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Norm Keller
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Post by Norm Keller » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:28 pm

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I did locate the wiring diagram. The problem is I cannot locate/match the wires going out from the key ignition  properly.  Like I said - I'm slightly challenged in that dept.  The battery is charged up.   Is there any way to test just the cdi? Take it out check resistance?  There were two sets of wires cut. I can provide the pics tomorrow. The first set had something like 7 wires. Main harness.    All the colors matched when I connected them with electrical tape. A guy told me I should be able to bump start the bike with that connected. There was another set of wires cut from the key ignition and I could not match them.  I can email pictures tomorrow to clear things up. This is such a pain! It's summer and I want to ride! Norm and Fred, if I may - I will email you directly so that I don't bore the rest of the gang here. Thanks! -David Z mobile: 646.267.1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Norm Keller wrote: I am not the only one here who can walk you through some testing to get closer to the cause. Unfortunately I cannot look at this this evening as have been working on the Gen2 wiring project all afternoon and brain needs to be removed to soak in vinegar over night. :-) If you need a hand tomorrow, I can try to help. I advise you to locate a wiring diagram (unless have done so) and identify the wires. All too often the wires on one side of a plug are somewhat different from those on the other side when they connect directly to a component. That bears watching but can usually be confirmed by logic and ohm meter. It will likely be well to identify and test resistance to the trigger coil, and switches, particularly the safety switches if any.   ------ Original Message ------ From: "david zawadzki" To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; "Norm Keller" Sent: 2015-07-10 8:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Moto Computer   Hi Norm, Sorry, yes my fault.It is a 2006 Yamaha xt225. The bike was stolen on June 18 2015 and found 3 weeks later.  All the lights work, it cranks but does not start. I checked for the spark and it gets a very very weak spark. Maybe one spark at the beginning and when I keep cranking -no spark.   Since the wires were all sliced up by the headlight and a 20amp fuse was blown I am guessing that that they tried to jump it and burned the cdi unit. This has happened to me on my klr and when I replaced the cdi it started right up.  Gas is maybe 3 weeks old.  The bike was serviced at a shop about 4 months ago.  Unfortunately I only found one place that sells the cdi unit and am afraid someone else might grab it.  The seller has a return policy.   I am not really savvy with electronics and was thinking of ordering the cdi, trying it and see what happens.  Thoughts? Thanks to everyone for their input.   -David  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:15 PM, 'Norm Keller' normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   What year XT225? Its best to include the make, model and year of the machine when requesting information. Even KLR Gen1 and Gen2 have some significant differences which waste a lot of time in using the wrong series.
-- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com    

zx111990
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Post by zx111990 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:31 am

I am looking for a mechanic in the San Antonio area.  If anyone is a mechanic or knows of one, your help would be greatly appreciated. I am having carburetor and or petcock  issues. Thanks in advance.  Larry 2003 KLR650

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Post by jeffsaline » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:47 am

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zx111990
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Post by zx111990 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:14 pm

I keep having to get the carburetor cleaned until I finally bought a carb rebuild kit which I had a motorcycle mechanic install. Now it's hard to keep it idling at lights again. I tried adjusting the adjustment dial, but it doesn't help. Now, I see fuel dripping from petcock. Should I just buy a new carb? Larry Sent from my iPad
On Jul 12, 2015, at 7:41 AM, salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  On 12 Jul 2015 04:31:19 -0700 "zx111990@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:   I am looking for a mechanic in the San Antonio area.  If anyone is a mechanic or knows of one, your help would be greatly appreciated. I am having carburetor and or petcock  issues. Thanks in advance. Larry 2003 KLR650on right side. No help. Now, the petcock seems to be dripping  <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><>   Larry,   No idea about techs in that area.  Do you want help on line?  If so, share the problem(s) or symptoms and maybe we can help.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 ..   . . . . .   .   ____________________________________________________________ [b]Buffett s Warning for YOU[/b] 4 in 5 Americans aren t taking his shocking advice. Click here now. fool.com

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Post by jeffsaline » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:43 pm

Larry,   If I was working on your issue the first thing I would do is stop the leak from the petcock.  Petcock issues can be very difficult to troubleshoot as they can cause a variety of problems.   I will make a wild guess that the petcock diaphragm is leaking and is allowing fuel out of the vent hole on the side of the petcock and also allowing fuel to be sucked into the vacuum port of the carb.  When fuel is being sucked into the vacuum port of the carb it makes the mixture too rich for the engine to run at idle and so it dies.  While using the throttle which allows more air to lean the mixture the engine will run.   If you take a ride and do a little closed throttle deceleration it will help identify the problem.  As soon as you can stop the bike and engine.  Remove the vacuum line from the back of the petcock and look inside.  It should be dry.  If there is any fuel or dampness it suggests the petcock vacuum diaphragm is leaking.   The fix is to replace the petcock diaphragm which costs about $15 or so and probably takes 30 minutes for most owners.  You can also convert the stock petcock to manual with a blockoff plate like I sell or replace the petcock with a manual model.  I'll bet Fred has them available.   If the petcock diaphragm is not leaking the petcock fuel leak still needs to be fixed.  Sometimes it is just the four screws on the back of the petcock are loose.  For access to those screws you must remove the fuel tank.   If you clean the petcock and dry it you should be able to determine exactly where the external leak is starting.   There is a possibility a piece of gunk got moved into the carb after your mechanic cleaned it and the gunk is now blocking the pilot jet.  The fix for that is to remove the float bowl and pilot jet and clean it.  If the fuel hose from the petcock to the carb is old it could be coming apart inside and letting gunk into the carb.  A quick inspection of the hose should tell you if it should be replaced.   I'll suggest you should not have to buy a carb.   Let us know how you're doing and we can try to help.   Best,   Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650   On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 16:13:57 -0500 zx111990@... writes: I keep having to get the carburetor cleaned until I finally bought a carb rebuild kit which I had a motorcycle mechanic install. Now it's hard to keep it idling at lights again. I tried adjusting the adjustment dial, but it doesn't help. Now, I see fuel dripping from petcock. Should I just buy a new carb?   Larry   Sent from my iPad   On Jul 12, 2015, at 7:41 AM, salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:     ?   On 12 Jul 2015 04:31:19 -0700 "zx111990@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:   I am looking for a mechanic in the San Antonio area.  If anyone is a mechanic or knows of one, your help would be greatly appreciated. I am having carburetor and or petcock  issues. Thanks in advance.   Larry 2003 KLR650on right side. No help. Now, the petcock seems to be dripping <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><>   Larry,   No idea about techs in that area.  Do you want help on line?  If so, share the problem(s) or symptoms and maybe we can help.   Best,   Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650   .. . . . . .   ____________________________________________________________ [b]Old School Yearbook Pics[/b] View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! classmates.com

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Post by Norm Keller » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:07 pm

#ygrps-yiv-1942052811 blockquote.ygrps-yiv-1942052811cite {margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:0px;border-left:1px solid #cccccc;} #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 blockquote.ygrps-yiv-1942052811cite2 {margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px;padding-left:10px;padding-right:0px;border-left:1px solid #cccccc;margin-top:3px;padding-top:0px;} #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 .ygrps-yiv-1942052811plain pre, #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 .ygrps-yiv-1942052811plain tt {font-family:monospace;font-size:100%;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;} #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 a img {border:0px;}#ygrps-yiv-1942052811 {font-family:Tahoma;font-size:12pt;} #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 .ygrps-yiv-1942052811plain pre, #ygrps-yiv-1942052811 .ygrps-yiv-1942052811plain tt {font-family:Tahoma;font-size:12pt;} FWIW, I just encountered the second Gen1 which was oozing fuel from between the body of the petcock and that side of the diaphragm. I used Permatex Permashield Gasket Dressing & Flange Sealer #85420. It is one of the very few gasoline tolerant gasket dressings on the market. It doesn't harden or bond parts together so is ideal for fuel tank flanges, petcocks, and those "have to do something" carb bowl sealing emergencies. The petcock diaphragm surface seemed clean, flat and undamaged so put the blame onto the plastic spacer plate which also looked fine. I'm assuming that the plastic is old and deforming under pressure. The spacer and I have that in common I suppose. :-)

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