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[eddie mauri]

OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I  - HATE -  about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box."  

I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place?  And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove?  Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery...........

Quick story:  The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on.  A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery.  He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables."  I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?"  Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running.  Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery.  Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement.

Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy.  To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy.   Here I stand, I shall not recant.

Eddie

[Eddie]

#ygrps-yiv-130460124 {margin:0.7em;}#ygrps-yiv-130460124 p {margin:0;}#ygrps-yiv-130460124 .ygrps-yiv-130460124OECFntDef {font-family:"Segoe UI", Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;} A maint. free battery went in my new '09 almost immediately. Then I epoxied velcro to the frame rails and seat and eliminated the seat bolts entirely. The seat came off in seconds if desired and never unwantingly moved. -   --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: http://www.oeclassic.com/  other eddie     Original Message:

From: eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>, eddie mauri To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 6/23/2015 9:40:15 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] What I Hate About the KLR....................    OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I  - HATE -  about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box."   I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place?  And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove?  Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story:  The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on.  A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery.  He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables."  I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?"  Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running.  Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery.  Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy.  To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy.   Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie

[jeffsaline]

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[John Biccum]

I am running the Odyssey PC-545 sealed battery. This battery has the terminals on the SIDE of the battery rather than the top. I also removed (and sold on eBay) the side covers. This makes the terminals in plain view and so access is simple, quick, easy . An added plus is that if the bike takes a nap there is no battery acid spilled. There are three downsides to this battery however: They are not inexpensive You need to fabricate a ~ 3 long jumper (14 ga wire with a male bullet plug on one end and a female receptacle to suit the bullet plug on the other) When the battery fails it fails suddenly, full power one day and no power the next From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 08:40 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] What I Hate About the KLR.................... OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I - HATE - about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box." I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place? And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove? Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story: The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on. A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery. He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables." I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?" Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running. Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery. Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy. To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy. Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie ---------- ---------- ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Yahoo]

Agreed! May get a gel battery next time.. My one year battery was dying and I found it was low on acid. Fortunately I added distilled water and recharged with a new novo genius and I'm good. So where can we move it? Paul Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, "eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I  - HATE -  about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box."   I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place?  And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove?  Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story:  The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on.  A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery.  He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables."  I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?"  Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running.  Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery.  Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy.  To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy.   Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie

[mark ward]

I (slowly 2-3 minutes?+-) recharge/jump using the Battery Tender Plug.I made special Jumper, Both ends can either be, small Clamps OR Tender 2 prong plugs.    On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:27 AM, "Yahoo pwhatfourever@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Agreed! May get a gel battery next time.. My one year battery was dying and I found it was low on acid. Fortunately I added distilled water and recharged with a new novo genius and I'm good. So where can we move it? Paul Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:40 AM, "eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I  - HATE -  about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box."   I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place?  And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove?  Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story:  The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on.  A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery.  He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables."  I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?"  Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running.  Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery.  Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy.  To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy.   Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie

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[achesley43@ymail.com]

I'm like Jeff, I go in at the solenoid under the cover for plus and frame for negative. In my 18 years of KLR ownership and riding , have had to do this more than a few times.  

[Martin Earl]

My very first KLR rage was this same issue; who in their right mind made the 'adventure-KLR' battery so difficult to access.well, maybe it was the second KLR rage... The first 'rage' was the 2d day I had it at home and I attempted to make 180 turn in the back yard, slight slope and the pig decides to take a dirt nap. Discovering how hard it is to pick up, on a slope, on grass. sigh.I was lucky I did not break off the L mirror. Then, on to the battery...I wanted to add my very first farkle, a pigtail for the battery tender.YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME =access to the battery, exercise-in-futility.After some 12 years and 80K miles, a battery change is ~10 minutes, to include finding the tools, and cleaning them up afterwards.Others (above this post) commented how they made some adjustments...but what really surprises me, is no one ever developed a battery post farkle that allows an easy plug and play jumper cable terminal. Yes, I can see Norm's mental-inventive gears turning, just as I can hear Eddie M's stomach acid churning. heh!

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:40 AM, eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I - HATE - about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box." I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place? And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove? Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story: The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on. A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery. He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables." I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?" Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running. Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery. Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy. To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy. Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie

[GMac]

I ve had to jump mind a couple of times. I use the frame for the negative and the bolt on the starter. J Make sure your key is on AND it s out of gear when you do it, because the starter will start turning immediately. GregM From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:09 AM To: eddiebmauri@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] What I Hate About the KLR.................... On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:40:15 +0000 (UTC) "eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes: OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I - HATE - about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box." I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place? And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove? Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story: The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on. A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery. He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables." I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?" Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running. Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery. Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy. To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy. Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie <><><><><><> <><><><><><> Eddie, You can easily access (electrically) the positive side of the battery by removing the small black plastic cover above the left footpeg. Behind that cover is the starter solenoid. There are two large cables on the starter solenoid, one goes to the starter motor and is only hot when the key is on and the starter button is pressed. The other is the "other" end of the positive battery cable. So connecting to that end is just like connecting to the battery positive terminal. I gave a jump to a guy that worked for me in Oklahoma before I retired. His battery placement situation was similar to the KLR. We connected the negative cable to the frame and the positive lead to a long screwdriver. He held the tip of the screwdriver to the battery post or starter solenoid (I don't remember which) and then started the bike. It worked well. If you try this it is good to not touch the frame with the jumper cables connected. : ) I try to connect wires to this same starter solenoid terminal to keep wiring away from the battery posts. Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/558968c3e781268c31acdst04vuc> Buffett s Warning for YOU 4 in 5 Americans aren t taking his shocking advice. Click here now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/558968c3e781268c31acdst04vuc> fool.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ateam]

I just did a battery terminal extender on my Auto Zone cheap battery. I have a number of connections. First I took a small piece of cut off rubber tubing and stuffed it underneath that POS nut inside the battery terminal. This keeps the little square nut in place. I then purchased a 3 inch bolt that fit into the terminal. I also cut the head off the bolt and installed the now headless bolt into the battery with main power and a battery tender connected. Then I added a nut on top and connected GPS, heated grips and an outlet cig charger with 2 additional nuts on top. There is plenty of room to add other connections. Removing the leads from the battery for maintenance is a very easy disconnect. Ateam From: mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:23 AM To: DSN KLR650 ; eddie mauri Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] What I Hate About the KLR.................... My very first KLR rage was this same issue; who in their right mind made the 'adventure-KLR' battery so difficult to access. well, maybe it was the second KLR rage... The first 'rage' was the 2d day I had it at home and I attempted to make 180 turn in the back yard, slight slope and the pig decides to take a dirt nap. Discovering how hard it is to pick up, on a slope, on grass. sigh. I was lucky I did not break off the L mirror. Then, on to the battery...I wanted to add my very first farkle, a pigtail for the battery tender. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME =access to the battery, exercise-in-futility. After some 12 years and 80K miles, a battery change is ~10 minutes, to include finding the tools, and cleaning them up afterwards. Others (above this post) commented how they made some adjustments...but what really surprises me, is no one ever developed a battery post farkle that allows an easy plug and play jumper cable terminal. Yes, I can see Norm's mental-inventive gears turning, just as I can hear Eddie M's stomach acid churning. heh!

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:40 AM, eddie mauri eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: OK, so allow me to vent and rant about what I - HATE - about the KLR.............."the placement of the battery/battery box." I mean, could the battery not have been placed in a more out-of-the-way, inaccessible, tight, difficult place? And, whats with all of the wiring running on top of the battery to make it just that more difficult to remove? Oh, before I forget, you have to remove the side panels and seat just to get near the battery........... Quick story: The other day I parked next to a Triumph parked with its lights on. A few hours later, when I went to my cage, the Triumph rider was standing there with a dead battery. He asked if i could jump his battery; "sure, I have (standard car) jumper cables." I thought to myself, "this is going to be interesting, how is he going to pull this off?" Quite simple, he attached one clip to a terminal, and with a pocket knife attached to the other clip, he was able to reach the other terminal, and Bingo, his Triumph was running. Nothing to remove, quick, easy access to the battery. Simple, quick, easy............ three words that I would never use relative to the KLR's battery placement. Now I know that for many of you, my sentiments are sheer blasphemy. To say anything negative about the KLR is heresy. Here I stand, I shall not recant. Eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]