nklr moose pants

[Ron Kellner]

Moose Expedition pants are not quite as tough as XCR pants. Mine have been comfortable,waterproof and ,importantly,have pockets. Can't go wrong for the price. They're made to wear over your boots. I wear MSR V-Top armored pants under them. Also I wear Aerostich combat touring boots. Might as well mention tires while I'm at it. For all but real heavy duty dirt riding i use only Metzler Sahara's. Great tire. I usually change the rear at 4k and the front at 8k miles. I don't let them go too far. As an old friend said, fresh tires are the cheapest insurance you can buy. Ron in Buffalo,NY

>From: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Reply-To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Digest Number 3549 >Date: 4 Feb 2003 08:57:59 -0000 > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >There are 15 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. MZ Enduro question > From: Russell Scott > 2. Re: Shindu Tires ? - Nope, "Shinko" > From: RM > 3. RE: NKLR Columbia accident > From: Russell Scott > 4. Re: Disc/Fork cover for KLR650 > From: Harry Thames > 5. > From: "Ramey" > 6. Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: "bitsurfer001 " > 7. valve check question > From: TM1669@... > 8. Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: Devon Jarvis > 9. Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: Devon Jarvis > 10. Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: "Killer650" > 11. I know this is a long shot, but... > From: "monahanwb " > 12. AirZone Recreation > From: "peter sutherland" > 13. KLR650X Fork Graft Guide v0.01 posted > From: zmully@... > 14. Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: Thor Lancelot Simon > 15. Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > From: "Glen Harness" > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:43:55 -0800 > From: Russell Scott >Subject: MZ Enduro question > >Does an MZ Enduro have a balancer chain and doohickey, or some other >achilles heel? > >Gino? > >Russell > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:01:18 -0500 (EST) > From: RM >Subject: Re: Shindu Tires ? - Nope, "Shinko" > > >On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Bobb Todd wrote: > > >Supposedly made by Yokohama ? Similar pattern to the Tourance but half > >the price. > >I think you're referring to Shinko. They're Korean. > >http://www.shinkotire.co.kr/emain.htm > >Supposedly, Yokohama got out of the motorcycle tire business and they sold >their molds and patents to Shinko, a South Korean industrial giant. > >A supplement to Dealer News (an industry rag) last year had a blurb about >them and a reference to Moto-Man distributing in Upland, CA (909) >608-0082. > >I just called and it sounds like Moto-Man is a garage business (phone was >answered with "hello" - not necessarily a bad thing). The owner's name is >Pete and he's friendly and helpful. > >Pete will sell retail but he also distributes to various shops in the >Inland Empire and throughout the region. Unfortunately, the MAW's and the >Chaparral's and such aren't interested and therefore there aren't any >large mail order firms that carry these tires. > >He indicated that he can get any of the Shinko products but that there'd >be a significant lead time on D/S tires since his volume for these things >is damn near zero. The E705 looks to be a Gripster-like tire, the SR244 >is a K270/GP-1 knock-off, the E703 looks like OEM, and the E700 looks a >little more aggressive than OEM. They don't have any full (non-DOT) >knobbies appropriate for the KLR but they do have some fronts that would >work. > >I have no experience with these products except for having a pair of Raven >009's (streetbike radials) hanging in my garage unused. > >Let us know if you decide to try any of these. > >RM > >PS. Didn't Fred sell Shinkos in the past? > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:02:04 -0800 > From: Russell Scott >Subject: RE: NKLR Columbia accident > >The shuttle reflects the bloated NASA bureaucracy that created it in the >70's. Its too big, bulky, and inefficient. As for the space station, >anything that begins with the word International, and not American, is a >waste of American taxpayer dollars. I would do five things: >1. Make NASA a private company. >2. Build an American moon base. >3. Transport all material in unmanned cargo ships. >4. Build a leaner, meaner vehicle for taking humans into and out of space. >5. Turn the space station into a transfer point for cargo and humans, and >have a separate vehicle for going to and from the moon. Since it doesn't >have to re-enter, it can be a much simpler design. >Rocketman Russell > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Krok [SMTP:stingray@...] >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:08 PM >To: KLR650 list >Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR Columbia accident > >Thought I would share a commentary about the space program, written by a >member of the United States Space Foundation. It was written after the >release of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, but is still valid today. >Granted, there are other forces at work (such as politics and >buracracy), but this is still something to consider. Don't know how >accurate the dollar figures are. > >http://www.galcit.caltech.edu/~stingray/staroped.html > >Krokko > >-- >Dr. J. Christopher Krok >John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel >Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125 > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:11:12 -0500 > From: Harry Thames >Subject: Re: Disc/Fork cover for KLR650 > >I'm using a UFO part # 12-400-22, it fits a KX125, $22.95 minus discount. >Its Kawasaki >dirt bike green and only had to cut a slot in it for the reflectors. > >Harry >SC > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:24:13 -0800 > From: "Ramey" >Subject: > > > > Any knowledge of the Moose Expedition pants? Might be new this year. >Sounds >like they might be good for dualsporting. Priced ok, $100. > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 03:23:56 -0000 > From: "bitsurfer001 " >Subject: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > >All- > >Just found out that my factory Doohickey is broken. >I purchased one from Sagebrush and went to replace the factory one >before it broke, and found that is had failed already. Now I am >worried about damage to the engine. The spring is nowhere to be found >and the piece of the factory doohickey that fits on the shaft is >missing as well. > >Has anybody approached their local dealer about this problem, and if >so, what has the Dealer done for you ? Do I have any recourse ? >Obviously all the ground up metal chips have done some damage. > >Please let me know how your local dealer has responded. > >Thanks, > >Pete >02 KLR 16Kmi >88 KLR 60Kmi > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:17:10 EST > From: TM1669@... >Subject: valve check question > > Its been said many times in the list that valve tolerances will tighten >over >time. I checked them today and the have loosened a little. Intake >measured.127mm at 500 mile check, now at 5k miles measured .152mm. Exhaust >went from .203mm to .229mm. Is there a underlying problem that should be >looked at? All were within spec but was wondering why they would be >opening. > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:15:55 -0500 > From: Devon Jarvis >Subject: Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > >Likely the big parts are caught in the sump screen that protects the oil >pump. Smaller ones may have come out in the last oil >change. > >Unless the motor is unmistakeably broken, the dealer response will be >little or nothing. > >If the motor was running fine when you took it apart > >"bitsurfer001 " wrote: > > > All- > > > > Just found out that my factory Doohickey is broken. > > I purchased one from Sagebrush and went to replace the factory one > > before it broke, and found that is had failed already. Now I am > > worried about damage to the engine. The spring is nowhere to be found > > and the piece of the factory doohickey that fits on the shaft is > > missing as well. > > > > Has anybody approached their local dealer about this problem, and if > > so, what has the Dealer done for you ? Do I have any recourse ? > > Obviously all the ground up metal chips have done some damage. > > > > Please let me know how your local dealer has responded. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pete > > 02 KLR 16Kmi > > 88 KLR 60Kmi > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:24:11 -0500 > From: Devon Jarvis >Subject: Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > > > > > > > If the motor was running fine when you took it apart > >Then it probably isn't damaged. You may have really lucked out. > >Devon > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:05:02 -0600 > From: "Killer650" >Subject: Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > >Personally, I would start by fishing around in the oil pan with a magnetic >parts retreiver before hitting the panic button. There is a large channel >with access to the pan on the bottom of the case with the covers off for >the >doohickey changeover. You may find the missing parts in there. Also, I >understand there is a metal filter screen -somewhere- in that engine, but I >haven't seen it yet. > >As far as the dealer is concerned, they will likely tell you to get bent. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:23 PM >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > > > > All- > > > > Just found out that my factory Doohickey is broken. > > I purchased one from Sagebrush and went to replace the factory one > > before it broke, and found that is had failed already. Now I am > > worried about damage to the engine. The spring is nowhere to be found > > and the piece of the factory doohickey that fits on the shaft is > > missing as well. > > > > Has anybody approached their local dealer about this problem, and if > > so, what has the Dealer done for you ? Do I have any recourse ? > > Obviously all the ground up metal chips have done some damage. > > > > Please let me know how your local dealer has responded. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pete > > 02 KLR 16Kmi > > 88 KLR 60Kmi > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 04:50:14 -0000 > From: "monahanwb " >Subject: I know this is a long shot, but... > >stock footpegs, used, 2 pair, $10 a pair > >stock bash plates, 2, $10 each > >stock sidestand, with spring and bolt, $25 > >e me off list, you pay shipping > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:54:07 -0800 > From: "peter sutherland" >Subject: AirZone Recreation > >http://airzonerecreation.com/ Here is the inflatable tent, not self >inflatable. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:21:32 -0500 > From: zmully@... >Subject: KLR650X Fork Graft Guide v0.01 posted > > > >It's not complete nor is it entirely formatted, edited, spell checked or >pretty, >but instead of sitting on my ass watching crappy TV tonight, I decided to >sit on >my ass watching crappy TV and try to write down all the tips and tricks to >installing a KLX front end on a KLR. The rest will be up tomorrow night, I >am >about to fall asleep, but I was hoping to get some feedback from folks on >it. > >You can find it here: http://www.borkbork.net > >There are more photos in both http://www.borkbork.net/pics/ and >http://zaphod.smartbrief.com/pics/ (zaphod is faster). > >Regards, >Z >DC >A5X >A11X > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 00:43:36 -0500 > From: Thor Lancelot Simon >Subject: Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > >On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:05:02PM -0600, Killer650 wrote: > > Personally, I would start by fishing around in the oil pan with a >magnetic > > parts retreiver before hitting the panic button. There is a large >channel > > with access to the pan on the bottom of the case with the covers off for >the > > doohickey changeover. You may find the missing parts in there. Also, I > > understand there is a metal filter screen -somewhere- in that engine, >but I > > haven't seen it yet. > > > > As far as the dealer is concerned, they will likely tell you to get >bent. > >If his bike's an '02, it's probably still under warranty. In that case, at >the very least the dealer has to fish all the old parts out for him and >replace them with new ones -- and, probably, warranty the repair itself for >some time, depending on the way the Kawasaki warranty's written and on >state law. And they probably can't refuse to use non-stock parts as a >replacement for the broken ones, if he supplies those parts. > >Regardless of what the dealer or Kawasaki may blow smoke about, the fact >is that doing repair or preventative maintenance work yourself _does not_ >and _can not_ void your warranty unless the manufacturer can _prove_ -- >not "suggest", _prove_ -- that you broke the doohickey and lost the spring >yourself. If they can't _prove_ that -- and with the reports of this very >failure piling up on the NHTSA site, not bloody likely -- they cannot >refuse to fix it under warranty. > >Whether one wants this fixed under warranty, etc. -- the only compelling >reason would seem to be the warranty on the repair itself, in case any >metal bits were missed and cause trouble later, because that'd be covered >-- >is a different question, I suppose. > >Thor > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:53:18 -0600 > From: "Glen Harness" >Subject: Re: Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > >Is it under warranty? If so, then there shouldn't be any problem. See if >the dealer will fix it using the Sagebrush part.... > >Glen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bitsurfer001 > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:23 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Dealers Response Factory "Doohickey" Failure ? > > > All- > > Just found out that my factory Doohickey is broken. > I purchased one from Sagebrush and went to replace the factory one > before it broke, and found that is had failed already. Now I am > worried about damage to the engine. The spring is nowhere to be found > and the piece of the factory doohickey that fits on the shaft is > missing as well. > > Has anybody approached their local dealer about this problem, and if > so, what has the Dealer done for you ? Do I have any recourse ? > Obviously all the ground up metal chips have done some damage. > > Please let me know how your local dealer has responded. > > Thanks, > > Pete > 02 KLR 16Kmi > 88 KLR 60Kmi > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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