shopping for a motorcar, whilst on a klr.

[cdnabn49]

i am in search of the "holy Grail" of motorcycle tires... on average i only get about 3500 miles or 5000 km's out of a rear tire before they're bald... i am doing 95% black top n' gravel to 5% quad trails... anyone have a recommendation on such a thing?

[Apex]

< " i am in search of the "holy Grail" of motorcycle tires... on average i only get about 3500 miles or 5000 km's out of a rear tire before they're bald... i am doing 95% black top n' gravel to 5% quad < trails... anyone have a recommendation on such a thing? " That's a pretty tall order, as tire choice are somewhat subjective because most riders have differing riding styles technique and preferences, additionaly tire manufacturers make subtle and sometime major changes in a given tire on a regular basis, my last set of KLR tires were Michelin T66x Radial (rear) and T66 bias (front) and I got 11K+ amd they still had at least 1500 mi. left when I changed them. I thought they were the best MC tires I'd ever ridden, they hooked up like sticky sport bike tires dry or wet, wore like iron and even did a credible job in the limited dirt riding I did, which is pretty infrequent and anything but serious. The German Dual Sport sites (German's are into DS bikes big time) were generally critical of the T 66's most said they were lame in the wet, the exact opposite of my experience, I recently found out Michelin had changed the compound 3 times and I'd imagine the wet hook up problems were first Gen. I switched over to Michelin Anakee's which are the newest Michelin DS tire and the Germans and the American V Strom site riders seem to think they are the best DS road tire bar none, I have yet to see any criticism. Mine are excellent, they seem just like the T 66's to me, but the tread pattern is somewhat different and appears as if would be a better tire in the wet, as the tread pattern snd high silica content compound were designed to handle the wet and be more highly durable to boot . Fred J.

[xs650@dejazzd.com]

Has anyone tried the Michelin Sirac tires? The tread pattern appears quite a bit more aggressive than the T66 or Anakee, but stll more street oriented than knobbies. I know that they're expensive. Eric in Pa > , my last set of KLR tires were Michelin T66x Radial

> (rear) and T66 bias (front) > and I got 11K+ amd they still had at least 1500 mi. left when I changed > them. I thought they were the best > MC tires I'd ever ridden, they hooked up like sticky sport bike tires dry or > wet, wore like iron and even did a credible job in the limited dirt riding I > did, which is pretty infrequent and anything but serious. > The German Dual Sport sites (German's are into DS bikes big time) were > generally critical of the T 66's > most said they were lame in the wet, the exact opposite of my experience, I > recently found out Michelin had > changed the compound 3 times and I'd imagine the wet hook up problems were > first Gen. > I switched over to Michelin Anakee's which are the newest Michelin DS tire > and the Germans and the American > V Strom site riders seem to think they are the best DS road tire bar none, I > have yet to see any criticism. > Mine are excellent, they seem just like the T 66's to me, but the tread > pattern is somewhat different and appears as if would be a better tire in > the wet, as the tread pattern snd high silica content compound were designed > to handle the wet and be more highly durable to boot . > Fred J.

>

[Allan Patton]

----- Original Message -----

> Has anyone tried the Michelin Sirac tires? The tread pattern appears

quite a bit more aggressive than the T66 or Anakee, but stll more street oriented than knobbies. I know that they're expensive.

> >

A riding buddy said: "The rear Michelin is not wearing well on the Dakar so dont want to go back to another one of them and I don't plan on spending much time on muddy roads, so a road tire would work fine for me." The Michelin Sirac is a nice looking tire, thought I'd like to have one myself until I looked at the price. I've been using the Dunlop 604s. Getting about 5 to 8 thousand out of them. Getting ready to start on my fourth one this year. Allan A14

[Larry Risley]

Fitted a rear sirac this week, went on easy, bead seated at 30#. Designed for a tube, has a tan colored coating on the inside that is pretty smooth. Last tire was a gp110, worked good. Was thinking of a tire that might last a bit longer. Time will tell. As for price, well, I'm on Maui. Back to the sirac. Needless to say, the tread is rather sharp looking, and the carcass feels plenty strong. I have yet to try it on the dirt or wet roads or mud. Hmmm, got the time, KLR is ready, rain in them hills over yonder, and the sun is on the way. Shoots, we go! Larry

----- Original Message ----- From: xs650@... To: Apex ; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] in search of the "Grail" Has anyone tried the Michelin Sirac tires? The tread pattern appears quite a bit more aggressive than the T66 or Anakee, but stll more street oriented than knobbies. I know that they're expensive. Eric in Pa > , my last set of KLR tires were Michelin T66x Radial > (rear) and T66 bias (front) > and I got 11K+ amd they still had at least 1500 mi. left when I changed > them. I thought they were the best > MC tires I'd ever ridden, they hooked up like sticky sport bike tires dry or > wet, wore like iron and even did a credible job in the limited dirt riding I > did, which is pretty infrequent and anything but serious. > The German Dual Sport sites (German's are into DS bikes big time) were > generally critical of the T 66's > most said they were lame in the wet, the exact opposite of my experience, I > recently found out Michelin had > changed the compound 3 times and I'd imagine the wet hook up problems were > first Gen. > I switched over to Michelin Anakee's which are the newest Michelin DS tire > and the Germans and the American > V Strom site riders seem to think they are the best DS road tire bar none, I > have yet to see any criticism. > Mine are excellent, they seem just like the T 66's to me, but the tread > pattern is somewhat different and appears as if would be a better tire in > the wet, as the tread pattern snd high silica content compound were designed > to handle the wet and be more highly durable to boot . > Fred J. > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[zootpatutie]

> Has anyone tried the Michelin Sirac tires? The tread pattern

appears quite a bit more aggressive than the T66 or Anakee, but stll more street oriented than knobbies. I know that they're expensive.

> > Eric in Pa > > >

Ran the Siracs on the rear. Great for carving corners. OK off road when fresh. Didn't get much mileage out of them. Expensive. Todd

[PauL M. Bober]

Great post! PauL M. Bober -----Original Message----- From: Keith Saltzer [mailto:k.saltzer@...] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:46 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Shopping for a motorcar, whilst on a KLR. You know that I love to ride my KLR all the time, but I found that riding it while shopping for a new car, was just the best damn idea for looking through all the used car lots (over 45 or them in 6 hours) while getting away from all the salespeople and their bullcrap. I was just having a blast popping on the lot, sliding between those cars they had blocking the car sized entrances, putting past every car, using the sidewalks, dirt path shortcuts, tight chainlink fence passageways, slipping around back to have a peek, then while ignoring the salesperson headed my way, I grabbed a handfull and rode right next door to another lot, while the sales person just stood there and watched me "get away". I was cracking up inside my helmet while I watched the look on some of these sales peoples faces. I wasn't trying to be rude now, it's just that I knew exactly what I wanted, and only had about 6 hours of daylight to find it. I did NOT have time to park my car in the "customer section", roll up the windows and lock it up, go walking all over the lot while talking to who knows how many sales people, answering the same questions over and over and over again, then trying to get away from them while taking one of their cards and exchanging numbers ect ect ect. That would have takin me a MONTH! As it turned out, I got through over 45 lots, cruised thousands of cars, and only talked to the people that I wanted to talk too. I saved a huge amount of time, felt like I got alot done, and had a blast. At the 3rd lot I hit, I was on my way out, when I saw this employee sitting in a running car motioning to me to come over. I went over to the guy and he says "nice bike", and mentions that he has a '95 that looks just like mine. He asks if I am on the list, and I say yes and who I am, and says "Oh yea, I know you". He doesn't post anymore but says that he reads the list alot. Cool! So there you go. Just one more reason to own the almighty KLR. Use it to shop for your next vehicle, and you just might save a bundle because you got away from that really good salesperson that could have talked you into that 2004 red corvette convertable that you have always wanted and can't ever afford, while you were suppose to be out there looking for a station wagon for your family of 5, for under $8000 out the door. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special) List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/