are hid lights worth it?

[The Reverend]

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[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Craig Kahler I want more light. I'm considering an HID head light conversion kit for around $70 and HID fog lamps for around $150. Are they really that much better than a standard head light and $20 Walmart fog lamps? Also, will the KLR handle the added wattage of the fog lights?   Craig Kahler

[Richard Decker]

*** Warning, I may be completely wrong. It's happened before, and it will happen again. *** If I read the law correctly, you gotta have it if you can ride on public lands. It's a stepped program with people under 30 needing one Jan 1 2010. Under 40 in 2011, etc. To ride my KLR offroad, I have to have an ORV sticker on it. Same with my Bronco. The screwy thing is, only class 1 (3&4wheelers) and class 3 (two wheelers) are required to take this. Class 2 (4x4, sandrail, car/truck, etc) are exempt, but you gotta have a license to drive a Class 2. That jack*** that just hit the lotto and got himself a 500hp sand rail doesnt have to take a safety course, but me on my little mule has to take one. Sorry, I'm just ranting and listening to a meeting that I dont want to be in.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Dooden wrote: That sucks to have to take a ATV course to ride on a dirt road ? What about people in cars/trucks think they should have to also take the course... Liberals... please do not wind me up with them idiots. Back home ( Upper Michigan ) the National Forests have all kinds of dirt roads (trails mainly) do not even need a ORV sticker if you have plates, providing a car can also drive on it legally. Of course need the sticker $16.50 yearly (I think) to ride the designated trials. I would be hesitant to lane split myself unless I was in a place where cage drivers know about it and accept it. Nice to be away from the snow for Xmas this year at least, but get forward to riding the 4 wheeler when I fly back, even if its only my driveway and yard plowing that white fluffy crap. Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Richard Decker wrote: > > Did some reading on Oregon motorcycle law. > > It's not legal here, that stinks. Oh well, I would probably get door jacked > by some soccer mom getting mad that I was getting home faster then she is in > her 8,000# Suburban. > > I also found out I have to pass an ATV course to ride my street legal bike > on a dirt road now... g'damn liberals always trying to save us from > ourselves. Let Darwin do his job (if you believe in that kinda crud...) > > Note: That law in Oregon about the ATV course applies to ANYONE riding in > Oregon on public land, even if you are from a different state. > www.rideatvoregon.com > > -Rich > Disappointed in the Portland area. > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dooden wrote: > > > > > > > Ever see that space in between cars that are stopped or moving on the > > highway and think would'nt it be cool to just drive between the cars and > > keep moving ? > > > > "Lane Splitting" they all do it in Cali.. heck had a cop on a Harley caught > > up to us in the HOV lane (special lane for car poolers (2 or more or m/c) > > btw we were exceeding the posted limit, I think is just a suggestion in > > Cali. Anyway he broke the solid line (shame shame) lanesplitted to our right > > passed us at what had to be about 80+ mph, cut back over the solid line > > (shame shame shame) into the HOV and rolled on outta sight. No flashing > > lights, just riding down the 405. > > > > No idea if its legal by you, not legal in most states actually. I did it in > > Florida when I was stationed down there getting onto the base in the > > morning, no idea if it was legal, but all of us on bikes did it, not to > > mention back then m/c could park on the pier near your ship, it was worth it > > getting rained on at 4:35 pm daily. > > > > I actually miss that old KZ400 for some reason, even though it felt > > dangerous at 55 mph ( with not enough snot to pull out and away ) used to > > ride that thing all the time down there, even down the river banks.. > > > > Oh my.. went back through there (405) last night, highway was wonderful at > > almost midnight, exited and headed into LAX and found all the traffic... > > what a cluster F**K !! > > > > Appears to be the same KLR (red with a rack) in the parking garage. > > > > Hope all a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year.. > > > > Dooden > > A15 Green Ape > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>, Richard > > Decker wrote: > > > > > > Pardon my ignorance, but what is this lane-splitting you are talking > > about? > > > And is it legal in Oregon?! Sounds like my Renthal Desert bars may be > > too > > > wide for it? > > > > > > -Rich > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Dooden wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey I actually know where your talking about... Just drove through > > > > there the other day, and headed back Monday night (almost midnight so > > > > traffic should be fairly light) > > > > > > > > Flew into LAX and first m/c I see in the parking garage is a KLR. > > > > > > > > Not that I am adding anything of value to the conversation, just > > thought it > > > > was cool I actually knew the exact spot you were talking about. > > > > > > > > Yes having lived in non-lane splitting places thought the lanes where > > kinda > > > > tight for KLR handlebars but no doubt would do it if I lived out here. > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas ( Even sent a Christmas Card to the ACLU ) > > > > > > > > Dooden > > > > A15 Green Ape > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They finally fixed the 405 fwy between LAX and the 10/Santa Monica > > Fwy. > > > > > There are 5 lines now--2 double yellow and 1 white line between the > > > > Diamond/HOV and the next lane. This makes lane splitting a breeze; even > > for > > > > the KLR650's wide handlebars/compared to a pure street bike. > > > > > > > > > > However. from the 10 to the 101 fwys, the 405 is still pretty > > dangerous > > > > because you don't get the extra room and cagers still seem to really > > hate > > > > motorcycles passing them when they are stuck in traffic. And today > > friday, > > > > boy were they stuck! > > > > > > > > > > Jeffrey #3 > > > > > HAPPY HOLIDAYS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > - > > > Rich Decker > > > > > > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. > > Liberty > > > is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > - > Rich Decker > > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty > is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. >

-- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.