modified corbin seat

[Pete Wittstruck]

I'm looking for info on GPS units and their capabilities. What kind of information can be obtained from a GPS? Do they show speed and distance to/from points? Thanks in advance. Pete Wittstruck A16 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Kelly]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 07:18:57AM -0800, Pete Wittstruck wrote:

> I'm looking for info on GPS units and their capabilities. What kind > of information can be obtained from a GPS? Do they show speed and > distance to/from points? Thanks in advance.

What you want is a Garmin GPS-V. Trust me. Yes, the GPS will show you how fast you are moving. It will show you a map of where you are. It will tell you how far and long to get where you are going. It will tell you where you have been. And the new feature of the GPS-V is it will tell you what roads to take. About $410 mailorder, $500 in stores. Mine arrived at noon today. Have had a GPS III+ for over 2 years. Paid $369 for it at Walmart. Then $25 for mounting bracket and $90 for Mapsource software, and $20 for cigarette lighter power cord. All of which were included in the GPS-V. This is one place I used it: http://home.hiwaay.net/~dkelly/PC800/pc800-gps.jpg -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

[Tom Rothoehler]

Check out the Garmin eTrex Vista, it's a little cheaper at $375MSRP vs. $536MSRP for the GPS V. Not only is it cheaper but also includes a built in electronic compass (don't have to worry about taking that silly magnetic compass 10 meters from the bike) and a barometric altimeter. The altimeter is kinda cool as it tracks altitude over time and produces a neat looking graph. I wonder if its accurate enough to track some of those big jumps... lol Here's the link: http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ Oh yeah, its WAAS enabled so you can get On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 07:18:57AM -0800, Pete Wittstruck wrote: > I'm looking for info on GPS units and their capabilities. What kind > of information can be obtained from a GPS? Do they show speed and > distance to/from points? Thanks in advance. What you want is a Garmin GPS-V. Trust me. Yes, the GPS will show you how fast you are moving. It will show you a map of where you are. It will tell you how far and long to get where you are going. It will tell you where you have been. And the new feature of the GPS-V is it will tell you what roads to take. About $410 mailorder, $500 in stores. Mine arrived at noon today. Have had a GPS III+ for over 2 years. Paid $369 for it at Walmart. Then $25 for mounting bracket and $90 for Mapsource software, and $20 for cigarette lighter power cord. All of which were included in the GPS-V. This is one place I used it: http://home.hiwaay.net/~dkelly/PC800/pc800-gps.jpg -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[David Kelly]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 12:42:32PM -0800, Tom Rothoehler wrote:

> > Check out the Garmin eTrex Vista, it's a little cheaper at $375MSRP vs. > $536MSRP for the GPS V. Not only is it cheaper but also includes a built in > electronic compass (don't have to worry about taking that silly magnetic > compass 10 meters from the bike) and a barometric altimeter. The altimeter > is kinda cool as it tracks altitude over time and produces a neat looking > graph. I wonder if its accurate enough to track some of those big jumps... > lol > > Here's the link: > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ > > Oh yeah, its WAAS enabled so you can get backtrack and find that missing sub-frame bolt...

The eTrex Vista is less expensive because Garmin has deleted some things which would add much more cost separately. The GPS V comes with cables and software to upload much enhanced maps. This was $90 extra to purchase for my III+ and made all the world of difference for planning and entering routes. The V only includes unlock code for one region which doesn't include everywhere I wander and didn't know how much each region cost separately so spent another $92.50 for the North America All Unlock code. The GPS V lacks barometric altimeter but is able to glean that data from the satellites. My III+ reported altitude within 50 feet of the signs on the Cherahala Skyway last summer. The III+ and V are in a very good package for mobile use. Not ideal for hiking. The eTrex is optimized for hiking. As a result the V includes a mobile mounting bracket and power cable. About $50 to purchase same for eTrex. WAAS consumes much more power and CPU cycles than with WAAS disabled. While it can add accuracy in my first 30 minutes was not able to lock on a WAAS satellite. So don't count on it always being available. On the V Garmin cautions screen updates and routing instructions will be slower with WAAS enabled. So far the one feature of my III+ lacking that I will miss in the V is a volt meter. Always thought it nice to be able to read the battery voltage directly rather than sombody's idea of a "gas gauge" for battery life. Also read vehicle voltage when connected. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

[bradmorris64]

Tom, I originally bought the Vista and liked in very much, for about 30 minutes. I then took it back and ordered the V which I love. The GPS V offers auto routing (residential address level with MapSource V.4) and the altimeter is acurate enough. It also has a compass though it requires slight motion to determine your direction, but you will definately know which direction you're heading. It comes with computer cables, cigarette lighter adapter, a very nice dash board mounting system, and a detailed cities CD that includes mapping software (though not as detailed as I would like). The only complaint I have with the GPS V is that it's display is not near as sharp as the Vista. It seems like the background is a little to dark. But other than that. No complaints. Plus, you can get it for around $450 brand new with very little searching. Try www.cycoactive.com. I got mine for $469 from them. I also got the Ram Mount for my KLR. It works great! Just rig up a cigarette lighter plug ($10 from WalMart) behind the fairing and remove the units batteries before you ride. Good luck, Brad

> Check out the Garmin eTrex Vista, it's a little cheaper at $375MSRP vs. > $536MSRP for the GPS V. Not only is it cheaper but also includes a built in > electronic compass (don't have to worry about taking that silly magnetic > compass 10 meters from the bike) and a barometric altimeter. The altimeter > is kinda cool as it tracks altitude over time and produces a neat looking > graph. I wonder if its accurate enough to track some of those big jumps... > lol > > Here's the link: > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ > > Oh yeah, its WAAS enabled so you can get backtrack and find that missing sub-frame bolt... > > Tom.

[David Kelly]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 10:10:12PM -0000, bradmorris64 wrote:

> Tom, > > I originally bought the Vista and liked in very much, for about 30 > minutes. I then took it back and ordered the V which I love. The GPS V > offers auto routing (residential address level with MapSource V.4) and > the altimeter is acurate enough. It also has a compass though it > requires slight motion to determine your direction, but you will > definately know which direction you're heading. It comes with computer > cables, cigarette lighter adapter, a very nice dash board mounting > system, and a detailed cities CD that includes mapping software > (though not as detailed as I would like). The only complaint I have > with the GPS V is that it's display is not near as sharp as the Vista. > It seems like the background is a little to dark. But other than that. > No complaints. Plus, you can get it for around $450 brand new with > very little searching. Try www.cycoactive.com. I got mine for $469 > from them. I also got the Ram Mount for my KLR. It works great! Just > rig up a cigarette lighter plug ($10 from WalMart) behind the fairing > and remove the units batteries before you ride.

My GPS V arrived today from http://www.advancedgps.com/ for $410. Took 8 days to ship for free. Said they were holding my order waiting for a handlebar mount to arrive, why was it like pulling teeth to get somebody to say so? Instructed them to ship anyway and cancel or backorder the mount. Package arrived over night, full order. Also bought the City Select All-Unlock. Am disappointed in the City Select maps. Is my understanding City Select is required for turn by turn routing. Am far happier with the detail of Roads & Recreation which I have been using for my III+. The MapSource program is the same and allows for all the maps you own to be used. Just for kicks I've selected just under 19MB of data and am uploading it right now. Clock ran backwards until it reached 46:36, stopped a bit, and is now counting down to completion. Another 33 minutes to go... Anyway, am uploading a mix of CS and R&R which mostly overlap. Will see how hard it is to switch between or if the GPS could use both. With any luck one can route by CS and view by R&R. Garmin's City Select Region thing lists cities covered. Now I think I understand literally those cities are covered and not much in between. R&R has most paved roads and some unpaved. Not CS. Was pleased to see the cigarette lighter power cord was included. Was debating purchase of another. I have the "other" pivot mount for my III+ but think I could get to like this new one. May need some more so I can have bases in all my vehicles. The V display is much sharper than the III+. Be sure to play with the contrast adjustment. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

[Tom Rothoehler]

Thanks for detailed info regarding the GPS V, it sounds like you're pretty happy with it. I didn't realize that the eTrex didn't come with all that hardware. I do a lot of hiking/fishing in some remote areas, what is the GPS V like in hand held hiking situations? I know the website pictures might be a little deceiving, but it looks bigger than the eTrex is that true? T. -----Original Message----- From: bradmorris64 [mailto:bradmorris64@...] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:10 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR-GPS advice Tom, I originally bought the Vista and liked in very much, for about 30 minutes. I then took it back and ordered the V which I love. The GPS V offers auto routing (residential address level with MapSource V.4) and the altimeter is acurate enough. It also has a compass though it requires slight motion to determine your direction, but you will definately know which direction you're heading. It comes with computer cables, cigarette lighter adapter, a very nice dash board mounting system, and a detailed cities CD that includes mapping software (though not as detailed as I would like). The only complaint I have with the GPS V is that it's display is not near as sharp as the Vista. It seems like the background is a little to dark. But other than that. No complaints. Plus, you can get it for around $450 brand new with very little searching. Try www.cycoactive.com. I got mine for $469 from them. I also got the Ram Mount for my KLR. It works great! Just rig up a cigarette lighter plug ($10 from WalMart) behind the fairing and remove the units batteries before you ride. Good luck, Brad

> Check out the Garmin eTrex Vista, it's a little cheaper at $375MSRP > vs. $536MSRP for the GPS V. Not only is it cheaper but also includes > a built in electronic compass (don't have to worry about taking that > silly magnetic compass 10 meters from the bike) and a barometric > altimeter. The altimeter is kinda cool as it tracks altitude over > time and produces a neat looking graph. I wonder if its accurate > enough to track some of those big jumps... lol > > Here's the link: > http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ > > Oh yeah, its WAAS enabled so you can get backtrack and find that missing sub-frame bolt... > > Tom.

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[David Kelly]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 03:31:36PM -0800, Tom Rothoehler wrote:

> Thanks for detailed info regarding the GPS V, it sounds like you're pretty > happy with it. I didn't realize that the eTrex didn't come with all that > hardware. I do a lot of hiking/fishing in some remote areas, what is the > GPS V like in hand held hiking situations? I know the website pictures > might be a little deceiving, but it looks bigger than the eTrex is that > true?

The thing is that its not flat. Its 2" high. 2" deep. Then cut a 45 degree bevel and put the display and buttons on the slope. Is an excellent shape for mobile mounting but feels a bit funny in the hand. $%^@(!@* pushed the wrong button in MapSource thinking I'd download from the GPS rather than upload to it just to see if it properly sucked a list of maps out of the GPS. Something failed because in a few seconds it delted 50 minutes (18.7MB) of map uploads. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

[Tom Rothoehler]

Hey David, The GPS V uses a serial cable, not USB right? Tom. -----Original Message----- From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@...] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:59 PM To: Tom Rothoehler Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject:

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 03:31:36PM -0800, Tom Rothoehler wrote: > Thanks for detailed info regarding the GPS V, it sounds like you're > pretty happy with it. I didn't realize that the eTrex didn't come > with all that hardware. I do a lot of hiking/fishing in some remote > areas, what is the GPS V like in hand held hiking situations? I know > the website pictures might be a little deceiving, but it looks bigger > than the eTrex is that true? The thing is that its not flat. Its 2" high. 2" deep. Then cut a 45 degree bevel and put the display and buttons on the slope. Is an excellent shape for mobile mounting but feels a bit funny in the hand. $%^@(!@* pushed the wrong button in MapSource thinking I'd download from the GPS rather than upload to it just to see if it properly sucked a list of maps out of the GPS. Something failed because in a few seconds it delted 50 minutes (18.7MB) of map uploads. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

[Conall O'Brien]

>From: "whalenwp" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Modified Corbin Seat >Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:00:33 -0000 > >Third Style Corbin, > >Earlier this week there were a few post about a different Corbin >seat. It was not the standard dip or flat. One person said that it >was a one of a kind them someone else said that they also have one. > >My questions are was it a Corbin and if it was will Corbin still make >that style and if so is it the same price? I am getting ready to >order a Corbin and would like to know if that style is available, >because I really liked it. > >Bill "SandShark" >Central Florida >92 KLR-650 A6

Yes, it's a Corbin. You'll need to speak with someone in customer service to see if they will make you one. I had mine done during a ride-in appt. to Hollister CA, maybe Corbin-Daytona can do the same? You have to show them how far back you want to be able to scoot back in the seat, I don't know if they will take a phone order because it's not the usual order ( dip/ no dip they can do no problem). The cost was the same, actually I paid more back then 'cause Corbin dropped the price since then. Corbin charges for a new seat cover if you have the seat reshaped a second time. Let the list know if daytona offers a ride in service would ya? Maybe a photo would help? http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/page2.html Conall _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com