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[Mike Peplinski]

This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not interested, stop here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is great but JC almighty, theres a billion bikes out there. About 10% of them wave, a few more think about it but are afraid to start a "relationship" and the rest are either stuck up, don't care or don't know about it. I don't need to have a mini-bonding experience with every rider out there. Second, I picked the KLR because of its reverse individuality. In a crowd of bikes, this one is virtually invisible. I like it that way. I don't need tattoos, earings or piercings, cowboy hats or loud shirts (or loud pipes) to get attention when I'm riding. I like to be left alone. Me, the road the bike. Why do I want to wave? iOn a nice weekend day, it's a lesson in one hand riding. If these guys want to socialize, I'm the first to jump on the gab wagon. I've been kicked out of gas stations for tying up the pumps but that's another story. I love to meet bikers and talk bike but this wave thing is nothing but an inconvenience. When I started cycling about 3 eons ago, damn near in the "Wild One" era, it really was a group thing and waving was cool but now it's downright dangerous. How do you wave to a stream of 15 passing friendlies? Then there is the concentration thing. I focus about 100 % on my riding. I like to have long thought processes on the road. I don't like to see an oncoming rider, have to make a decision do I ave or not. If he doesn't return it, I'm snubbed. I feel bad. If I don't even get started, I don't have to worry about it. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but what the hell, that's what its all about. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

[John S Harper]

Nice rant. I wave when the mood strikes. It can break up the boredom on a long straight stretch. I see it kind of like saying hi or nodding to someone you don't know that you meet walking down the hall at work. Just being friendly. Completely unneccessary, though. "Mike Peplinski" on 07/23/2004 08:49:33 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject: [DSN_klr650] "The Wave" This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not interested, stop here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is great but JC almighty, theres a billion bikes out there. About 10% of them wave, a few more think about it but are afraid to start a "relationship" and the rest are either stuck up, don't care or don't know about it. I don't need to have a mini-bonding experience with every rider out there. Second, I picked the KLR because of its reverse individuality. In a crowd of bikes, this one is virtually invisible. I like it that way. I don't need tattoos, earings or piercings, cowboy hats or loud shirts (or loud pipes) to get attention when I'm riding. I like to be left alone. Me, the road the bike. Why do I want to wave? iOn a nice weekend day, it's a lesson in one hand riding. If these guys want to socialize, I'm the first to jump on the gab wagon. I've been kicked out of gas stations for tying up the pumps but that's another story. I love to meet bikers and talk bike but this wave thing is nothing but an inconvenience. When I started cycling about 3 eons ago, damn near in the "Wild One" era, it really was a group thing and waving was cool but now it's downright dangerous. How do you wave to a stream of 15 passing friendlies? Then there is the concentration thing. I focus about 100 % on my riding. I like to have long thought processes on the road. I don't like to see an oncoming rider, have to make a decision do I ave or not. If he doesn't return it, I'm snubbed. I feel bad. If I don't even get started, I don't have to worry about it. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but what the hell, that's what its all about. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not interested,

stop

> here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is

great but JC

> almighty, theres a billion bikes out there.

While I agree that this waving stuff gets a little nuts (especially all the discussion about it on any motorcycle board), and though I don't always wave and don't really give a damn if someone does or doesn't wave back, what I really like about waving is that is the way it differentiates the motorcycles from the car people in a public setting visible to all. Basically what I am trying to say is that it shows that bike people, in addition to slipping through traffic quickly and saving lots of gas (while also having fun) are way cooler than car people, who are stuck in their metal boxes insulated from everything going on around them. Cars are simply uncool. When do you see car drivers wave to each other in traffic? Small towns in country don't count, everyone waves out there.

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

A guy on a sport bike of some kind passed me going the other direction a month or two ago. He must have a throttle lock because he did a wave that I thought was very cool; it started out as just a raised right arm (kind of like an old fashion out-the-window turn signal) but turned into a salute at the end. I thought - and still do - that it was quite slick. Mark --------------------------------------- KLR650 Motorcycle Website: http://klr6500.tripod.com/

[Guest]

I give the obligatory "nod" to every motorcyclist I pass. Here in the Denver area the HD and Euro boys seem to be the least likely to wave or nod back, lol not that it matters really either way. The crotch rockets and other DS'ers seem to be the most friendly. Even the Euro DS'ers are very friendly. But hey what can you expect with all the riding we have in our backyard? Everyone's in a good mood... lol Fletch -----Original Message----- From: John S Harper [mailto:jsharper@...] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 7:05 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] "The Wave" Nice rant. I wave when the mood strikes. It can break up the boredom on a long straight stretch. I see it kind of like saying hi or nodding to someone you don't know that you meet walking down the hall at work. Just being friendly. Completely unneccessary, though. "Mike Peplinski" on 07/23/2004 08:49:33 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject: [DSN_klr650] "The Wave" This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not interested, stop here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is great but JC almighty, theres a billion bikes out there. About 10% of them wave, a few more think about it but are afraid to start a "relationship" and the rest are either stuck up, don't care or don't know about it. I don't need to have a mini-bonding experience with every rider out there. Second, I picked the KLR because of its reverse individuality. In a crowd of bikes, this one is virtually invisible. I like it that way. I don't need tattoos, earings or piercings, cowboy hats or loud shirts (or loud pipes) to get attention when I'm riding. I like to be left alone. Me, the road the bike. Why do I want to wave? iOn a nice weekend day, it's a lesson in one hand riding. If these guys want to socialize, I'm the first to jump on the gab wagon. I've been kicked out of gas stations for tying up the pumps but that's another story. I love to meet bikers and talk bike but this wave thing is nothing but an inconvenience. When I started cycling about 3 eons ago, damn near in the "Wild One" era, it really was a group thing and waving was cool but now it's downright dangerous. How do you wave to a stream of 15 passing friendlies? Then there is the concentration thing. I focus about 100 % on my riding. I like to have long thought processes on the road. I don't like to see an oncoming rider, have to make a decision do I ave or not. If he doesn't return it, I'm snubbed. I feel bad. If I don't even get started, I don't have to worry about it. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but what the hell, that's what its all about. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeR Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[dirtrooster2003]

I get from reading this wave thing most you guys think its about being on a bike. I was raised in the country and everyone waved no matter what you were riding or driving, on some roads it might have been several days since you saw anybody. If you didnt need to get anywhere soon you just stopped in the road and bullshitted a while. I still wave at pretty much everyone i meet no matter if im riding or driving. Its about being freindly and a good neighbor, cant yall get it or is it beyond yalls coprehension this friendly thing. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not

interested, stop

> here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is

great but JC

> almighty, theres a billion bikes out there. About 10% of them

wave, a few

> more think about it but are afraid to start a "relationship" and

the rest

> are either stuck up, don't care or don't know about it. I don't

need to have

> a mini-bonding experience with every rider out there. Second, I

picked the

> KLR because of its reverse individuality. In a crowd of bikes,

this one is

> virtually invisible. I like it that way. I don't need tattoos,

earings or

> piercings, cowboy hats or loud shirts (or loud pipes) to get

attention when

> I'm riding. I like to be left alone. Me, the road the bike. Why do

I want to

> wave? iOn a nice weekend day, it's a lesson in one hand riding. If

these

> guys want to socialize, I'm the first to jump on the gab wagon.

I've been

> kicked out of gas stations for tying up the pumps but that's

another story.

> I love to meet bikers and talk bike but this wave thing is nothing

but an

> inconvenience. When I started cycling about 3 eons ago, damn near

in the

> "Wild One" era, it really was a group thing and waving was cool

but now it's

> downright dangerous. How do you wave to a stream of 15 passing

friendlies?

> Then there is the concentration thing. I focus about 100 % on my

riding. I

> like to have long thought processes on the road. I don't like to

see an

> oncoming rider, have to make a decision do I ave or not. If he

doesn't

> return it, I'm snubbed. I feel bad. If I don't even get started, I

don't

> have to worry about it. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but

what the

> hell, that's what its all about. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from

McAfee

> Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?

cid=3963

[Keith Saltzer]

Small towns in

> country don't count, everyone waves out there.

Yea, that, and when your cruising out in the absolute middle of NOWHERE. I was coming back from Pa and was somewhere in the Utah/Nevada Great Basin. Nothing and I mean nothing for miles and miles and miles. I would pass a car/truck about every 15 minutes or so and I started noticing that the drivers were waving at me. I couldn't figure out why at first and then it hit me. There were just so few people out there that they would be happy to see another person out in the middle of nowhere. I thought about it and thought it was funny, but I waved back. Later on, during several stops for quiet time, pictures, or whatever, almost every single vehicle, female or male driven, would stop just to make sure I was OK. Boy was that a different world. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[dirtrooster2003]

This is proof you still dont get it. Small towns do count and the wave is an assuance that if ya have trouble there is help available. Weather in New York City or Bum F%@#ed Egypt, you dolt. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote:

> Small towns in > > country don't count, everyone waves out there. > > Yea, that, and when your cruising out in the absolute middle of > NOWHERE. > > I was coming back from Pa and was somewhere in the Utah/Nevada

Great

> Basin. Nothing and I mean nothing for miles and miles and miles.

I

> would pass a car/truck about every 15 minutes or so and I started > noticing that the drivers were waving at me. I couldn't figure

out

> why at first and then it hit me. There were just so few people

out

> there that they would be happy to see another person out in the > middle of nowhere. I thought about it and thought it was funny,

but

> I waved back. > > Later on, during several stops for quiet time, pictures, or

whatever,

> almost every single vehicle, female or male driven, would stop

just

> to make sure I was OK. Boy was that a different world. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Harry Seifert]

Right on, dude. That's the greatest benefit to living in a small town. It's also the biggest pain in the ass, too. Ya can't fart without someone bitching about it. I like to stop on the highway thru the middle of town to talk to someone goin' the opposite way. Gets them touristas really riled up. Cops, too!! Like they own the road or something. Little do they know that I DO OWN THE ENTIRE FREAKIN' TOWN AND I'M FORECLOSING ON THEIR MORTGAGES. ;>) buddy

> [Original Message] > From: dirtrooster2003 > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 7/23/2004 10:07:21 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: "The Wave" > > I get from reading this wave thing most you guys think its about > being on a bike. I was raised in the country and everyone waved no > matter what you were riding or driving, on some roads it might have > been several days since you saw anybody. If you didnt need to get > anywhere soon you just stopped in the road and bullshitted a while. > I still wave at pretty much everyone i meet no matter if im riding > or driving. Its about being freindly and a good neighbor, cant yall > get it or is it beyond yalls coprehension this friendly thing. > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > This is a little rant about "the wave" so if you're not > interested, stop > > here. Frankly this waving stuff drives me nuts. Commeraderie is > great but JC > > almighty, theres a billion bikes out there. About 10% of them > wave, a few > > more think about it but are afraid to start a "relationship" and > the rest > > are either stuck up, don't care or don't know about it. I don't > need to have > > a mini-bonding experience with every rider out there. Second, I > picked the > > KLR because of its reverse individuality. In a crowd of bikes, > this one is > > virtually invisible. I like it that way. I don't need tattoos, > earings or > > piercings, cowboy hats or loud shirts (or loud pipes) to get > attention when > > I'm riding. I like to be left alone. Me, the road the bike. Why do > I want to > > wave? iOn a nice weekend day, it's a lesson in one hand riding. If > these > > guys want to socialize, I'm the first to jump on the gab wagon. > I've been > > kicked out of gas stations for tying up the pumps but that's > another story. > > I love to meet bikers and talk bike but this wave thing is nothing > but an > > inconvenience. When I started cycling about 3 eons ago, damn near > in the > > "Wild One" era, it really was a group thing and waving was cool > but now it's > > downright dangerous. How do you wave to a stream of 15 passing > friendlies? > > Then there is the concentration thing. I focus about 100 % on my > riding. I > > like to have long thought processes on the road. I don't like to > see an > > oncoming rider, have to make a decision do I ave or not. If he > doesn't > > return it, I'm snubbed. I feel bad. If I don't even get started, I > don't > > have to worry about it. I'm sure many of you will disagree, but > what the > > hell, that's what its all about. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from > McAfee > > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp? > cid=3963 > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ

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[Sandy]

Interesting point of view..er...rant. I personally enjoy the wave, although I only do the return wave, if I see it in time. My attention is on my riding, not who's looking or not. I currently ride in Texas, where the HD, BMW and cruiser crowds are not so likely to wave, but the sportbikers and other DS guys almost always wave. When I rode in California a lot, the wave thing was truly a lesson in one handed bike control, at speed, on twisty mountain roads with dire consequences for failing said lesson. I often did not return the wave there, in order to live to wave another day. Ride Safe! Sandy / Fort Worth Texas