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dooden
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by dooden » Mon Sep 09, 2002 2:45 pm

Anybody know if the front sprocket for a A15 (retainer nut) will fit the Pre-96's (retaining plate with bolts) ? I ordered back X-mas time front (14T) and rear (45T w/ Mud Slots) sprockets from Sprocket Specialists, the rear sprocket fit perfect, however the front sprocket they sent me ( # 613S-14 ) has the holes for a retainer plate and did not slip on the shaft at all, maybe I could have tapped it with a hammer, but figured I would try the 15/45 combo for a while and write Sprocket Specialists. Is it normal to have to tap new sprockets on a fairly new bike ? The shaft diameter appears larger, when holding the two sprockets together, not by alot however. Today received a response that the part # 613S-14 is correct for my bike. Of course they offered to replace it if it dont fit. Figured I would toss this at the collective. Dooden (1 of 15) A15 Resistance is futile, you will get dirty and fall.

Devon Jarvis
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by Devon Jarvis » Mon Sep 09, 2002 3:22 pm

I had to tap on a 14t Sunstar sprocket. I just figured that I had a shaft on the large end of tolerances and a sprocket on the short end (no jokes please). I used a lead-shot mallet and tapped lightly using a large socket for a driver. Serious side loading on the countershaft has got to be bad, but I don't know what would break first. How was 15-45? I've been using 14-43 for the last 12,000mi, 15-45 would be nearly the same but 1" shorter wheelbase. Devon dooden wrote:
> > Anybody know if the front sprocket for a A15 (retainer nut) will fit > the Pre-96's (retaining plate with bolts) ? > > I ordered back X-mas time front (14T) and rear (45T w/ Mud Slots) > sprockets from Sprocket Specialists, the rear sprocket fit perfect, > however the front sprocket they sent me ( # 613S-14 ) has the holes > for a retainer plate and did not slip on the shaft at all, maybe I > could have tapped it with a hammer, but figured I would try the 15/45 > combo for a while and write Sprocket Specialists. > > Is it normal to have to tap new sprockets on a fairly new bike ? > > The shaft diameter appears larger, when holding the two sprockets > together, not by alot however. > > Today received a response that the part # 613S-14 is correct for my > bike. Of course they offered to replace it if it dont fit. > > Figured I would toss this at the collective. > > Dooden (1 of 15) > A15 > > Resistance is futile, you will get dirty and fall. > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

murfalert
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by murfalert » Mon Sep 09, 2002 4:15 pm

:
> I had to tap on a 14t Sunstar sprocket. > > How was 15-45? I've been using 14-43 for the last 12,000mi, 15-45
would
> be nearly the same but 1" shorter wheelbase. >
I put on a 16 but found it different on both sides. One directions slid right on, the other was too small- tapered. I hope you guys didn't force the small side on? It appears spaced to go on one way to align chain with rear better. You old timers know better, but mine was definately tapered. Also, how are you riding on the highway with a 14T? Boy, that must turn some rpm at 75mph? I put a 16T on a like it, except for the times I could use a bit more grunt. Murf

Devon Jarvis
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by Devon Jarvis » Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:07 pm

The bike should pull the redline in 5th. I got it to 105 indicated, at 7250rpm but I couldn't fight the wobbles anymore and had to back off. 5500 gets me around 80-85mph, which is already too fast for highway traffic around here. Usually 70-75 is enough to take the target off your back. The 14t is nicest in the rough offroad stuff. It will lug down to a walking pace if I really push it. Devon murfalert wrote:
> > Also, how are you riding on the highway with a 14T? Boy, that must > turn some rpm at 75mph? I put a 16T on a like it, except for the > times I could use a bit more grunt. > Murf >

judjonzz
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by judjonzz » Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:33 pm

I'm running a 16t right now, and I think the bike is overgeared. It definitely will not pull redline in 5th. I did a 400 mile road trip on Saturday and Sunday, and it was pretty relaxed on the highway, but still wouldn't keep up with Shelly's R80 if she felt like wicking it up. Since the KLR is not at its best at elevated road speeds anyway, the 14t is not a bad choice for commuting, and best for offroad, of course. Now that I've tried them all, I think the 15t is best for most road work; still gives a decent roll-on from 55-75, and not too busy at 80.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > The bike should pull the redline in 5th. I got it to 105 indicated, at > 7250rpm but I couldn't fight the wobbles anymore and had to back off. > > 5500 gets me around 80-85mph, which is already too fast for highway > traffic around here. Usually 70-75 is enough to take the target off your > back. > > The 14t is nicest in the rough offroad stuff. It will lug down to a > walking pace if I really push it. > > Devon > > murfalert wrote: > > > > > Also, how are you riding on the highway with a 14T? Boy, that must > > turn some rpm at 75mph? I put a 16T on a like it, except for the > > times I could use a bit more grunt. > > Murf > >

Zachariah Mully
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by Zachariah Mully » Mon Sep 09, 2002 6:30 pm

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Devon Jarvis wrote:
> The 14t is nicest in the rough offroad stuff. It will lug down to a > walking pace if I really push it. > > Devon
Or a 13T if you have a really big ass like me. Heheheh. Z DC

dooden
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by dooden » Mon Sep 09, 2002 6:38 pm

15/45 is nice, did'nt seem to loose enuff on the road to worry about it yet, but offroad, its nice. Can actually use 2nd gear and stay on the trails now. 1st is like a tank, very little clutch work in the tighter stuff, 14/45 I will try some other time, since the 14t is sitting next to my keyboard. btw, thanks for the info, pretty sure I could have tapped it on, but since the OEM was on the loose side figured asking would'nt hurt. Dooden Reckon my shaft is a large one.. ;-)
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > I had to tap on a 14t Sunstar sprocket. I just figured that I had a > shaft on the large end of tolerances and a sprocket on the short end (no > jokes please). > > I used a lead-shot mallet and tapped lightly using a large socket for a > driver. Serious side loading on the countershaft has got to be bad, but > I don't know what would break first. > > How was 15-45? I've been using 14-43 for the last 12,000mi, 15-45 would > be nearly the same but 1" shorter wheelbase. > > Devon > > dooden wrote: > > > > Anybody know if the front sprocket for a A15 (retainer nut) will fit > > the Pre-96's (retaining plate with bolts) ? > > > > I ordered back X-mas time front (14T) and rear (45T w/ Mud Slots) > > sprockets from Sprocket Specialists, the rear sprocket fit perfect, > > however the front sprocket they sent me ( # 613S-14 ) has the holes > > for a retainer plate and did not slip on the shaft at all, maybe I > > could have tapped it with a hammer, but figured I would try the 15/45 > > combo for a while and write Sprocket Specialists. > > > > Is it normal to have to tap new sprockets on a fairly new bike ? > > > > The shaft diameter appears larger, when holding the two sprockets > > together, not by alot however. > > > > Today received a response that the part # 613S-14 is correct for my > > bike. Of course they offered to replace it if it dont fit. > > > > Figured I would toss this at the collective. > > > > Dooden (1 of 15) > > A15 > > > > Resistance is futile, you will get dirty and fall. > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Lujo Bauer
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by Lujo Bauer » Mon Sep 09, 2002 6:45 pm

I'm running 16t and my bike certainly feels like it wouldn't have any trouble pulling to redline, though I haven't been above 6000 rpm in 5th. This is with a Clearview +11 and Givi 36L side cases and 45L topcase. -Lujo
> I'm running a 16t right now, and I think the bike is overgeared. It > definitely will not pull redline in 5th. I did a 400 mile road trip on > Saturday and Sunday, and it was pretty relaxed on the highway, > but still wouldn't keep up with Shelly's R80 if she felt like wicking > it up. Since the KLR is not at its best at elevated road speeds > anyway, the 14t is not a bad choice for commuting, and best for > offroad, of course. Now that I've tried them all, I think the 15t is > best for most road work; still gives a decent roll-on from 55-75, > and not too busy at 80. > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > The bike should pull the redline in 5th. I got it to 105 indicated, > at > > 7250rpm but I couldn't fight the wobbles anymore and had to > back off. > > > > 5500 gets me around 80-85mph, which is already too fast for > highway > > traffic around here. Usually 70-75 is enough to take the target > off your > > back. > > > > The 14t is nicest in the rough offroad stuff. It will lug down to a > > walking pace if I really push it. > > > > Devon
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dooden
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by dooden » Mon Sep 09, 2002 7:26 pm

> > Also, how are you riding on the highway with a 14T? Boy, that must > turn some rpm at 75mph? I put a 16T on a like it, except for the > times I could use a bit more grunt. > Murf
Well Murf, dont know where you live, but up here in Upper Michigan, our highways consist of a blacktop path through the woods with some paint in the middle, and I do not believe there are any highways up here that exceed 55 mph posted speeds. But with the 15/45 I was turning about 4100 rpm at near 60 mph, yet to really ride much since installing, since the honey-do list / birthday parties and such have kept me off the bike. I was not to concerned about highway, since I either ride just to get out or offroad, I do not think I would ever travel on a dual-sport. Maybe truck it somewhere then ride that area however. Dooden (da Yooper eh!) A15

Tony Cornett
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a15 front sprocket question

Post by Tony Cornett » Mon Sep 09, 2002 8:39 pm

I ride on the road with 16t and 39t rear turn 3800rpm at 70 indicated pulls all the Sierras in California in 5th gear . Riding 70-75 I get 64 + mpg. would not concider redline with any sprocket, less rpm less stress on moving parts. This is of course only on the road. TC
----- Original Message ----- From: "dooden" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: A15 Front Sprocket Question > 15/45 is nice, did'nt seem to loose enuff on the road to worry about > it yet, but offroad, its nice. Can actually use 2nd gear and stay on > the trails now. 1st is like a tank, very little clutch work in the > tighter stuff, 14/45 I will try some other time, since the 14t is > sitting next to my keyboard. > > btw, thanks for the info, pretty sure I could have tapped it on, but > since the OEM was on the loose side figured asking would'nt hurt. > > Dooden > > Reckon my shaft is a large one.. ;-) > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > I had to tap on a 14t Sunstar sprocket. I just figured that I had a > > shaft on the large end of tolerances and a sprocket on the short > end (no > > jokes please). > > > > I used a lead-shot mallet and tapped lightly using a large socket > for a > > driver. Serious side loading on the countershaft has got to be bad, > but > > I don't know what would break first. > > > > How was 15-45? I've been using 14-43 for the last 12,000mi, 15-45 > would > > be nearly the same but 1" shorter wheelbase. > > > > Devon > > > > dooden wrote: > > > > > > Anybody know if the front sprocket for a A15 (retainer nut) will > fit > > > the Pre-96's (retaining plate with bolts) ? > > > > > > I ordered back X-mas time front (14T) and rear (45T w/ Mud Slots) > > > sprockets from Sprocket Specialists, the rear sprocket fit > perfect, > > > however the front sprocket they sent me ( # 613S-14 ) has the > holes > > > for a retainer plate and did not slip on the shaft at all, maybe I > > > could have tapped it with a hammer, but figured I would try the > 15/45 > > > combo for a while and write Sprocket Specialists. > > > > > > Is it normal to have to tap new sprockets on a fairly new bike ? > > > > > > The shaft diameter appears larger, when holding the two sprockets > > > together, not by alot however. > > > > > > Today received a response that the part # 613S-14 is correct for > my > > > bike. Of course they offered to replace it if it dont fit. > > > > > > Figured I would toss this at the collective. > > > > > > Dooden (1 of 15) > > > A15 > > > > > > Resistance is futile, you will get dirty and fall. > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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