thanksgiving appreciation for this group

[Fred Hink]

Very nicely put and thank you all for your support. Season s Greetings Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Kevin Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 6:53 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Thanksgiving Appreciation for this group Listers, As I think of things I am grateful for today, this community comes to mind. When people ask me why I chose to buy a KLR, one of the things I always mention is the incredible support and wisdom that is available on this forum. You have helped me through many problems, big and small, and given me helpful tips on all things KLR-- troubleshooting suggestions, riding advice, and of course, oil. Thanks to Fred for hosting this forum, and thanks to all of you who share your knowledge and expertise. The contributions you make here ripple out and have a far bigger impact than you might imagine. Appreciatively, Kevin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Whats the gist of music web sites etc. EASY I still haven't practiced downloding, or transfering pictures etc., and am shy of ecxcepting the WRONG websites. Hakers, or loading you with Junk mail, etc. (shh. while the heads of Microsoft are trying to recruit me, I'm far from a computor guy. LOL) cost? contracts? ETC. and what every I should be concerned with but do not know to ask? I just want to make a few CD's of music I like, I'm tired of buying a cd, that turns out to have 1 song I like, or only 1-3 new songs and all the rest are rehashed, from there last CD. Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

Mark, If you are trying to get music without paying, you are trying to break the law. Good luck. There are lots of pitfalls and if you are caught, there are lots of ridiculous penalties. If you are trying to put together a few songs you like from CDs you have bought, that is easy. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/24/2012 7:01 AM, mark ward wrote: > > Whats the gist of music web sites etc. > > EASY I still haven't practiced downloding, or transfering pictures > etc., and am shy of ecxcepting the WRONG websites. Hakers, or loading > you with Junk mail, etc. > (shh. while the heads of Microsoft are trying to recruit me, I'm far > from a computor guy. LOL) > > cost? contracts? ETC. and what every I should be concerned with but do > not know to ask? > > I just want to make a few CD's of music I like, I'm tired of buying a > cd, that turns out to have 1 song I like, or only 1-3 new songs and > all the rest are rehashed, from there last CD. > > Thanks > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

Understood, Mark. I have found iTunes to be useable in that regard. Likewise CDBaby http://www.cdbaby.com/ . Amazon is probably also a way to go, but I haven't tried it. If you know what you want, you can sometimes get ONE SONG from the artist's web site. Also, sometimes, iTunes. None of these are sources of virii or bad karma. Cheers! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/24/2012 5:21 PM, mark ward wrote: > I mentioned , cost, contracts, (do like want to "sign up for long term > stuff) & ease of use. > Never asked about "free", > And sites that offer "free", you egt snared with Virus's etc, in your > computor. > I just want to be able, to buy what I WANT, and not a whole 10-20 > song's CD's, to find I only liked 1-2, and the rest are junk or 1 new > song and all the rest are rehashed, from old CD's. > > --- On *Sun, 11/25/12, RobertWichert //* wrote: > > > From: RobertWichert > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Music downloading (nonklr) > To: "mark ward" > Cc: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sunday, November 25, 2012, 1:00 AM > > Mark, > > If you are trying to get music without paying, you are trying to > break > the law. Good luck. There are lots of pitfalls and if you are caught, > there are lots of ridiculous penalties. > > If you are trying to put together a few songs you like from CDs > you have > bought, that is easy. > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 11/24/2012 7:01 AM, mark ward wrote: > > > > Whats the gist of music web sites etc. > > > > EASY I still haven't practiced downloding, or transfering pictures > > etc., and am shy of ecxcepting the WRONG websites. Hakers, or > loading > > you with Junk mail, etc. > > (shh. while the heads of Microsoft are trying to recruit me, I'm > far > > from a computor guy. LOL) > > > > cost? contracts? ETC. and what every I should be concerned with > but do > > not know to ask? > > > > I just want to make a few CD's of music I like, I'm tired of > buying a > > cd, that turns out to have 1 song I like, or only 1-3 new songs and > > all the rest are rehashed, from there last CD. > > > > Thanks > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[George Bynum]

> Mark, > > If you are trying to get music without paying, you are trying to break the > law. Good luck. There are lots of pitfalls and if you are caught, there > are lots of ridiculous penalties. > > If you are trying to put together a few songs you like from CDs you have > bought, that is easy.

Mark, our county library subscribes to a music source freegalmusic which allows LEGALLY downloading up to 3 selections a week. They are 256kbps DRM free MP3 format, and I've found many, but not all, of the albums I see in articles. For example as to how current, Skyfall (Adele), Sweet (Dave Matthews Band). and Blown Away (Carrie Underwood), are available. He mentioned ... from CDs ... in Windows 7, ripping is a function of included tools ... insert CD and rip is an option. BE SURE to change from the windoze only format to MP3. George

[RobertWichert]

Wow. Freegalmusic sounds great. But you MUST access it from a library? https://www.freegalmusic.com/users/idlogin Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 11/25/2012 7:55 AM, George Bynum wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > If you are trying to get music without paying, you are trying to > break the > > law. Good luck. There are lots of pitfalls and if you are caught, there > > are lots of ridiculous penalties. > > > > If you are trying to put together a few songs you like from CDs you have > > bought, that is easy. > > Mark, our county library subscribes to a music source freegalmusic > which allows LEGALLY > downloading up to 3 selections a week. They are 256kbps DRM free MP3 > format, and I've > found many, but not all, of the albums I see in articles. > > For example as to how current, Skyfall (Adele), Sweet (Dave Matthews > Band). and Blown > Away (Carrie Underwood), are available. > > He mentioned ... from CDs ... > > in Windows 7, ripping is a function of included tools ... insert CD > and rip is an option. BE > SURE to change from the windoze only format to MP3. > > George > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[chris kelty]

Try pandora or spotify , don't bother downloading it just listen to artists and playlists for free with occasional ads or pay a little and get no ads [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Hey All 1st off thanks for the advice, Helpfull as usual. 2nd. I have received aprox 9, reminders, that if I'm looking to avoid paying, (free?) that is against the law. (ME? I would point blank say STEALING. If you are a theif, at least be honest about what you are doing.) In my request I mentioned, COST, (by song or weekly, monthly ETC. ) CONTRACTS, ETC. I do not want to get into a long contract, over about 20-60 songs. I did get plenty of good advice, (AS USUAL) and sites to check out, including a reminder there are sights to just listen to a song so I can hear what is is before purchasing. PS. I use cap's to make a word stand out, I''m NOT yelling at anyone. while I do understand it's the modern TECHY thing to do when Yelling, and being mean to someone.. Thanks again Y'ALL

--- On Sat, 11/24/12, mark ward wrote: From: mark ward Subject: Music downloading (nonklr) To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, November 24, 2012, 3:01 PM Whats the gist of music web sites etc. EASY I still haven't practiced downloding, or transfering pictures etc., and am shy of ecxcepting the WRONG websites. Hakers, or loading you with Junk mail, etc. (shh. while the heads of Microsoft are trying to recruit me, I'm far from a computor guy. LOL) cost? contracts? ETC. and what every I should be concerned with but do not know to ask? I just want to make a few CD's of music I like, I'm tired of buying a cd, that turns out to have 1 song I like, or only 1-3 new songs and all the rest are rehashed, from there last CD. Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Lourd Baltimore]

OK. I'll bite. What is being stolen? If I steal your bus, then I have deprived you of your vehicle. If I copy a friend's CD, he still has the CD. You could say that I have deprived a record company of a potential sale. However, if I have no money (like a lot of broke people), then I had no intention of buying it anyways. That would make me almost as bad these "thieves". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8317952.stm (Singing in Public) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/23/finnish_isp_monitors_bust_nine_year_old http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/communications/ASCAP.html (Girls Scouts of America) https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/07/02 (your ringtone) The term you are looking for is Copyright Infringement. Happy Birthday to You was published in the late 19th century. Have you ever sung "Happy Birthday to You" in public? Then you are "thief" and owe Time Warner it's share of the $5 million they were getting annually for that song in 2008. Well actually you owe someone else as they have since sold the rights to some other investment group. In which case you will owe that group until it falls in the public domain in 2030. Yes, 2030. The Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 extended copyright terms to life of the author plus 70 years and for works of corporate authorship to 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever endpoint is earlier. Tell me how, in the words of Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the Constitution, these copyright terms "...promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." I really would like to hear a good reason. More reading for your pleasure. Items that would have entered public domain had the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 not been passed. http://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2012/pre-1976 That all being said (ranted), I whole-heatedly support artists I enjoy. I go see live shows and buy direct from them when possible. However, your use of the term "stealing" is just a punchline to the setup of the entire copyright joke. Josh . ________________________________ From: mark ward To: List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012, 19:35 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Music downloading (nonklr) Hey All 1st off thanks for the advice, Helpfull as usual. 2nd. I have received aprox 9, reminders, that if I'm looking to avoid paying, (free?) that is against the law. (ME? I would point blank say STEALING. If you are a theif, at least be honest about what you are doing.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david zawadzki]

I use Spotify. You can get the free or the $9.99 per month version and have all the music available on your computer or your phone at anytime. Well worth it. Saves the hassle of downloading torrentz andtransfering music into itunes..... -David

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, mark ward wrote: > ** > > > Whats the gist of music web sites etc. > > EASY I still haven't practiced downloding, or transfering pictures etc., > and am shy of ecxcepting the WRONG websites. Hakers, or loading you with > Junk mail, etc. > (shh. while the heads of Microsoft are trying to recruit me, I'm far from > a computor guy. LOL) > > cost? contracts? ETC. and what every I should be concerned with but do not > know to ask? > > I just want to make a few CD's of music I like, I'm tired of buying a cd, > that turns out to have 1 song I like, or only 1-3 new songs and all the > rest are rehashed, from there last CD. > > Thanks > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com http://www.thelegendof/> www.thevanguardband.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]