pro grip 714 question

[seniorblast]

I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I made it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. I had to move out of the lane into the shoulder to avoid a car that breaked ahead of me even if I had a lot of time. I tried to block the wheels on a dirt road to no avail. The handle and the pedal go all the way to the end and it still does not block. I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer was that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get better. Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? Thanks for your input.

[hens_p]

Your dealer is a moron! Pat --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "seniorblast" wrote:

> I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I

made

> it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. [snip] > I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer

was

> that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get

better.

> > Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? > > Thanks for your input.

[KLR Rider]

I have to agree with Pat, but not only is your dealer a moron, I HOPE he has good liability insurance. Your dealer needs to have it explained to him that he WILL come to wherever the bike is, he WILL fix it and he should deliver it back to you. Sending any vehicle out the door with improper functioning safety equipment is an personal injury attorney's (which I am not by the way) dream, even in Canada. -Scott Law Offices of Scott C. Adams www.attorneyadams.com Voice 503-324-0111 Fax 503-324-1127 Focusing on Adoptions (& other Constructive Family Law), Estate Planning, and Small Businesses.

----- Original Message ----- From: seniorblast To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] New KLR...no brakes I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I made it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. I had to move out of the lane into the shoulder to avoid a car that breaked ahead of me even if I had a lot of time. I tried to block the wheels on a dirt road to no avail. The handle and the pedal go all the way to the end and it still does not block. I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer was that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get better. Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? Thanks for your input. List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ED]

Blast, I got an A17 (2003) three weeks ago, and it stopped just fine, I'd guess the breaks aren't bled right. good luck on getting the dealer to get it right. and be very careful if you ride. Stay safe Fireman Ed

[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 3/20/03 5:25:39 PM Central Standard Time, jetblast@... writes:

> I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer was > that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get better. > > Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)?

Yes, you are. Any dealer who would release a bike in that condition and when notified didn't send a truck out to pick it up doesn't deserve your business and better have great liability insurance. The minimum you have a right to expect when you buy from a dealer is that the machine is safe to operate. Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[andy@andynicholson.com]

Your dealer is definitely an idiot. Check your master cylinder. My master cylinder cover wiggled loose the first day and started leaking brake fluid. I bled and refilled that evening, and the brakes are fine.

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, "seniorblast" wrote: > > I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I made > it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. I had to move > > I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer was > that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get better. > > Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? > > Thanks for your input.

[Sean Noll]

Check what the lemon laws are in your state. In most states the lemon law is for three-peats of a similar problem - but in many states a single occurance of brakes, emissions or a few other occurances is cause for a full refund of the purchase price. If this is so in your state - give him a call and tell him he can come and fix it and have it back in 2 days or you will have it shipped back for a full refund. That should get his attention. How does a guy stay in business like that? sn

----- Original Message ----- From: "seniorblast" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] New KLR...no brakes > I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I made > it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. I had to move > out of the lane into the shoulder to avoid a car that breaked ahead > of me even if I had a lot of time. > > I tried to block the wheels on a dirt road to no avail. The handle > and the pedal go all the way to the end and it still does not block. > > I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer was > that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get better. > > Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? > > Thanks for your input. > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[RM]

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, seniorblast wrote:

>I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I made it. >Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. I had to move out of >the lane into the shoulder to avoid a car that breaked ahead of me even >if I had a lot of time.

Getting the OEM pads and rotors bedded-in took 10-15 hard stops. Not all at once, though. The first time I hit the brakes, there almost weren't any. 35k miles later, there still isn't much front braking to speak of. But that's for another post... RM

[dooden]

Armour-All on the rotors maybe ? or something to keep them from rusting.. it will burn off in time, but I would use a cleaner and maybe hit them with emory paper, since by now the pads are most likely glazed over.. or wash the bike and let the rotors rust up some, then apply the brakes to clean them... But agree on a brand new ass cheek spanking bike.. its is not right. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "hens_p" wrote: > Your dealer is a moron! > > Pat > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "seniorblast" > wrote: > > I just drove my new KLR 2003 home from the dealer. I'm lucky I > made > > it. Braking was almost nil, just enough to slow down. [snip] > > I called back the dealer bceause I was not impressed. His answer > was > > that it takes about 300 miles (500 kms) or so before they get > better. > > > > Am I taken for a ride (a dangerous one that is)? > > > > Thanks for your input.

[Fred Hink]

The facts are now online. You can see in this picture using my highly accurate and recently calibrated Sharpie Pen measuring device that both Pro Grip Gel Grips are pretty much the same length. The 737 on the left is a better grip for riding off road where you need more grip or if you are riding where it is wet. The 714 on the right is more comfortable but will be slicker when wet. Check out the "definitive facts" at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/grips.jpg Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/cmc.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dooden" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:04 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Pro Grip 714 question > Really ? guess im glad I got the 737's then... came in a package > deal I got on ebay. > > Bigger question: Which pair is more comfy ?? > > Plan to add metal brush guards someday, so trimming to fit is no > issue for me. > > Dooden > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Don Sprinkle" > wrote: > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > > Left side, just loosen the switch thingy and move over a little.. > > > > > > Right side might be tricky with the throttle tube, I installed > > 737's > > > and it dont seem to be a problem for me.. 1/2 seems a bit > extreme, > > > 1/4 maybe. > > > > > > Dooden > > > > > > > > > > I used the 737s also as they are constructed a little bit shorter > > than the 714s. My son used the 714s on his street bike and they > feel > > great, but they are definitely longer than my 737s were that I put > on > > the KLR. > > > > Don Sprinkle