enrichener/choke

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spike55_bmw
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enrichener/choke

Post by spike55_bmw » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:06 pm

I already fixed my problem (modified wrench) but others without access to an acetylene torch might be interested. Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > What s it worth to you for me to make you one? > > Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > From: spike55_bmw > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:55 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Enrichener/choke > > > Monty: > It looks like a modified spoke wrench. > > The other thing that would remedy the problem is if the choke cable didn't have that damn metal 90 deg elbow at the carb-end. If it was a flexible cable all the way to the attachment point at the carb, you could better rotate the carb, and easily get the best angle to attach / remove that choke cable for carb removal / installation. > > I'm surprised that the KLR cottage industry hasn't come up with a flexible alternative. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "cycletip" wrote: > > > > Would bet more folks break this piece removing or installing the carb than anytime else. It's one of the more frustrating things for me to hook up after giving the carb it's annual dusch. Like your idea Don but I've got so darn many "special tools" it's hard to find the one I need at the time. > > > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "spike55_bmw" wrote: > > > > > > I recently bought two of the plastic pieces from the local dealer at discount: $9.95 ea. I also found and old metal open-end wrench and my buddy heated it up and we bent it a little. I've since ground down the jaws so I can get the wrench down in around the carb to more easily remove the enricher cable / plastic piece before snapping off another "Cap-Starter Plung" at what could have been $20 ea. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "steve_1953r51" wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know a source for the metal replacement of the plastic thing that connects the enrichener cable to the carb? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

bufbooth
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klr 650 hp

Post by bufbooth » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:58 pm

Hello All, I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it would be. From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc size engine? Thanks, Dennis...

Craig Kahler
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klr 650 hp

Post by Craig Kahler » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:01 am

Dennis, I have been looking for an nx250 to replace the KLR650. What is top speed? Can it keep up with highway traffic without having to hold the throttle wide open? Craig
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, bufbooth wrote: From: bufbooth Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 HP To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 12:57 AM Hello All, I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it would be. From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc size engine? Thanks, Dennis... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
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klr 650 hp

Post by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:17 am

The KLR is built for the long haul not the racetrack. It is not uncommon to have 50, 60, 70,000 miles on them which is pretty good for a single I think. A friend retired his at 83,000 miles. Mine has 54,000 on it and I have been known to ride it back from Chama New Mexico the Dallas / Ft. Worth in the heat of the summer at 80 mph all the wayin one day (750 miles). The engine is fairly torquey which I would rather have than high horsepower numbers anyway. 60 hp would be nice if it was a broad powerband but I wonder if they would last as long. You can also flog the crap out of them on fireroads and even more with no complaints. Horsepower isn't everything. My KLR will beat my 100 hp Concours off the line. The Connie only gets going around 6,000 rpm and the KLR is pretty much finished by then. Harley has sold a lot of bikes because people like it's low rpm torquey engine with mild horsepower. Criswell
On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:57 PM, bufbooth wrote: > Hello All, > > I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. > > The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not > sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it would be. > > From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right > for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My > NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. > > Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc size engine? > > Thanks, > > Dennis... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

cycletip
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klr 650 hp

Post by cycletip » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:45 am

Dennis - IMHO the KLR spec's don't really tell the tail. This bike can do many different things. Street, trail combination of both or anything in-between. My 03 is set up for almost 100% dirt but has plates to allow dual sport capability. I've seen motards, touring rigs and many stock bikes used for commuting purposes. The bike has a substantial feel in that it's size is not too big and not too small. Power isn't that of a multi-cylinder 600. It's a thumper after all. Many of us find the KLR very user friendly to wrench on. Not too complicated. More aftermarket support than you can imagine. Try to ride one and see if it's what you're looking for?
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "bufbooth" wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. > > The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not > sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it would be. > > From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right > for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My > NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. > > Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc size engine? > > Thanks, > > Dennis... >

Jud
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klr 650 hp

Post by Jud » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:37 am

If anything, 37 hp is high. The more accurate figure would be something like 33 on a reliable dyno. Intake, exhaust and jetting won't get you a lot more than that. But horsepower is overrated.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "bufbooth" wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. > > The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not > sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it would be. > > From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right > for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My > NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. > > Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc size engine? > > Thanks, > > Dennis... >

Mike Frey
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klr 650 hp

Post by Mike Frey » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:44 am

Not to mention that HP ratings seen in print can be highly misleading. The NX250 is a good bike, but it doesn't have 26 HP at the rear wheel. Kawasaki's own 250 Super Sherpa, which I have, has also been listed as a 26 HP bike (by Kawasaki) but they don't have anywhere near that much true horsepower - it's more like 20, probably a little less. I had a friend with a late model KLX-250S, bored out to 300cc, jetted and piped, and although he could outrun me up to about 55 mph, the KLR caught up shortly after that. Dennis, I suggest that you find a KLR to ride and then decide if the power is adequate. Most of us KLR owners would like more power, but are generally content with what it's got. We'd like a 6th gear, too. Probably the most desired change would be less weight. Mike Jud wrote:
> > If anything, 37 hp is high. The more accurate figure would be > something like 33 on a reliable dyno. Intake, exhaust and jetting > won't get you a lot more than that. > > But horsepower is overrated. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "bufbooth" wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current > enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. > > > > The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not > > sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it > would be. > > > > From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right > > for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My > > NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the > KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also > the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. > > > > Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc > size engine? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dennis... > > > >

mark ward
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klr 650 hp

Post by mark ward » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:18 pm

6ft (and 1/4inch. have to claim it, my younger brother is 6'6") 250lbs. Bike LOADED!! camping gear, (sleeping bag, mat, tent, ETC., EXTRA tools, some food & water, rain gear, etc.,4000 mile trip, 600 on Xspress ways doing 70+mph, (last 400 mile stretch, hm.) Would you want to do THAT on on the 250??
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Mike Frey wrote: From: Mike Frey Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 HP To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 5:43 PM Not to mention that HP ratings seen in print can be highly misleading. The NX250 is a good bike, but it doesn't have 26 HP at the rear wheel. Kawasaki's own 250 Super Sherpa, which I have, has also been listed as a 26 HP bike (by Kawasaki) but they don't have anywhere near that much true horsepower - it's more like 20, probably a little less. I had a friend with a late model KLX-250S, bored out to 300cc, jetted and piped, and although he could outrun me up to about 55 mph, the KLR caught up shortly after that. Dennis, I suggest that you find a KLR to ride and then decide if the power is adequate. Most of us KLR owners would like more power, but are generally content with what it's got. We'd like a 6th gear, too. Probably the most desired change would be less weight. Mike Jud wrote: > > If anything, 37 hp is high. The more accurate figure would be > something like 33 on a reliable dyno. Intake, exhaust and jetting > won't get you a lot more than that. > > But horsepower is overrated. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "bufbooth" wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have been looking to purchase a KLR650 as an upgrade to my current > enduro, which is a 1990 Honda NX250, which replaced my 1981 Honda XL185s. > > > > The problem that I am having from the specs that I am seeing I am not > > sure the KLR650 will be as much as an upgrade that I thought it > would be. > > > > From what I read the KLR650 only has 37HP, which does not sound right > > for a 650cc or so engine, I was expecting to see 60HP to 65HP. My > > NX250 has a 249cc engine and kicks out 26HP, just 11HP less than the > KLR650, but the NX250 weights about 200lbs less than the KRL650. Also > the NX250 has a 6-speed transmission. > > > > Is the 37HP number correct? If so, why is the HP so low for a 650cc > size engine? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dennis... > > > > ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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