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[Volker Traudt]

What happens if I drop the front 1 or even 2 inches (letting the ends of the fork tube stick out 1 or 2 inches above the top of the triple clamp)? Will it change the steering geometry dramatically? Other potential disadvantages? I want to set up one of my bikes to accomadate my kids better. Volker -----Original Message----- From: sentto-488385-83622-1065273706-vtraudt=compuserve.com@....c om [mailto:sentto-488385-83622-1065273706-vtraudt=compuserve.com@... .yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Arden Kysely Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:22 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: front end twitches in gravel I'll add a couple of things to Pat's list: 4) Try keeping as much weight as possible on the pegs. You don't have to stand, though it might help, but pressing on the pegs gets the weight down lower. 5) Use the throttle if the gravel gets deep and the bike starts to wallow. The throttle is your friend in loose stuff, and many other places as well. __Arden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, kdxkawboy@a... wrote: > In a message dated 2003-10-03 4:40:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > revbob1999@y... writes: > > > > > > > Hi All! I have 1200 miles on my 2002 with stock tires. I have tried > > to ride gravel roads but both the front and rear ends feel like each > > rock wants to send each end bouncing to and fro, very twitchy feeling. > > Any ideas how to cure this, or is this just a characteristic of a > > KLR650? Thanks > > > > > > Its a characteristic of riding gravel/sand on most any bike. The stock tires > wont help the problem any. A slight change in riding style could help. Next > time you're in gravel try the following: > > 1) Use your knees/thighs to get a good grip on the seat/tank/side panels. > 2) Use this grip as the foundation to use your lower back muscles to hold up > your upper body and get your weight off the handlebars. > 3) Loosen your grip on the bars. The idea is let the wheel wobble a bit and > it will more less keep itself centered on the line you're trying to follow. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Guest]

I say you will affect geometry by just lowering the front forks. I just installed the Scootworks lowering kit and put my bike down 3 inches. But that's 3 inches front AND back. (as in level??). I'm barely past novice but why would kits be available if you could just lower the forks to get the bike down lower. Martin. Canada.

[Jim The Canoeist]

Don't confuse us. That's 1.5 inches front and rear. Please guys, don't try to lower anything 3 inches without some serious thought to what happens to wheel clearance, cable routing, handling, etc.. As to original question: try it and tell us. Sounds good for hunting worms by head light. Conventional wisdom though is to keep pretty much the same geometry by doing the same amount front and rear. A question from me. Am I anywhere close to hitting the front wheel on the front fender by slipping the forks 1.5" What if I install one of the popular fork braces? Will it hit the fender? -Jim in AZ

----- Original Message ----- From: "martinwaters" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: LOWERING THE FRONT > I say you will affect geometry by just lowering the front forks. > I just installed the Scootworks lowering kit and put my bike down 3 > inches. But that's 3 inches front AND back. (as in level??). I'm > barely past novice but why would kits be available if you could just > lower the forks to get the bike down lower. > Martin. > Canada.

[Doug Herr]

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Jim The Canoeist wrote:

> Don't confuse us. That's 1.5 inches front and rear.

He said that he used the Scootworks lowering kit. This allows 1, 2 or 3 inches of lowering. So, I do thing he really meant that he lowered the rear by 3 inches and then also lowered the front by 3 inches. My wife's bike was at the full 3 and 3 setting. We did check to find that about 2 inches is the max front lowering before the tire can touch the fender a full compression (stock tire with about 5000 miles on it). I have given her the K9 fork brace and moved her to 2 inches of lowering. This does mean that the outer/bottom part of the fender will hit the brace with heavy compression, but will not effect the wheel. She does not do much dirt riding and what she does is pretty timid, so I think it unlikely that the loss of travel will be an issue. Maybe we will consider progressive springs since they should help this and should give an overall improvement. Oh, I also have a UFO low front fender coming in. If I like it a bunch then maybe she will go for that then we will see how that effects front end travel. -- Doug Herr doug@...

[dooden]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "martinwaters" wrote:

> I say you will affect geometry by just lowering the front forks. > I just installed the Scootworks lowering kit and put my bike down 3 > inches. But that's 3 inches front AND back. (as in level??). I'm > barely past novice but why would kits be available if you could just > lower the forks to get the bike down lower. > Martin. > Canada.

And some say by raising the forks in the tubes you get a quicker steer with more tight cornering. Perhaps it would give a stiffer ride since there is less angle to aborb the motion of the impact on bumps. Either way it don't cost anything to try it, same as adjusting the bars before buying another set of them. But heck everybody is entitled to spend their money as they see fit. Thats one reason I like my KLR so much, I can do to it, whatever I want to make it more comfortable and fun to ride and not care what the next person thinks. Ride on... Dooden A15 Green Ape

[Guest]

With my forks up about 1" into the triple clamp, from the factory assembly in 1997 until about 1998 and 15,000 miles, my bike definitely felt more nimble and more steady at speed, although i did install mt21's front and rear at the same time as finally lowering the forks.

[Volker Traudt]

I just checked the scootworks website, they are offering 2 kits. Which one did you get? Also, the picture only shows what seems to be a different link for the rear. Is that all the kit includes? What about the front (just raising the forks?). Volker -----Original Message----- From: sentto-488385-83648-1065309672-vtraudt=compuserve.com@....c om [mailto:sentto-488385-83648-1065309672-vtraudt=compuserve.com@... .yahoo.com] On Behalf Of martinwaters Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 7:21 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: LOWERING THE FRONT I say you will affect geometry by just lowering the front forks. I just installed the Scootworks lowering kit and put my bike down 3 inches. But that's 3 inches front AND back. (as in level??). I'm barely past novice but why would kits be available if you could just lower the forks to get the bike down lower. Martin. Canada. List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Doug Herr]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Volker Traudt wrote:

> Also, the picture only shows what seems to be a different link for the rear. > Is that all the kit includes? What about the front (just raising the > forks?).

They have a single position 2" kit which is about the same as all the others. They also have a multi-position link that can be used at 1", 2" or 3". I know you did not ask me, but I got the 1-3" kit. It comes with the lowering links and a stop to install in the rear shock if bottoming out in the rear is noticed. There are no parts supplied for the front, just instructions to raise the forks.

> -----Original Message----- > .yahoo.com] On Behalf Of martinwaters > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 7:21 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: LOWERING THE FRONT > > > > I say you will affect geometry by just lowering the front forks. I just > installed the Scootworks lowering kit and put my bike down 3 > inches. But that's 3 inches front AND back. (as in level??). I'm > barely past novice but why would kits be available if you could just > lower the forks to get the bike down lower. > Martin. > Canada.

-- Doug Herr doug@...

[bzrc]

i used a kit from skootworks to lower the rear. they mentioned the front could be lowered to keep the machine geometry the same. sounds simple but the forks are not sliding after loosening the clamp brackets. is there some device or procedure that will make adjusting the fork tubes simpler?

[imbikermikenotu]

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