digest number 7654

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:59 AM, E Hines wrote:

> HID is not legal in the United States. If you check on the HID > site it even says it is for off-road only.

Almost. HID *is* legal, but the lighting system (reflector and lens) has to be designed for the HID capsule. It is illegal to simply replace a standard bulb (like a halogen H4) with an HID capsule in an on-road vehicle, but it is not illegal to install a whole HID system (capsule, reflector and lens) that is DOT approved. Of course, the legal way is a lot more expensive. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA)

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Blake Sobiloff wrote:

> > On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:59 AM, E Hines wrote: > > HID is not legal in the United States. If you check on the HID > > site it even says it is for off-road only. > > Almost. HID *is* legal, but the lighting system (reflector

and

> lens) has to be designed for the HID capsule. It is illegal to > simply replace a standard bulb (like a halogen H4) with an HID > capsule in an on-road vehicle, but it is not illegal to install a > whole HID system (capsule, reflector and lens) that is DOT

approved. It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road motorcycle (oops, everybody with their IMS gas tank needs to get rid of it and replace it with a steel one!), have an LED tail light module rather than a proper DOT-approved bulb, disable the safety switches on your kickstand or clutch lever (violates DOT safety regs, y'know) or detonate a nuclear device within the city limits of Chico, California ($500 fine if you do that -- yes, this is an actual law!). Frankly, I'm more worried about technical limitations than what the law says. Thus far, the cheapest HID conversion I found is this one, which is probably a Chinese model sold by a Canadian web site: http://cqlight.ca/product_info.php?cPath=91_92&products_id=113 But that capsule looks mighty long. Whether it actually fits in the rather abbreviated KLR housing is a mystery to me... _E

[Matt Knowles]

On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote:

> It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road > motorcycle

You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several other manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM equipment. Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Matt Knowles wrote:

> On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote: > > > It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road > > motorcycle > > You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several other > manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM equipment.

You best check that out, eh? Could it be that the gas tank is part of the emissions system and thus under emissions laws it's illegal to change it for a non-certified aftermarket tank? Or could it be that gas tanks must meet certain DOT safety standards for penetration resistance, spill resistance, and so forth, and Triumph has gotten their tank certified to those standards, but the aftermarket vendors haven't? I'm sure that IMS Acerbis etc. post those "for offroad use only" disclaimers on their websites for fun, rather than because it's illegal to use their tanks on the highway. They do it because they want to drive potential customers away, not because it's illegal to use their tanks on the highway. Yeah, that's it! They hate making money! Uh, yeah right... Needless to say, I'm *not* getting rid of my IMS tank, regardless of what the law says. Not DOT certified? Not EPA certified? Whatever. _E

[Devon Jarvis]

I feel your pain. Running the motor for a few minutes won't really empty the bowl. Easiest thing to do, is top up the tank and treat it with Stabil. Then, put a basin under the bowl drain hose, open the drain, and allow the bowl to drain out completely. A surprising amount of fuel might come out since it will also drain the fuel line. Devon

On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:46 AM, DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > i fractured my right leg in 3 places last night riding my > recumbent bicycle. going to see a specialist this morning. > > tom > sw pennsylvania > Brooklyn '78 SR500 '01 KL250 Super Sherpa

[Me]

Just an FYI: My stock tank on my Jeep Wrangler is plastic (they have been for a few years at least). So I would assume plastic is an ok material to have on a vehicle for a gas tank --- "E.L. Green" wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Matt Knowles > wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote: > > > > > It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your > on-road > > > motorcycle > > > > You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several > other > > manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM > equipment. > > You best check that out, eh? Could it be that the gas > tank is part of > the emissions system and thus under emissions laws it's > illegal to > change it for a non-certified aftermarket tank? Or could > it be that > gas tanks must meet certain DOT safety standards for > penetration > resistance, spill resistance, and so forth, and Triumph > has gotten > their tank certified to those standards, but the > aftermarket vendors > haven't? I'm sure that IMS Acerbis etc. post those "for > offroad use > only" disclaimers on their websites for fun, rather than > because it's > illegal to use their tanks on the highway. They do it > because they > want to drive potential customers away, not because it's > illegal to > use their tanks on the highway. Yeah, that's it! They > hate making > money! Uh, yeah right... > > Needless to say, I'm *not* getting rid of my IMS tank, > regardless of > what the law says. Not DOT certified? Not EPA certified? > Whatever. > > _E > > > >

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