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wpsteig
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Post by wpsteig » Tue May 28, 2002 9:42 pm

Allied Van Lines teased me and said they would deliver my bike today, then I got bumped. :-( Now I got to wring my hands and suck my teeth for another day or two. While I wait, I've got a couple of questions. Speaking of getting bumped, how hard is it to bump start the big thumper by yourself? Any tricks? Anyone use those bluish front lights? They sure do grab my attention. I took my riders safety class this weekend and during the orange cone slalom we were instructed to keep the throttle steady and control speed using the rear brake. It would never have occured me to pit the brake against the gas, but it does keep the bike on a more even keel. Do any of you real KLR riders use this technique while riding in the field? Pat (still waiting by the phone)

Jim Priest
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Post by Jim Priest » Tue May 28, 2002 9:54 pm

Actually when I'm riding through a field I'm usually just WFO :) Until I hit a ditch or rock hidden in the tall grass. jim (A12)
On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, 10:42:31 PM, wpsteig wrote: w> slalom we were instructed to keep the throttle steady and control w> speed using the rear brake. It would never have occured me to pit w> the brake against the gas, but it does keep the bike on a more even w> keel. w> Do any of you real KLR riders use this technique while riding in the w> field?

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Post by dooden » Tue May 28, 2002 11:35 pm

Actually I tend to use the back brake when cornering on the street, and keep the engine torqued up a bit. Reckon im affraid that large single with stall when I have the bike leaned in a corner. One of these days I will get that 14t/45t sprocket set installed, and hope that will allow slower speeds without slipping the clutch alot. Duden *thump*thump*thump*
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "wpsteig" wrote: > Allied Van Lines teased me and said they would deliver my bike today, > then I got bumped. > > :-( > > Now I got to wring my hands and suck my teeth for another day or two. > > While I wait, I've got a couple of questions. > > Speaking of getting bumped, how hard is it to bump start the big > thumper by yourself? > Any tricks? > > Anyone use those bluish front lights? They sure do grab my attention. > > I took my riders safety class this weekend and during the orange cone > slalom we were instructed to keep the throttle steady and control > speed using the rear brake. It would never have occured me to pit > the brake against the gas, but it does keep the bike on a more even > keel. > > Do any of you real KLR riders use this technique while riding in the > field? > > > Pat (still waiting by the phone)

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Post by esteban80127 » Wed May 29, 2002 1:22 am

I do not want to generalize, but I have heard some weird stuff from MSF Instructors. There was one who would give you hell unless you used all 4 fingers on the front brake lever. If you used less you would not get past his course. I often use just 2... not on the KLR though. (on the Ducati & KTM) As for the gas and rear brake technique... sounds tough on the rear pads. I do not intentionally ride with the rear brake and gas on at the same time during my 35 years of motorbiking. But I might in order to pass that MSF course. Steve
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "wpsteig" wrote: > I took my riders safety class this weekend and during the orange cone > slalom we were instructed to keep the throttle steady and control > speed using the rear brake. It would never have occured me to pit > the brake against the gas, but it does keep the bike on a more even > keel. > > Do any of you real KLR riders use this technique while riding in the > field? > > > Pat (still waiting by the phone)

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Post by pdstreeter@mmm.com » Wed May 29, 2002 8:39 am

esteban80127" >I do not want to generalize, but I have heard some weird stuff from >MSF Instructors. There was one who would give you hell unless you >used all 4 fingers on the front brake lever. If you used less you >would not get past his course. I often use just 2... not on the KLR >though. (on the Ducati & KTM) >As for the gas and rear brake technique... sounds tough on the rear >pads. >I do not intentionally ride with the rear brake and gas on at the >same time during my 35 years of motorbiking. But I might in order to >pass that MSF course.
I was an MSF instuctor for 6 years, so I'll comment on this. MSF does teach using all 4 fingers on the front brakes. The training bikes do not have 2 finger brakes, and you don't want your fingers squeezed by the brake lever. The biggest reason however, is that it gives better control for a learner. All four fingers on the throttle for good throttle control, all four fingers on the brake for good brake control. If you use all 4 fingers on the brake, you're more likely to roll off the throttle, and less likely to keep the throttle rolled on when you're trying to brake. Once you're experienced, do it any way you want. As far using the rear brake with the throttle, this is only recommended at very low, parking lot speeds for U-turns and the cone slalom. Again, it gives good throttle control with all fingers on the throttle, and helps slow you down. Paul Streeter