was windshields now... clean air/dirty air

[Bob Monahan]

As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. Many people piped up and offered that they use earplugs all the time when they ride motorcycles and I have been thinking about that. If I use earplugs I won't be able to use the N-Com part of my helmet and will miss out on the Bluetooth Capabilities. Call me an zoned out old 60's throwback but I get all excited when I think of my Zumo 550 GPS whispering in my ear about when to turn while I'm taking and receiving phone calls while playing Dust in The Wind on the built in MP3 player in the Zumo and all without any wires. Ah the wonders of Bluetooth. Some people opined that they weren't having undue noise so I have been googling about and have come up with the turbulence issue. The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence created by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it very well. I even bought a cheap ($100) SparX helmet (I had borrowed one before and had almost no turbulence noise) to prove to myself that it was the Nolan and almost ALL of the turbulence noise disappeared so.... Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask around to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the factory windshield? http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php? cPath=164&products_id=5400 $bob$ (The Old Hippy)

[traderpro2003]

I'm pretty happy with this setup. I use Shure IC3 headphones (act like earplugs) and Cee Bailey's +7" windshield. The windshield made a huge difference, just make sure if you're really tall get the +10. It's the difference between riding in the back of a convertible or front seats. http://shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/ISeries/us_pa_i3c_co ntent http://www.ceebaileys.com/kawasaki/kawaklr650.html --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > Many people piped up and offered that they use earplugs all the

time

> when they ride motorcycles and I have been thinking about that. > > If I use earplugs I won't be able to use the N-Com part of my

helmet

> and will miss out on the Bluetooth Capabilities. > > Call me an zoned out old 60's throwback but I get all excited when

I

> think of my Zumo 550 GPS whispering in my ear about when to turn > while I'm taking and receiving phone calls while playing Dust in

The

> Wind on the built in MP3 player in the Zumo and all without any > wires. Ah the wonders of Bluetooth. > > Some people opined that they weren't having undue noise so I have > been googling about and have come up with the turbulence issue. > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence

created

> by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it

very

> well. > > I even bought a cheap ($100) SparX helmet (I had borrowed one

before

> and had almost no turbulence noise) to prove to myself that it was > the Nolan and almost ALL of the turbulence noise disappeared so.... > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask

around

> to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the > factory windshield? > > http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php? > cPath=164&products_id=5400 > > $bob$ (The Old Hippy) >

[Dail]

One of these may solve your problem, I use the Laminarlip. http://www.laminarlip.com/klr650.php http://www.turbocity.com/product_info.php?cPath=69_76&products_id=657

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Monahan" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Let's Talk About Windshields for KLRs > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > Many people piped up and offered that they use earplugs all the time > when they ride motorcycles and I have been thinking about that. > > If I use earplugs I won't be able to use the N-Com part of my helmet > and will miss out on the Bluetooth Capabilities. > > Call me an zoned out old 60's throwback but I get all excited when I > think of my Zumo 550 GPS whispering in my ear about when to turn > while I'm taking and receiving phone calls while playing Dust in The > Wind on the built in MP3 player in the Zumo and all without any > wires. Ah the wonders of Bluetooth. > > Some people opined that they weren't having undue noise so I have > been googling about and have come up with the turbulence issue. > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence created > by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it very > well. > > I even bought a cheap ($100) SparX helmet (I had borrowed one before > and had almost no turbulence noise) to prove to myself that it was > the Nolan and almost ALL of the turbulence noise disappeared so.... > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask around > to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the > factory windshield? > > http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.phpcPath=164&products_id=5400 > > $bob$ (The Old Hippy) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 > 10:03 AM > >

[dooden]

Hey there Happy Hippy.... Did ya try just taking the windshield off the bike ? I made a really short one outta a scraped up windshield that I install once and awhile in the summer or when I know I will be offroading alot. (Mostly cause the windshield has hit me in the chin area whilest going vertical up hills) Heck its free to try and see, maybe add a wind jammer like lip on the top edge of the OEM ? Dooden A15 Green APe --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > Many people piped up and offered that they use earplugs all the

time

> when they ride motorcycles and I have been thinking about that. > > If I use earplugs I won't be able to use the N-Com part of my

helmet

> and will miss out on the Bluetooth Capabilities. > > Call me an zoned out old 60's throwback but I get all excited when

I

> think of my Zumo 550 GPS whispering in my ear about when to turn > while I'm taking and receiving phone calls while playing Dust in

The

> Wind on the built in MP3 player in the Zumo and all without any > wires. Ah the wonders of Bluetooth. > > Some people opined that they weren't having undue noise so I have > been googling about and have come up with the turbulence issue. > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence

created

> by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it

very

> well. > > I even bought a cheap ($100) SparX helmet (I had borrowed one

before

> and had almost no turbulence noise) to prove to myself that it was > the Nolan and almost ALL of the turbulence noise disappeared so.... > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask

around

> to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the > factory windshield? > > http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php? > cPath=164&products_id=5400 > > $bob$ (The Old Hippy) >

[Bob Monahan]

Dooden, I had come to the same conclusion earlier this morning and will try to get the time to remove the windshield this weekend and see if it helps. Thanks to all for the links and ideas. I'll try to remember to report back to the list with my findings. Today I install my Zumo 550 and will be playing with that.... HooYah!!! $bob$... The 60's Generation KLR Fanatic _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dooden Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:35 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Let's Talk About Windshields for KLRs Hey there Happy Hippy.... Did ya try just taking the windshield off the bike ? I made a really short one outta a scraped up windshield that I install once and awhile in the summer or when I know I will be offroading alot. (Mostly cause the windshield has hit me in the chin area whilest going vertical up hills) Heck its free to try and see, maybe add a wind jammer like lip on the top edge of the OEM ? Dooden A15 Green APe --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > Many people piped up and offered that they use earplugs all the

time

> when they ride motorcycles and I have been thinking about that. > > If I use earplugs I won't be able to use the N-Com part of my

helmet

> and will miss out on the Bluetooth Capabilities. > > Call me an zoned out old 60's throwback but I get all excited when

I

> think of my Zumo 550 GPS whispering in my ear about when to turn > while I'm taking and receiving phone calls while playing Dust in

The

> Wind on the built in MP3 player in the Zumo and all without any > wires. Ah the wonders of Bluetooth. > > Some people opined that they weren't having undue noise so I have > been googling about and have come up with the turbulence issue. > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence

created

> by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it

very

> well. > > I even bought a cheap ($100) SparX helmet (I had borrowed one

before

> and had almost no turbulence noise) to prove to myself that it was > the Nolan and almost ALL of the turbulence noise disappeared so.... > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask

around

> to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the > factory windshield? > > http://www.whitehor http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?>

sepress.com/product_info.php?

> cPath=164&products_id=5400 > > $bob$ (The Old Hippy) >

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[D Critchley]

I just ordered a nice looking windshield from California Scientific for a 2008 KLR. Choice of two heights and $160 for either. I don't do any offroading, so this is intended strictly for the pavement. They are also designed with a handgrip sized hole at the bottom centre to reduce cavitation. We will see. For the Canadians ordering from these guys, the "Provinces" are at the bottom of the list of "States". DC

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[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. >

SNIP

> > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence

created by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling it very well.

> SNIP > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask

around to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing the factory windshield?

>

Bob, The quick and cheap solution to turbulence is to just remove the stock windshield. Much cleaner airflow at head height. On my cross country trip I ended up installing a Clearview bar-mount windshield to tuck behind in all the lovely weather I got to enjoy. Works really well for that. Still has turbulence when sitting straight though. Windshields are kinda like gloves... really depends on your size how things will fit. FWIW I like the CLearview better than I liked the tall windshield that mounted in the stock location. da Vermonster if I lived in TX I'd just pull the stocker off and call it good...

[Kevin Powers]

If you have an used shield on your helmet, treat yourself to a fresh one, and experiment with the old one to make a windshield for the bike. With some playing around you can find a setting that will give you clean air at helmet height but some protection from the elements. Kevin

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Tumu Rock wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "Bob > Monahan" wrote: > > > > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > > SNIP > > > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence > created by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling > it very well. > > > SNIP > > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask > around to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing > the factory windshield? > > > > Bob, > > The quick and cheap solution to turbulence is to just remove the stock > windshield. Much cleaner airflow at head height. On my cross country > trip I ended up installing a Clearview bar-mount windshield to tuck > behind in all the lovely weather I got to enjoy. Works really well > for that. Still has turbulence when sitting straight though. > Windshields are kinda like gloves... really depends on your size how > things will fit. FWIW I like the CLearview better than I liked the > tall windshield that mounted in the stock location. > > da Vermonster > > if I lived in TX I'd just pull the stocker off and call it good... > > > -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

What I did was to buy a scraped up w/s off ebay, cut it short, covered with rubberized undercoating and bolted to stock mount holes, seemed to keep the fairing from getting to buzzy. Then I got the idea to take the top part I cut off and add some heavy velcro to it and to the piece on the fairing, now I can take the recurved lip and stick it behind the shorty and still get that upturn of air stream. Photo in the "Files" section under my nickname "dooden" Normally in cooler weather I just leave the stock w/s on it. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tumu Rock" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote: > > > > As some of you may remember I bought a Nolan N102 N-Com helmet and > > the wind noise in it is unbearable without ear plugs even at 40mph. > > > SNIP > > > > The noise I'm experiencing seems to be due to wind turbulence > created by the factory windshield and the Nolan helmet isn't handling > it very well. > > > SNIP > > > Rather than give up my "groovy" Nolan helmet I thought I'd ask > around to see if anyone else has solved turbulence issues by replacing > the factory windshield? > > > > Bob, > > The quick and cheap solution to turbulence is to just remove the stock > windshield. Much cleaner airflow at head height. On my cross country > trip I ended up installing a Clearview bar-mount windshield to tuck > behind in all the lovely weather I got to enjoy. Works really well > for that. Still has turbulence when sitting straight though. > Windshields are kinda like gloves... really depends on your size how > things will fit. FWIW I like the CLearview better than I liked the > tall windshield that mounted in the stock location. > > da Vermonster > > if I lived in TX I'd just pull the stocker off and call it good... >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> Can someone please tell me why the KLR windshield causes so much wind > turbulence and what Kawasaki was attempting to accomplish making it > like they have? >

If you want to get quiet air behind a windscreen, you have to get your face closer to the screen, or vice versa. A bar-mounted screen will sit closer to your face, increasing the chance that you will find a pocket of relatively still air. These screens are often shaped like the proverbial barn door, and no doubt create more turbulence than the KLR screen; it just happens behind you where you can't hear or feel it.