lane splitting 405/san diego fwy; santa rides a red klr!

[Chris Norloff]

I can speak to Virginia and Maryland law -- a licensed vehicle (KLR with plates) is not an OHV, and does not have to meet those requirements. Any unlicensed vehicle -- ATV, dirtbike, KLR without plates, DualSport with a photocopy of a license plate taped to the rear fender -- *is* and OHV. What makes *this* really screwy is in the Greenridge State Forest, Maryland. There's an 18-mile loop of fireroad-quality riding. OHV's need a yearly permit, and can go only in one direction. Licensed vehicles can go in *either* direction. Some of those unlicensed vehicles are ridden/driven like there's no chance of a head-on with a full size pickup or SUV. Oops. Chris Jeff Khoury wrote:

> > > In my reading of the FAQ, they are referring to 2-wheeled OHVs > (off-highway vehicles) needing the permit. A KLR, and any other > tagged street-legal motorcycle is not, by definition, an OHV. > > Here in California, in order to ride your bike you need either: a red- > or green-sticker (OHV) OR a regular DMV street-legal license plate. > Not both. Your M1 license is your proof that you know how to ride it. > > Well, in actuality it means that you are a slow-speed handling ninja > here in California, as they do not test anything else practically. > > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "revmaaatin" > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:24:52 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Lane Splitting 405/San Diego Fwy; SANTA > RIDES A RED KLR! > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , Richard Decker > wrote: > > > > Did some reading on Oregon motorcycle law. > > > > It's not legal here, that stinks. Oh well, I would probably get door > jacked > > by some soccer mom getting mad that I was getting home faster then > she is in > > her 8,000# Suburban. > > > > I also found out I have to pass an ATV course to ride my street > legal bike > > on a dirt road now... g'damn liberals always trying to save us from > > ourselves. Let Darwin do his job (if you believe in that kinda crud...) > > > > Note: That law in Oregon about the ATV course applies to ANYONE > riding in > > Oregon on public land, even if you are from a different state. > > www.rideatvoregon.com > > > > -Rich > > Disappointed in the Portland area. > > > Nonesense. > If I am licensed to ride a motorcycle, I can ride their 'dirt-road'. > ATV permits might be required. > > I hope Judd answers up on this. sic um Judd. > > BTW--my 14y/o son got his cage-learners permit here in SD yesterday. > It is 'legitimate' in all 50 states. and Kalifornia also. > > revmaaatin. > > > >

[spike55_bmw]

Yesterday's New York Times (Dec 22, 2009) has an interesting article about accidents in work zones. It also noted that most 'shovel-ready' projects tend to be road projects, therefore, more work zones will exist and motorists will be exposed to them and their dangers more frequently, which equals more accidents. Some interesting points to think about: many accidents are caused by cars and motorcycles trying to get back over the new / old pavement drop off which might be up to 3" high and then they over correct and wreck; certain projects, and therefore construction companies / paving methods can cause hundreds of accidents during the life of the project; states have increased fines for speeding, killing or injuring highway workers but 85% of those killed in work zones are the motorists themselves; etc. The article is really about the poor federal and state guidelines, standards, procedures, compliance by the contractors, and oversight by everyone, in all cases, and that leads to these dangerous work zones. I bring this up because we, as a motorcyclist, are particularly vulnerable and need to do what we can to save ourselves. Just something to think about for next year for me (snow on the roads and 15 deg tonight). Don R100, A6F