doohicky help

[steventbarnett]

Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized". I never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I getting a load of bull? Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem fine -- but I really hate new noises. Any ideas?

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Don't trust those dealer mechanics. They are trying to keep their doors open ..... and may sometimes not be honest. learn to check things yourself or get involved with groups that have tech days. Criswell whose clutch has 47,000 miles on it.

On May 15, 2008, at 6:18 AM, steventbarnett wrote: > Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? > First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire > change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the > clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized". I > never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much > heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I > getting a load of bull? > Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first > to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem > fine -- but I really hate new noises. > Any ideas? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arden Kysely]

How did the mechanic get a view of the clutch while changing a tire? From the oil hole? I can't imagine he took off the side case, and if he didn't, he didn't see much of the clutch. KLR's have pretty rugged clutches and 10k miles is nothing unless you've been slipping it like crazy at the drag strip or getting stuck in mud/sand a lot. What kind of riding do you do? I'd say if it works fine, leave it alone and take a close look at your oil and oil filter when you change it. You can test it by putting the bike in 5th at 25-30mph or so and gassing it. If the motor revs without much more forward motion, it's slipping; if the bike accelerates or stumbles or stalls, the connection between the tranny and the wheel (the clutch) is good. The first/second gear clunk can be as simple to fix as tightening/lubing the drive chain, topping up the oil, or changing the oil. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "steventbarnett" wrote:

> > Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? > First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire > change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the > clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized". I > never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much > heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I > getting a load of bull? > Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first > to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem > fine -- but I really hate new noises. > Any ideas? >

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "steventbarnett" wrote:

> Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? > First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire > change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the > clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized". I > never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much > heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I > getting a load of bull?

Huh? My clutch plates, when I look in through the top, look brown too. And have looked brown for the past 20,000 miles. My clutch works fine, BTW.

> Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first > to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem > fine -- but I really hate new noises.

It is normal for a KLR tranny to go "thunk" from first to second, this is somewhat oil dependent (it happens more with thicker oils that interfere with the action of the syncros). Did you change the type or viscosity of oil that you use recently? -E

[Wayne Blackburn]

Beware of mechanics changing tires and looking for something else to charge you for. Clutches come in the box brown in color

--- On Thu, 5/15/08, E.L. Green wrote: From: E.L. Green Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Potential clutch and transmission problem? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 1:51 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "steventbarnett" wrote: > Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? > First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire > change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the > clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized" . I > never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much > heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I > getting a load of bull? Huh? My clutch plates, when I look in through the top, look brown too. And have looked brown for the past 20,000 miles. My clutch works fine, BTW. > Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first > to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem > fine -- but I really hate new noises. It is normal for a KLR tranny to go "thunk" from first to second, this is somewhat oil dependent (it happens more with thicker oils that interfere with the action of the syncros). Did you change the type or viscosity of oil that you use recently? -E

[oldrider25]

My clutch friction plates were brown coming out of the bubble wrap! You'll know when you have a clutch problem when it starts slipping like mine did after 37,000 miles. It's not a catastrophic thing. It just starts slipping a little when you pin the throttle and gets progressively worse over time. I've heard of glazed clutch plates. But that's usually something I associate with dry clutches. John --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Blackburn wrote:

> > Beware of mechanics changing tires and looking for something else to

charge you for.

> Clutches come in the box brown in color > > --- On Thu, 5/15/08, E.L. Green wrote: > > From: E.L. Green > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Potential clutch and transmission problem? > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 1:51 PM > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "steventbarnett" > wrote: > > Had two things happen recently that cause me to question? > > First, while my bike (2006 with 10k miles) was in the shop for a tire > > change the mechanic (going over it in general) commented that the > > clutch plates looked too brown and seemed to have "crystalized" . I > > never heard of such a thing, but he said it can happen from too much > > heat or running with too little oil (which it never has). Am I > > getting a load of bull? > > Huh? My clutch plates, when I look in through the top, look brown too. > And have looked brown for the past 20,000 miles. My clutch works fine, > BTW. > > > Second, tranny just started giving me a "thunk" when going from first > > to second. Doesn't seem to miss gears -- and all other gears seem > > fine -- but I really hate new noises. > > It is normal for a KLR tranny to go "thunk" from first to second, this > is somewhat oil dependent (it happens more with thicker oils that > interfere with the action of the syncros). Did you change the type or > viscosity of oil that you use recently? > > -E >

[Jake Wilson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Michael Martin wrote:

> > Here ya go, Jon: > > http://klr6500.tripod.com/doohickey.htm > > Mike Martin, > Louisville, KY >

~~~Nice link Mike. Here's another one for Jon http://klrworld.com/forums/index.php?topic=3183.0 But you have to register @ KLRworld to view Jake Reddick Fla.

> --- jonblak12321 wrote: > > > Can someone direct me to the online source for all that is holy > > concerning the doohicky. I suppose I need to fix it. Is it > > difficult? I am fat and lazy so the easier the better. > > > > >