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[Stuart Mumford]

Don't be ridiculous. It is well documented that noise is the number one reason for losing riding areasin the United States. If you have a Big Gun Quiet series and keep it freshly packed, you won't fall into the "loud pipe" category. If you fail to repack it after about 1000 miles, you are on the edge of being loud. After 2000 miles without a repack, you will be annoying as hell and may as well get a doo rag. Even blind people hate loud pipes. Thanks CA Stu PS A bike with a stock pipe "cutting across someomeone else's land" would be a hell of a lot likely to be noticed that one with a Big Gun race series.

> -----Original Message----- > Well following that logic a stock bike with aluminum bags cutting > across someone elses land would not be a problem.... just a bike > with a pipe.... sort of strange that you think that its the pipe > that is causing all the problems and not the riders.... or the > way that they ride their stock quiet bikes on paths or land that > is not theirs to ride on.....oh yea... guns don't kill people > ...... people kill people... same logic....... > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jim Bolton > wrote: > > > > > > Why do we always seperate when we should be on the same side ?. > Its strange that as a > > group we like to "Farkle" but yet if someone does something that > someone else doesnt like > > the banter turns on the individual that is doing the changes. > There must be a reason why > > there are things made for the KLR to inprove or add to it. I like > a low rumble on my bike and I > > like the weight loss hence the Big Gun quiet series.. > > > I think that its dam foolish to put aluminum boxs on your bike > to get groceries or to take > > a 2 day trip...its total overkill in my opinion but I would not > give a guy grief cuz he wants to > > do it..... nor would I give a guy crap for putting a centerstand > or a set of warmers or rewiring > > the whole bike....maybe the freedom of choice and the ability and > the money is there to do > > the project..... .so farkle away..... its way to much for me to > keep up with all the other changes > > that people make... Some people have way to much time on their > hands and hence the giving > > of crap for doing things different then them. > > > I hope that god forbid I didnt say something that makes the > whole klr world go ape shit > > about what I said........ I just think that we need to realize > that as a group there will be > > differences and personal touchs to a bike are just > that....PERSONAL TOUCHS.... > > > > Nobody ever wanted to out law motorcycles due to their aluminum > boxes and center stands.

[cdearl1]

I agree with this and would add that for me loud pipes are another manifestation of an ever increasing noise pollution problem. Loud bike and car exhausts. Being surrounded by beeping electronic devices. Low flying helicopters. Phone talkers everywhere. Dogs that keep barking. Gas powered lawn tools and ad nauseam. Just because one has the right doesn't make it "right." It's about being considerate and also about choosing the place, timing and frequency when making noise. Common Courtesy, Let's Bring it Back. Charles Sandy, Utah A-14

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote: > > Don't be ridiculous. > > It is well documented that noise is the number one reason for losing riding > areasin the United States. > > If you have a Big Gun Quiet series and keep it freshly packed, you won't > fall into the "loud pipe" category. If you fail to repack it after about > 1000 miles, you are on the edge of being loud. > After 2000 miles without a repack, you will be annoying as hell and may as > well get a doo rag. > > Even blind people hate loud pipes. > > Thanks > CA Stu > > PS A bike with a stock pipe "cutting across someomeone else's land" would be > a hell of a lot likely to be noticed that one with a Big Gun race series. > > > -----Original Message----- > > Well following that logic a stock bike with aluminum bags cutting > > across someone elses land would not be a problem.... just a bike > > with a pipe.... sort of strange that you think that its the pipe > > that is causing all the problems and not the riders.... or the > > way that they ride their stock quiet bikes on paths or land that > > is not theirs to ride on.....oh yea... guns don't kill people > > ...... people kill people... same logic....... > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jim Bolton > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why do we always seperate when we should be on the same side ?. > > Its strange that as a > > > > group we like to "Farkle" but yet if someone does something that > > someone else doesnt like > > > > the banter turns on the individual that is doing the changes. > > There must be a reason why > > > > there are things made for the KLR to inprove or add to it. I like > > a low rumble on my bike and I > > > > like the weight loss hence the Big Gun quiet series.. > > > > > I think that its dam foolish to put aluminum boxs on your bike > > to get groceries or to take > > > > a 2 day trip...its total overkill in my opinion but I would not > > give a guy grief cuz he wants to > > > > do it..... nor would I give a guy crap for putting a centerstand > > or a set of warmers or rewiring > > > > the whole bike....maybe the freedom of choice and the ability and > > the money is there to do > > > > the project..... .so farkle away..... its way to much for me to > > keep up with all the other changes > > > > that people make... Some people have way to much time on their > > hands and hence the giving > > > > of crap for doing things different then them. > > > > > I hope that god forbid I didnt say something that makes the > > whole klr world go ape shit > > > > about what I said........ I just think that we need to realize > > that as a group there will be > > > > differences and personal touchs to a bike are just > > that....PERSONAL TOUCHS.... > > > > > > > > Nobody ever wanted to out law motorcycles due to their aluminum > > boxes and center stands. >

[Mike Frey]

I can still remember what 2 Veteran (literally, on this Veteran's Day) riders told me back in the early 70s, before I even had my driver's license: "Think of a family having a picnic in their yard, in the park, or just enjoying a quiet afternoon somewhere. 20 motorcycles go past, and they don't notice because they aren't making a lot of noise. Then one with a loud pipe goes by. They notice THAT, and associate all bikes as noise makers." I've had some loud bikes in my life, but those were track bikes. Even then, I would have rather they been quieter than they were. All of my current street legal bikes are ones that I would not hesitate to start up at 2AM and ride away, knowing that it wouldn't bother any neighbors. Mike

[dooden]

> > Common Courtesy, Let's Bring it Back. > > Charles > Sandy, Utah > A-14

Best damn statement I have heard all day. Dooden A15 Green Ape

[Jim Douglas]

Mike Frey wrote:

> > > I can still remember what 2 Veteran (literally, on this Veteran's Day) > riders told me back in the early 70s, before I even had my driver's > license: > > "Think of a family having a picnic in their yard, in the park, or just > enjoying a quiet afternoon somewhere. 20 motorcycles go past, and > they don't notice because they aren't making a lot of noise. Then one > with a loud pipe goes by. They notice THAT, and associate all bikes > as noise makers." > > I've had some loud bikes in my life, but those were track bikes. Even > then, I would have rather they been quieter than they were. All of my > current street legal bikes are ones that I would not hesitate to start up > at 2AM and ride away, knowing that it wouldn't bother any neighbors. > > Mike > >

But if that same family was at a Nascar track on a sunny sunday afternoon.............

[Reverend]

Depends on if it's viral or bacterial.

> -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of nakedwaterskier > > A pneumonica vaccine is available...prevention costs far less > everywhere!