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[revmaaatin]

Those that have made the trip to Prudhoe Bay: 1)What tires/tubes (brands) did you use 2)how many miles did you get from the F/R tire 3)how satisfied were you with that choice 4)what day did you leave the US going N revmaaatin

[Don Montgomery]

Rev , did the trip from Cutbank MT. last Aug,.Trailered to there from Atlanta, GA.

> Those that have made the trip to Prudhoe Bay: > 1)What tires/tubes (brands) did you use

Mileage on trip was ~5200 miles. F&R = Slipsters - Front lasted entire trip, got spooked by wear rate on rear & replaced it at ~ 4500 miles into trip. Probably would have made it in hind sight. Freds HD tubes & Ride On, no issues there. Rode these tubes, front Slipster and replacement rear on Tran Labrador trip this year, ~ 2600. Front is still looking right servicable. Our riding group think is that airing down for gravel accelerated the wear on the rear. We honked along, which will speed up the 'go away' factor as well.

> 2)how many miles did you get from the F/R tire

see above

> 3)how satisfied were you with that choice

Worked for me, don't have experience with a more off road tread/tire, never fell down, and there are some slippery spots

> 4)what day did you leave the US going N

Trip was Aug 14 - Sept 1, arrived back home Sept 3, Day before Labor Day. Can send you daily itenerary, if interested. Don M

[Charles Earl]

Rev. Earl, I once did an ~8000 mile Alaska trip on one set of Gripsters (new at start). Gripsters last a long time; how long one might ask? Well, on another trip, at the start in Santa Cruz, CA, I pulled-off used TKC-80's and dusted-off and remounted the afore mentioned Gripsters. I rode to Seattle. ~1000 miles. Pulled the Gripsters (not done with them yet), mounted the new TKC-80's I had UPS'd to my brother's house and rode to Alaska. I again mounted a new rear TKC-80 I had UPS'd to myself General Delivery in Fairbanks. With a little more than 4000 miles on it, the new in Seattle rear TKC was pretty hammered, the Dempster Highway had a lot to do with that. It still had a little meat left on it and was pretty squared-off. I left it in the garage at Carmen's B and B in Fairbanks, it's probably still there and it's yours if you need it (Ken and Carmen, the owners, are great. I recommend their place, they also allowed me to keep my bike/gear in garage and change my tire there). I rode up to Deadhorse and back to Fairbanks and then all the way back to Seattle. Upon arrival, the front TKC was toast. It had worn badly and every other lug was badly worn. My front wheel felt like it was a square for the last thousand or so miles. Back in Seattle, I removed the fryed front TKC (~8000 miles) and _remounted the same front Gripster_ I had left at my brother's house. The rear Gripster was now badly worn, ~9000 miles, I ceremoniously tossed-it and the front TKC in the recycle facility and watched a giant bulldozer run over them. I rode home with a squared-off TKC on the rear (about 4800 miles on arrival, still usable) and the seemingly indestructible front AM-24, which saw ~10000 miles when I reached Santa Cruz. It _still_ had a little tread on it, but I laid it to rest permanantly. I was very satisfied with my choices. The Gripsters were mostly great on the first trip, but sucked when I rode in mud, deeper gravel and snow (it snowed on Iskut Pass on the Cassier). The TKC's were great, excellent traction and decent highway manners. They inspired alot of confidence on the Dempster and Dalton. Only problem was how the front wore unevenly. FWIW, I ran fairly high pressures when the road was smooth. I will probably use them again for the same trip. Personally, if I weren't doing the Dempster, Dalton or Campbell Highways, I'd just go with the Gripsters and call it a day on tire changing. Generally speaking, you don't need aggressive tires on the Cassier/Top of the World highways. Often, the construction areas can be the worst surfaces. Departure dates: earlier trip June 22nd, last KLR trip July 16th. Last summer, my girlfriend accompanied me up to Alaska. Instead of making her riding 2-up (not on a klr for a trip of this magnitude), we took my '83 VW Westfalia (Michelin Agilis 81 8-ply rated tires, best I've ever used on my camper). It was awesome. Instead of being minimalist, I lost my mind going fishing, clamming, backpacking and stuff. Ran into Tom and Laura Grenon in Watson Lake (KLR650 and DRZ40) and we got to hang-out and camp. They were going to continue south to Costa. I'll probably make the run up to Prudhoe on the KLR next summer. Have fun when you go up there. Charles A-14 http://dualsportmotorcycling.com/ --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > Those that have made the trip to Prudhoe Bay: > 1)What tires/tubes (brands) did you use > 2)how many miles did you get from the F/R tire > 3)how satisfied were you with that choice > 4)what day did you leave the US going N > > revmaaatin

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote:

> > Rev. Earl, > > I once did an ~8000 mile Alaska trip on one set of > Gripsters (new at start). Gripsters last a long time; > how long one might ask? Well, on another trip, at the > start in Santa Cruz, CA, I pulled-off used TKC-80's > and dusted-off and remounted the afore mentioned > Gripsters. I rode to Seattle. ~1000 miles. Pulled the > Gripsters (not done with them yet), mounted the new > TKC-80's I had UPS'd to my brother's house and rode to > Alaska. > > I again mounted a new rear TKC-80 I had UPS'd to > myself General Delivery in Fairbanks. With a little > more than 4000 miles on it, the new in Seattle rear > TKC was pretty hammered, the Dempster Highway had a > lot to do with that. It still had a little meat left > on it and was pretty squared-off. I left it in the > garage at Carmen's B and B in Fairbanks, it's probably > still there and it's yours if you need it (Ken and > Carmen, the owners, are great. I recommend their > place, they also allowed me to keep my bike/gear in > garage and change my tire there). I rode up to > Deadhorse and back to Fairbanks and then all the way > back to Seattle. Upon arrival, the front TKC was > toast. It had worn badly and every other lug was badly > worn. My front wheel felt like it was a square for the > last thousand or so miles. > > Back in Seattle, I removed the fryed front TKC (~8000 > miles) and _remounted the same front Gripster_ I had > left at my brother's house. The rear Gripster was now > badly worn, ~9000 miles, I ceremoniously tossed-it and > the front TKC in the recycle facility and watched a > giant bulldozer run over them. > > I rode home with a squared-off TKC on the rear (about > 4800 miles on arrival, still usable) and the seemingly > indestructible front AM-24, which saw ~10000 miles > when I reached Santa Cruz. It _still_ had a little > tread on it, but I laid it to rest permanantly. > > I was very satisfied with my choices. The Gripsters > were mostly great on the first trip, but sucked when I > rode in mud, deeper gravel and snow (it snowed on > Iskut Pass on the Cassier). The TKC's were great, > excellent traction and decent highway manners. They > inspired alot of confidence on the Dempster and > Dalton. Only problem was how the front wore unevenly. > FWIW, I ran fairly high pressures when the road was > smooth. I will probably use them again for the same > trip. Personally, if I weren't doing the Dempster, > Dalton or Campbell Highways, I'd just go with the > Gripsters and call it a day on tire changing. > Generally speaking, you don't need aggressive tires on > the Cassier/Top of the World highways. Often, the > construction areas can be the worst surfaces. > > Departure dates: earlier trip June 22nd, last KLR trip > July 16th. > > Last summer, my girlfriend accompanied me up to > Alaska. Instead of making her riding 2-up (not on a > klr for a trip of this magnitude), we took my '83 VW > Westfalia (Michelin Agilis 81 8-ply rated tires, best > I've ever used on my camper). It was awesome. Instead > of being minimalist, I lost my mind going fishing, > clamming, backpacking and stuff. Ran into Tom and > Laura Grenon in Watson Lake (KLR650 and DRZ40) and we > got to hang-out and camp. They were going to continue > south to Costa. I'll probably make the run up to > Prudhoe on the KLR next summer. > > Have fun when you go up there. > > Charles > A-14 > http://dualsportmotorcycling.com/ >

Wow, You did some tire juggling! and had a nice ride. I tired to Mapquest the route to Prudhoe Bay, and it does not recognize it as a 'road- available' destination. shrug. Any problems with the General Delivery to Fairbanks with the tires? How many days will they keep them before they become a problem to the post office? revmaaatin.

[Jud Jones]

Are you guys related? -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote: > > > > Rev. Earl, > >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> > Are you guys related? > > -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote: > > > > > > Rev. Earl, > > > >

I believe we certainly most related! We both have Visa cards that are direct descendents of Arrowhead Motorsports. It is undetermined if we are 'blood' related, but certainly kindred spirits. revmaaatin.

[cdearl1]

Hey Rev, UPS General Delivery to Fairbanks worked good. I had SW Moto Tires ship it direct, something like $40. shipping. The facility had more limited hours than what I'm used to down here. When I showed-up, it was looking grim for a while. After waiting for the office to open up 30 minutes late, and waiting a very long time in line, the counter guy came back with my ticket and said the tire wasn't here. He didn't want to look again and had no suggestions. That wasn't going to fly. I let him know that it was confirmed as arrived and that he needed to check again. On a whim, I told him that it might be completely enclosed in a box, knowing that tires are often shipped wrapped in plastic and cardboard and are visible. Then he found it, he had been convinced that he would see a tire, instead of using the numbers on the ticket and looking for a box that matched. I can't exactly recall how many days they were going to hold it, but I know I wouldn't have done it without at least a 10-day window. I believe it was more like 15-25 days. Cheers, Charles

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote: > > > > Rev. Earl, > > > > I once did an ~8000 mile Alaska trip on one set of > > Gripsters (new at start). Gripsters last a long time; > > how long one might ask? Well, on another trip, at the > > start in Santa Cruz, CA, I pulled-off used TKC-80's > > and dusted-off and remounted the afore mentioned > > Gripsters. I rode to Seattle. ~1000 miles. Pulled the > > Gripsters (not done with them yet), mounted the new > > TKC-80's I had UPS'd to my brother's house and rode to > > Alaska. > > > > I again mounted a new rear TKC-80 I had UPS'd to > > myself General Delivery in Fairbanks. With a little > > more than 4000 miles on it, the new in Seattle rear > > TKC was pretty hammered, the Dempster Highway had a > > lot to do with that. It still had a little meat left > > on it and was pretty squared-off. I left it in the > > garage at Carmen's B and B in Fairbanks, it's probably > > still there and it's yours if you need it (Ken and > > Carmen, the owners, are great. I recommend their > > place, they also allowed me to keep my bike/gear in > > garage and change my tire there). I rode up to > > Deadhorse and back to Fairbanks and then all the way > > back to Seattle. Upon arrival, the front TKC was > > toast. It had worn badly and every other lug was badly > > worn. My front wheel felt like it was a square for the > > last thousand or so miles. > > > > Back in Seattle, I removed the fryed front TKC (~8000 > > miles) and _remounted the same front Gripster_ I had > > left at my brother's house. The rear Gripster was now > > badly worn, ~9000 miles, I ceremoniously tossed-it and > > the front TKC in the recycle facility and watched a > > giant bulldozer run over them. > > > > I rode home with a squared-off TKC on the rear (about > > 4800 miles on arrival, still usable) and the seemingly > > indestructible front AM-24, which saw ~10000 miles > > when I reached Santa Cruz. It _still_ had a little > > tread on it, but I laid it to rest permanantly. > > > > I was very satisfied with my choices. The Gripsters > > were mostly great on the first trip, but sucked when I > > rode in mud, deeper gravel and snow (it snowed on > > Iskut Pass on the Cassier). The TKC's were great, > > excellent traction and decent highway manners. They > > inspired alot of confidence on the Dempster and > > Dalton. Only problem was how the front wore unevenly. > > FWIW, I ran fairly high pressures when the road was > > smooth. I will probably use them again for the same > > trip. Personally, if I weren't doing the Dempster, > > Dalton or Campbell Highways, I'd just go with the > > Gripsters and call it a day on tire changing. > > Generally speaking, you don't need aggressive tires on > > the Cassier/Top of the World highways. Often, the > > construction areas can be the worst surfaces. > > > > Departure dates: earlier trip June 22nd, last KLR trip > > July 16th. > > > > Last summer, my girlfriend accompanied me up to > > Alaska. Instead of making her riding 2-up (not on a > > klr for a trip of this magnitude), we took my '83 VW > > Westfalia (Michelin Agilis 81 8-ply rated tires, best > > I've ever used on my camper). It was awesome. Instead > > of being minimalist, I lost my mind going fishing, > > clamming, backpacking and stuff. Ran into Tom and > > Laura Grenon in Watson Lake (KLR650 and DRZ40) and we > > got to hang-out and camp. They were going to continue > > south to Costa. I'll probably make the run up to > > Prudhoe on the KLR next summer. > > > > Have fun when you go up there. > > > > Charles > > A-14 > > http://dualsportmotorcycling.com/ > > > Wow, > You did some tire juggling! and had a nice ride. I tired to Mapquest > the route to Prudhoe Bay, and it does not recognize it as a 'road- > available' destination. shrug. > > Any problems with the General Delivery to Fairbanks with the tires? > How many days will they keep them before they become a problem to the > post office? > > revmaaatin. >

[cdearl1]

We are all related by the mighty KLR! You never know, we might really be related somewhere along the line Charles

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > Are you guys related? > > > > -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles Earl wrote: > > > > > > > > Rev. Earl, > > > > > > > I believe we certainly most related! We both have Visa cards that are > direct descendents of Arrowhead Motorsports. > > It is undetermined if we are 'blood' related, but certainly kindred > spirits. > revmaaatin. >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cdearl1" wrote:

> > > Hey Rev, UPS General Delivery to Fairbanks worked good. I had SW

Moto Tires ship it

> direct, something like $40. shipping. The facility had more limited

hours than what I'm

> used to down here. When I showed-up, it was looking grim for a

while. After waiting for

> the office to open up 30 minutes late, and waiting a very long time

in line, the counter guy

> came back with my ticket and said the tire wasn't here. He didn't

want to look again and

> had no suggestions. That wasn't going to fly. I let him know that

it was confirmed as

> arrived and that he needed to check again. On a whim, I told him

that it might be

> completely enclosed in a box, knowing that tires are often shipped

wrapped in plastic and

> cardboard and are visible. Then he found it, he had been convinced

that he would see a

> tire, instead of using the numbers on the ticket and looking for a

box that matched.

> > I can't exactly recall how many days they were going to hold it,

but I know I wouldn't have

> done it without at least a 10-day window. I believe it was more

like 15-25 days.

> > Cheers, > > Charles >

Charles, That is good advice on how to 'help' the clerk do their job. I am guessing that you had that confirmation, before you left CA? revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cdearl1" wrote:

> > > Hey Rev, UPS General Delivery to Fairbanks worked good. I had SW Moto

Tires ship it

> direct, something like $40. shipping.

Charles, Was it UPS or USPS that you used for general delivery? revmaaatin.