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[Pople, Michael (JUS)]

I've put about 6000km (3750miles) on my '02 since my last oil change. I just noticed the oil gauge isn't showing any oil at all which one presumes means I'm down quite a bit. I haven't seen any sign of leakage so did I burn it? Most of those 6000 km were highway with an average speed of 110km/h (70mph). No other problems with the bike so is this normal or what? (Yes, I realize I should be looking at the oil gauge more often). Thoughts? Mike

[Devon Jarvis]

"Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote: I

> just noticed the oil gauge isn't showing any oil at all which one presumes > means I'm down quite a bit. I haven't seen any sign of leakage so did I > burn it?

It's not uncommon for KLRs to burn oil at high revs. I'm not sure why, but my A15 certainly does this. 65-70mph highway will do it, but woods and trail riding doesn't. BTW no oil on the glass is down a LOT. If the oil gets to the low mark on my KLR the balancer chain gets noisy. It's a good idea, every morning before you start it, just grab the right handgrip and pull the bike level to see if there's oil in it. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[zrod73026]

I'm with Devon, oil should be above the site glass. Stick your pinky in the pipe and see what you come out with. My 03 gives me a little black but also gives me considerable pleasure when I mount her. (why did I name her HOSS then, HMMM) Every one has issues I guess!

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > "Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote: > I > > just noticed the oil gauge isn't showing any oil at all which one presumes > > means I'm down quite a bit. I haven't seen any sign of leakage so did I > > burn it? > > It's not uncommon for KLRs to burn oil at high revs. I'm not > sure why, but my A15 certainly does this. 65-70mph highway > will do it, but woods and trail riding doesn't. > > BTW no oil on the glass is down a LOT. If the oil gets to > the low mark on my KLR the balancer chain gets noisy. > > It's a good idea, every morning before you start it, just > grab the right handgrip and pull the bike level to see if > there's oil in it. > > Devon > > -- > "It's a troublesome world, > all the people who are in it, > are troubled with troubles > almost every minute" > > Dr. Seuss

[kcuf_oohay_666]

Did you use 20w-50 oil? I found that any of the lighter oils tend to get used up faster. I keep my oil above the site glass. My A15 eats alot of oil if I'm doing canyon runs - on and off the throttle alot. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote:

> I've put about 6000km (3750miles) on my '02 since my last oil

change. I

> just noticed the oil gauge isn't showing any oil at all which one

presumes

> means I'm down quite a bit. I haven't seen any sign of leakage so

did I

> burn it? Most of those 6000 km were highway with an average speed

of

> 110km/h (70mph). No other problems with the bike so is this normal

or what?

> (Yes, I realize I should be looking at the oil gauge more often).

Thoughts?

> > Mike

[Chris Krok]

> From: Zachariah Mully > Subject: Re: oil leak > Actually (s)he might not have overfilled it. If you go by the service > manual (as well as the capacity stamped on the side of the engine cases) > the engine takes 2.5L of oil when the filter is changed. When you add > 2.5L of oil, the level *is* above the sight glass.

Just out of curiosity, why does everyone assume that the sight glass is wrong, and not the 2.5l figure? What if the correct oil level in the case was determined "graphically?" i.e., the engine drawings are examined to determine the minimum level of oil required for level and max ascent/decent angles, and the volume back-calculated from there? Just throwing it out there... Krokko

[Devon Jarvis]

Chris Krok wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, why does everyone assume that the sight glass is > wrong, and not the 2.5l figure? What if the correct oil level in the > case was determined "graphically?" i.e., the engine drawings are > examined to determine the minimum level of oil required for level and > max ascent/decent angles, and the volume back-calculated from there? > > Just throwing it out there... >

Because it's stupid and sloppy on KHI's part that the stamp on the case and the sight glass disagree. Too much oil is (most times) less catasatrophic than not enough, that's why I go with the measured amount not the sight glass. Motor runs fine either way. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krok wrote:

> > Just out of curiosity, why does everyone assume that the sight

glass is wrong, and not the 2.5l figure?

> > Krokko underwear.

Can't speak for everybody but the 2.5l indication is repeated more than once and thereis only one sight glass. Mod mentality rules ya know? Woof! dat brookyn bum

[Don Kime]

At 03:13 PM 12/15/03 +0000, wannabsmooth1 wrote:

>The lever is a (or should be) drop in part for your bike. Since the >bearing is shorter, be sure to keep your oil level up, as it's only >splash lubricated.

Mike (and anyone else) this reminded me. I changed oil and filter in an A16. The manual I think says 2.6 quarts w/ oil & filter. I got in about 2.25-2.3 quart, and I am in the middle of the bulls eye. Should I fill to 2.6 or stop where I'm at? TIA & Happy holidays & Ride safe, Don Kime - VFR750F, GL1500SE, GL1100, KLR 650 OH - M/C Safety Instructor/RiderCoach dkime@... http://forums.delphiforums.com/MCTourer/

[Chris]

After draining the bike on a lift and tilting it far over to both sides several times (yielding a lot more oil to drain btw) I put in 2.5 and it's over the sight glass by a bit. I would guess by the rate it was filling that in a relative term it's 1/4" above the top of the sight glass. This isn't much of a linear measurement, just a guestimate from the rate it was filling as I put the 2.5l in. It is approximately the same level the bike had when I bought it too. No problems at all so far.

> At 03:13 PM 12/15/03 +0000, wannabsmooth1 wrote: >>The lever is a (or should be) drop in part for your bike. Since the >>bearing is shorter, be sure to keep your oil level up, as it's only >>splash lubricated. > > Mike (and anyone else) this reminded me. I changed oil and filter in > an > A16. The manual I think says 2.6 quarts w/ oil & filter. I got in > about > 2.25-2.3 quart, and I am in the middle of the bulls eye. Should I > fill to > 2.6 or stop where I'm at? > > TIA & > Happy holidays & > Ride safe, > Don Kime - VFR750F, GL1500SE, GL1100, KLR 650 > OH - M/C Safety Instructor/RiderCoach dkime@... > http://forums.delphiforums.com/MCTourer/ > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[wannabsmooth1]

Don, I keep mine at the top, or just above the top of the window. Since most KLR's use a little oil, I add the factory amount, and that's where it seems to end up. Mike Eagle Mfg & Eng San Diego, Ca.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Kime wrote: > At 03:13 PM 12/15/03 +0000, wannabsmooth1 wrote: > >The lever is a (or should be) drop in part for your bike. Since the > >bearing is shorter, be sure to keep your oil level up, as it's only > >splash lubricated. > > Mike (and anyone else) this reminded me. I changed oil and filter in an > A16. The manual I think says 2.6 quarts w/ oil & filter. I got in about > 2.25-2.3 quart, and I am in the middle of the bulls eye. Should I fill to > 2.6 or stop where I'm at? > > TIA & > Happy holidays & > Ride safe, > Don Kime - VFR750F, GL1500SE, GL1100, KLR 650 > OH - M/C Safety Instructor/RiderCoach dkime@c... > http://forums.delphiforums.com/MCTourer/