied.
(Not necessary, but it's nice to know that your brake lights are actually
working!) {One could even wire in yet another flasher and switch system to
give a 4-way hazzard warning arrangement, but I won't go into that right
now.}
2). I installed 2-contact sockets in my front wing lights to replace the
original single contact ones. One filament functions as a running light; the
second (higher wattage) filament handles the trafficator duties.
3) After being pulled over for inadequate rear lighting, I made up a
REMOVABLE light bar for the rear, which holds two LARGE round tail lights
originally made for boat trailer use. (Prettier lights are no doubt
available--I used these mostly because I already had them!) The bar fits
between the spare tire and the fuel tank, above the spare tire bracket,
giving the lights a high, easily-seen position, and is held in place using a
couple of eyebolts and bungee cords hooked to the spare wheel's spokes. The
light bar is thus ELECTRICALY ISOLATED from the TC until it is plugged in to
a connector, which provides the necessary ground connection, as well as the
current to power the lights. The permanently-mounted "D-lights" continue to
function whether or not the light bar is in use. For shows, the whole light
bar assembly can be removed in less than a minute with NO tools, leaving no
visible evidence behind except for the hidden connector. The light bar fits
into the boot when not in use.
(A fringe benefit of this mounting system and the use of a plug-in
connector is that it provides a fool-proof way to have tail lights on the car
if it is being towed by another vehicle, without having to worry about
incompatible electrical grounds between the two vehicles.)
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This description sounds more complicated than the actual setup really is.
If you're interested, I still have the annotated wiring diagram, which I can
post on the TABC website (assuming I can get my scanner to cooperate), and I
MAY be able to identify a suitable RadioShack switch.
My system has been in use for several years now with no problems, and I
feel it was well worth the time & effort.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Carl Fritz

[MERLIN GARAGES]

Hi could anyone with an original TA Lucas list of electrical parts look
up the Lucas part no for the Trafficators and the Reversing light as
fitted as optional extras to pre war TA,s.

They are probably the same as fitted to the TA/B Tickfords.

Many thanks

David Darrell
TA 0455

[Diecuts@aol.com]

Hi Darrell,

I may have a set of extra TA trafficators if you are in need.

Also a pair of round tailights with new clear side lenses and show chrome by
Customchrome. SA2333 didn't need'em.

Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, TA2969 tickford.


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[Clive Sherriff]

I dont think they were the same as the TA Tickford.

The tickford ones were built in, whilst certainly some,
if not all of the TB indicators were the Lucas box type,
which bolted onto the body in front of the door handle
with a bracket and were separate from the body.

I'll send a photo of a TB so fitted (taken 1963) but I
was shown a photo of the same car with these in early
1940s, and have seen a couple other photos of TAs
with apparently identical indicators. I have never seen
a TA/TB with original built in indicators.

They were a box with Lucas imprinted top and bottom
on each side, and with a vertically fluted section between
in all cases.

This is not conclusive evidence though and it would be
nice if anyone knew a definitive answer (or two !!! )

It would be nice to get a pair, as the two on the photo
car (I still have this car) rusted out many years ago.

All Best

Clive

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From: "Merlin Garages"
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Subject: [mg-tabc] Trafficators


> Hi could anyone with an original TA Lucas list of electrical
parts look
> up the Lucas part no for the Trafficators and the Reversing
light as
> fitted as optional extras to pre war TA,s.
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> They are probably the same as fitted to the TA/B Tickfords.
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> Many thanks
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> David Darrell
> TA 0455
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[MERLIN GARAGES]

The car came with 2 slots (excluding the large rust holes) on either
side of the car that lined up just forward of the A post. This gave
enough room to screw the trafficators to the wood (sideways if you know
what I mean).

If I remember right there was no embellishment (ie chrome) or fixing
holes just the slots I am not sure if they sloped with the A post or
were vertical.

I regret not keeping the panel as a pattern but that was 30 years ago!

Photos would be nice.

David Darrell
TA 0455

[Eladdedrok@aol.com]

I have found a set of trafficators in my MG parts stash. They look good exterior and interior and yellow covers are nice.
Anyone in the group need a set before I e-bay them ? $50.00 and postage or ? Dale TC9749





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[LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com]

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From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
To: parleea@gmail.com
Sent: 11/14/2011 11:13:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Trafficators


Dear Lads and Lassies:
In days of Deutschland VW Yore,the Trafficators or Signal Indicator" Wig
Wag" sticks were called:
MOX NIX STIX.
Meaning: "It does not matter Warning" . Just hold on and watch what is
about to happen.
Tally Ho!
Poolside on Manasota Key
Thom Collins


In a message dated 11/14/2011 10:58:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
parleea@gmail.com writes:

I think the English called the turn signals "trafficators" didn't they?

Arnold, TC0580

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM, wrote:

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> Well then, who's going to be the first to correct the more glaring
errors
> and the sketchy nature of the Wikipedia entries on our cars?... and who's
> for a discussion over whether US or Engish english should be used (eg
turn
> signals vs indicators).
>
> Ian Thomson
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[Arnold Parlee]

Sorry, my mind is starting to work after 3 cups of coffee and 4 hours.
Trafficators were the little signal arms or wig wags.

Arnold TC0580

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, wrote:

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> ____________________________________
> From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
> To: parleea@gmail.com
> Sent: 11/14/2011 11:13:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
> Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Trafficators
>
>
> Dear Lads and Lassies:
> In days of Deutschland VW Yore,the Trafficators or Signal Indicator" Wig
> Wag" sticks were called:
> MOX NIX STIX.
> Meaning: "It does not matter Warning" . Just hold on and watch what is
> about to happen.
> Tally Ho!
> Poolside on Manasota Key
> Thom Collins
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>
> In a message dated 11/14/2011 10:58:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> parleea@gmail.com writes:
>
> I think the English called the turn signals "trafficators" didn't they?
>
> Arnold, TC0580
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> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM, wrote:
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> > Well then, who's going to be the first to correct the more glaring
> errors
> > and the sketchy nature of the Wikipedia entries on our cars?... and who's
> > for a discussion over whether US or Engish english should be used (eg
> turn
> > signals vs indicators).
> >
> > Ian Thomson
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[Martin Lane]

Sorry to be contrary, especially as a new boy, they were semaphore indicators, surely!

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:19, Arnold Parlee wrote:

> Sorry, my mind is starting to work after 3 cups of coffee and 4 hours.
> Trafficators were the little signal arms or wig wags.
>
> Arnold TC0580
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> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, wrote:
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>> ____________________________________
>> From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
>> To: parleea@gmail.com
>> Sent: 11/14/2011 11:13:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
>> Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Trafficators
>>
>>
>> Dear Lads and Lassies:
>> In days of Deutschland VW Yore,the Trafficators or Signal Indicator" Wig
>> Wag" sticks were called:
>> MOX NIX STIX.
>> Meaning: "It does not matter Warning" . Just hold on and watch what is
>> about to happen.
>> Tally Ho!
>> Poolside on Manasota Key
>> Thom Collins
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>>
>> In a message dated 11/14/2011 10:58:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> parleea@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> I think the English called the turn signals "trafficators" didn't they?
>>
>> Arnold, TC0580
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM, wrote:
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>>> Well then, who's going to be the first to correct the more glaring
>> errors
>>> and the sketchy nature of the Wikipedia entries on our cars?... and who's
>>> for a discussion over whether US or Engish english should be used (eg
>> turn
>>> signals vs indicators).
>>>
>>> Ian Thomson
>>>
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[Stan Teitge]

My father had a 49 Anglia and in the dusty roads of the Alberta foothills these signal arms or whatever would plug up and mal function. He called them many names not repeatable here.

Stan Teitge TC6680

On 2011-11-14, at 1:37 PM, Martin Lane wrote:

> Sorry to be contrary, especially as a new boy, they were semaphore indicators, surely!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:19, Arnold Parlee wrote:
>
> > Sorry, my mind is starting to work after 3 cups of coffee and 4 hours.
> > Trafficators were the little signal arms or wig wags.
> >
> > Arnold TC0580
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> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, wrote:
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> >> ____________________________________
> >> From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
> >> To: parleea@gmail.com
> >> Sent: 11/14/2011 11:13:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
> >> Subj: Re: [mg-tabc] Trafficators
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Lads and Lassies:
> >> In days of Deutschland VW Yore,the Trafficators or Signal Indicator" Wig
> >> Wag" sticks were called:
> >> MOX NIX STIX.
> >> Meaning: "It does not matter Warning" . Just hold on and watch what is
> >> about to happen.
> >> Tally Ho!
> >> Poolside on Manasota Key
> >> Thom Collins
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 11/14/2011 10:58:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> parleea@gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> I think the English called the turn signals "trafficators" didn't they?
> >>
> >> Arnold, TC0580
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM, wrote:
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> >>> **
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well then, who's going to be the first to correct the more glaring
> >> errors
> >>> and the sketchy nature of the Wikipedia entries on our cars?... and who's
> >>> for a discussion over whether US or Engish english should be used (eg
> >> turn
> >>> signals vs indicators).
> >>>
> >>> Ian Thomson
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