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[clearprop5]

I am building up a second set of wheels dedicated for knobs only. I would like to go to a larger rear sprocket to get a lower gearing without changing the front sprocket. Quick and easy. Does anyone know what rear sprocket will get me the same or close to the same ration as if I went to the 14 tooth front? Also, what is the max sized rear sprocket I can use without the chain becoming too short? Any help would be great. Mike

[Rick McCauley]

Usually 3 or 4 teeth added to the back will do the trick. Doing the math shows that a 46 tooth sprocket in the back is the same as a 14 in front. Don't know if stock chain will go that far. If not, just get 2 master links and a center link to keep with the knobby wheel setup and add them when you make the swap. Rick A17 clearprop5 wrote: I am building up a second set of wheels dedicated for knobs only. I would like to go to a larger rear sprocket to get a lower gearing without changing the front sprocket. Quick and easy. Does anyone know what rear sprocket will get me the same or close to the same ration as if I went to the 14 tooth front? Also, what is the max sized rear sprocket I can use without the chain becoming too short? Any help would be great. Mike --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Walter Mitty]

To get about the same gearing as a 14/43 you would need a 46T rear. Rule of thumb is that you can go up two without lengthening the chain. You will probably have to try it and see. clearprop5 wrote:I am building up a second set of wheels dedicated for knobs only. I would like to go to a larger rear sprocket to get a lower gearing without changing the front sprocket. Quick and easy. Does anyone know what rear sprocket will get me the same or close to the same ration as if I went to the 14 tooth front? Also, what is the max sized rear sprocket I can use without the chain becoming too short? Any help would be great. Mike Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bob Palin]

I imagine the purpose of not changing the front sprocket is so that the change of wheels can be done quickly with little fuss, so inserting and removing master links isn't going to work. How about one less tooth on the front permanently and a few less on the rear for the street version? Probably going to have to compromise on either the dirt or street setup to make this work with the same chain. Bob Palin Torrey UT

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > Usually 3 or 4 teeth added to the back will do the trick. Doing the math shows that a 46 tooth sprocket in the back is the same as a 14 in front. Don't know if stock chain will go that far. If not, just get 2 master links and a center link to keep with the knobby wheel setup and add them when you make the swap. > > Rick > A17 > > clearprop5 wrote: > I am building up a second set of wheels dedicated for knobs only. I > would like to go to a larger rear sprocket to get a lower gearing > without changing the front sprocket. Quick and easy. Does anyone know > what rear sprocket will get me the same or close to the same ration as > if I went to the 14 tooth front? Also, what is the max sized rear > sprocket I can use without the chain becoming too short? Any help > would be great. > Mike > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Rick McCauley]

Considering you are changing the back wheel, I hardly consider adding a master link as much of a fuss. Rick A17 Bob Palin wrote: I imagine the purpose of not changing the front sprocket is so that the change of wheels can be done quickly with little fuss, so inserting and removing master links isn't going to work. How about one less tooth on the front permanently and a few less on the rear for the street version? Probably going to have to compromise on either the dirt or street setup to make this work with the same chain. Bob Palin Torrey UT

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > Usually 3 or 4 teeth added to the back will do the trick. Doing the math shows that a 46 tooth sprocket in the back is the same as a 14 in front. Don't know if stock chain will go that far. If not, just get 2 master links and a center link to keep with the knobby wheel setup and add them when you make the swap. > > Rick > A17 > > clearprop5 wrote: > I am building up a second set of wheels dedicated for knobs only. I > would like to go to a larger rear sprocket to get a lower gearing > without changing the front sprocket. Quick and easy. Does anyone know > what rear sprocket will get me the same or close to the same ration as > if I went to the 14 tooth front? Also, what is the max sized rear > sprocket I can use without the chain becoming too short? Any help > would be great. > Mike > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[clearprop5]

The master link idea sounds great. I think I would rather do that than changing the front sprocket every time. But one question. I am also going to replace my chain. The old one is getting, well....old. I am looking at chains. I don't mind having master links in my chain. But here is the dumb question. I have never had a motorcycle chain with a master link. Is this just as easy to change as a bicycle master link. I read something about needing special tools. True or False. Any chain brand preferences? BTW, thanks to everyone that took the time to respond to my gear questions. Mike

[Fred Hink]

All aftermarket chains will come with a connector link. Some use a clip type master link and others will use a rivet type. All master links now use a press fit side plate that will need a special press tool or some vice grips if you are careful to install. A rivet type connector link can only be used once. I would not reuse a clip type connector more than a few times. The DiD VM series is a good strong long lasting chain. The RK XSO is a good medium priced chain and the Bikemaster o-ring chain is a good value for a cheaper chain. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "clearprop5" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Rear Sprocket sizes > The master link idea sounds great. I think I would rather do that than > changing the front sprocket every time. But one question. I am also > going to replace my chain. The old one is getting, well....old. I am > looking at chains. I don't mind having master links in my chain. But > here is the dumb question. I have never had a motorcycle chain with a > master link. Is this just as easy to change as a bicycle master link. > I read something about needing special tools. True or False. Any chain > brand preferences? > BTW, thanks to everyone that took the time to respond to my gear > questions. > Mike > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Scott Critchfield]

Rats! I only live about 8 miles from the meeting place, but I have to work that day. Perhaps another time...? Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of RM Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:51 PM To: socaldualsport@yahoogroups.com Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR - SoCal listers - Cajon Pass/Lytle Creek Ride on Saturday the 12th... ...just a reminder. I-15, Sierra exit, Shell station, 10:00AM. No particular agenda, just farting around in the Cajon Pass area. Maybe some Cleghorn. Special invitation to newbies. Fast guys might be bored. RM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[Scott Critchfield]

Hi Fred, I have a Sidewinder on order for my Gas Gas. What do you think about this brand applied to the KLR? Cheers, Scott -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Fred Hink Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:45 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; clearprop5 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Rear Sprocket sizes All aftermarket chains will come with a connector link. Some use a clip type master link and others will use a rivet type. All master links now use a press fit side plate that will need a special press tool or some vice grips if you are careful to install. A rivet type connector link can only be used once. I would not reuse a clip type connector more than a few times. The DiD VM series is a good strong long lasting chain. The RK XSO is a good medium priced chain and the Bikemaster o-ring chain is a good value for a cheaper chain. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "clearprop5" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Rear Sprocket sizes > The master link idea sounds great. I think I would rather do that than > changing the front sprocket every time. But one question. I am also > going to replace my chain. The old one is getting, well....old. I am > looking at chains. I don't mind having master links in my chain. But > here is the dumb question. I have never had a motorcycle chain with a > master link. Is this just as easy to change as a bicycle master link. > I read something about needing special tools. True or False. Any chain > brand preferences? > BTW, thanks to everyone that took the time to respond to my gear > questions. > Mike > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links