stripped choke lever screw thread

[jwflower53]

Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. Experts chime in?

[Darren Clark]

Wavy rotors are for looks. I went with the EBC over sized rotor on the front and was amazed at how much better it was than stock (2004).

On 09.14.2012 7:41 PM, jwflower53 wrote: > Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. Experts chime in? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ian Francisco]

I can't speak out of experience with wavy rotors vs plain in the same size, but physics can't be ignored. A larger rotor increases the leverage the caliper and pad has on the wheel. Look at a Buell front brake. He chose that setup over a twin disc, probably for weight savings, and just to be different, but it's effective too. I don't think a wavy rotor is going to do much for a KLR front brake. Braided line does have an effect, and good pads. I think other readers will have more experience with different brands of pads than I do. I find the KLR's brakes adequate in stock form. I have other bikes for other purposes. If the KLR were my only bike I suppose I'd be more concerned about getting it to do everything better. It's like a Jeep Wrangler. It's not the best at anything in stock form but it is still supremely capable when used within its design parameters. -- Ian Francisco http://www.scarletfuries.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 Wavy rotors http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/message/206998;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYmpmOTBpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMjA2OTk4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3MDQ0MTM-> Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "jwflower53" jwflower53 Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. Experts chime in? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

Well, I'm a mechanical engineer, with some limited knowledge of fluid flow, and I would say that a wavy rotor should fade less due to better cooling due to more turbulent air flow over the rotor. It also looks cool. Cool. Get it. Cool. As long as the material, finish, and area under the pads were the same, it should stop the same. I'm pretty sure of that too. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 9/18/2012 6:41 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > I can't speak out of experience with wavy rotors vs plain in the same > size, > but physics can't be ignored. A larger rotor increases the leverage the > caliper and pad has on the wheel. Look at a Buell front brake. He chose > that setup over a twin disc, probably for weight savings, and just to be > different, but it's effective too. > > I don't think a wavy rotor is going to do much for a KLR front brake. > Braided line does have an effect, and good pads. I think other readers > will > have more experience with different brands of pads than I do. I find the > KLR's brakes adequate in stock form. I have other bikes for other > purposes. > If the KLR were my only bike I suppose I'd be more concerned about getting > it to do everything better. It's like a Jeep Wrangler. It's not the > best at > anything in stock form but it is still supremely capable when used within > its design parameters. > -- > Ian Francisco > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > Wavy rotors > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/message/206998;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYmpmOTBpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMjA2OTk4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3MDQ0MTM-> > Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "jwflower53" > jwflower53 ?subject=Re%3A%20Wavy%20rotors> > Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better > than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without > adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, > etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't > installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop > that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 > model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. > Experts > chime in? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ron criswell]

A friend improved braking on his KLR by putting double pot calipers front and rear. He used V Strom 650 calipers (I think). I believe he to fashion a new bracket to work. I can find out if anybody is interested. I think his bike is around a 2005. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > I can't speak out of experience with wavy rotors vs plain in the same size, > but physics can't be ignored. A larger rotor increases the leverage the > caliper and pad has on the wheel. Look at a Buell front brake. He chose > that setup over a twin disc, probably for weight savings, and just to be > different, but it's effective too. > > I don't think a wavy rotor is going to do much for a KLR front brake. > Braided line does have an effect, and good pads. I think other readers will > have more experience with different brands of pads than I do. I find the > KLR's brakes adequate in stock form. I have other bikes for other purposes. > If the KLR were my only bike I suppose I'd be more concerned about getting > it to do everything better. It's like a Jeep Wrangler. It's not the best at > anything in stock form but it is still supremely capable when used within > its design parameters. > -- > Ian Francisco > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > Wavy rotors http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/message/206998;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYmpmOTBpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMjA2OTk4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3MDQ0MTM-> > Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "jwflower53" > jwflower53 > Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better > than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without > adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, > etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't > installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop > that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 > model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. Experts > chime in? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeffrey]

I'd like to maximize front braking without adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, etc. The weight of the front brake setup is the last thing you should worry about. If you ride on the street much get an oversized front rotor; wavy or not!

[RobertWichert]

Yes, but you will really love the new switch. Much better. Go for the gold! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 9/19/2012 9:02 AM, hansenj32 wrote: > > Thanks to all for your input. I just got off the phone with our local > fastener store and they carry a Heli-Coil kit for the 5mm thread which > includes a dozen inserts. That was great news, but at $35 for the kit, I > need to weigh that versus the Eagle choke/mirror relocation kit at half > the cost. I'm very happy w/ the stock choke location, not too excited > about having an extra mirror mount & so, may spring for the Heli-Coil > instead. > > Again, thanks for all the responses. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "hansenj32" wrote: > > > > > > In the summer I usually remove my hand guards, replace them in the > fall > > & remove my choke lever when doing so to access the lower left-hand > nut. > > Today as I was replacing the guards, the threads in the switch housing > > for choke lever screw stripped. I was hopping there are extra threads > > beyound the damaged area so I could use a longer screw. But using a > bent > > piece of safety wire tells me there may be one if that. My next stop > was > > to check pricing for a new housing at BikeBandit.com & was none too > > thrilled w/ the price. Then I figured a Heli-Coil should do the trick, > > but in checking around - nobody carries one smaller than 6 mm & I need > > 5. Any suggestions as to who might have thread inserts or Heli-Coils > in > > 5 mm or other ways to repair the damage? > > > > Jake > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

I've read, and can't vouch for the validity thereof, that the waves create more friction against the pads due to the voids and edges passing between the pads.

On 9/18/12 7:03 AM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > Well, I'm a mechanical engineer, with some limited knowledge of fluid > flow, and I would say that a wavy rotor should fade less due to better > cooling due to more turbulent air flow over the rotor. > > It also looks cool. > > Cool. Get it. Cool. > > As long as the material, finish, and area under the pads were the same, > it should stop the same. I'm pretty sure of that too. > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 9/18/2012 6:41 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: >> >> I can't speak out of experience with wavy rotors vs plain in the same >> size, >> but physics can't be ignored. A larger rotor increases the leverage the >> caliper and pad has on the wheel. Look at a Buell front brake. He chose >> that setup over a twin disc, probably for weight savings, and just to be >> different, but it's effective too. >> >> I don't think a wavy rotor is going to do much for a KLR front brake. >> Braided line does have an effect, and good pads. I think other readers >> will >> have more experience with different brands of pads than I do. I find the >> KLR's brakes adequate in stock form. I have other bikes for other >> purposes. >> If the KLR were my only bike I suppose I'd be more concerned about getting >> it to do everything better. It's like a Jeep Wrangler. It's not the >> best at >> anything in stock form but it is still supremely capable when used within >> its design parameters. >> -- >> Ian Francisco >> http://www.scarletfuries.com >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 >> >> Wavy rotors >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/message/206998;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYmpmOTBpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ4ODM4NQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUxMjYyNjIEbXNnSWQDMjA2OTk4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3MDQ0MTM-> >> Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "jwflower53" >> jwflower53 >> ?subject=Re%3A%20Wavy%20rotors> >> Who thinks that, all other things being equal, a wavy rotor stops better >> than a plain circular one? I'd like to maximize front braking without >> adding the weight of oversize rotor/caliper adaptor, dual-piston caliper, >> etc. Added SS line, progressive springs, got some Intiminators but haven't >> installed them. My guess is that the wavy ones look cool but don't stop >> that much cooler or shorter in and of themselves. Don't know if post-07 >> model's front brake differs in anything but the shape of the rotor. >> Experts >> chime in? >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > -- -- Jeff Khoury [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]