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Joe
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what a difference a tooth makes!

Post by Joe » Sat Sep 29, 2001 10:17 pm

Just installed my new 16 tooth front sprockets from Arrowhead Motorsports (Thanks for the quick delivery Fred), and WOW....what a difference a tooth makes. Even at 60mph indicated, I'm cutting more than 350 rpm (with the 15 tooth stock sprocket I was getting 4000 rpm at 60mph indicated, with the 16t, I'm reading real close to 3500 rpm)! It's even better at higher speeds. Since I do about 80/20 road to dirt, and after reading some other listers' comments, I figured the 16t would better suit my riding situation. Glad I did! Joe Blanchard Kansas P.S. - I used an impact wrench and a 1 1/16" impact socket to remove and replace...worked like a charm!

cosmo_bojinski@hotmail.com
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Post by cosmo_bojinski@hotmail.com » Sun Sep 30, 2001 12:45 am

.Hey Joe, gotta agree with you on the one tooth difference, but I went the other way and run a 14 tooth year round even though my usage is probably 90/10 road to dirt.I guess I'm content to cruise a little slower. Once off road the 14 tooth made the KLR so much more controlable for me.The 10% dirt riding is 50% of my enjoyment (sorry, too much nyquil, made sense to me).Let us know your impressions of the 16 tooth off-road.I'm pretty sure some of the listers have become quick change artists and alternate between 16 and 14 teeth depending on their plans for the weekend. Ride safe.......cosmo
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Joe" wrote: > Just installed my new 16 tooth front sprockets from Arrowhead > Motorsports (Thanks for the quick delivery Fred), and WOW....what a > difference a tooth makes. > > Even at 60mph indicated, I'm cutting more than 350 rpm (with the 15 > tooth stock sprocket I was getting 4000 rpm at 60mph indicated, with > the 16t, I'm reading real close to 3500 rpm)! It's even better at > higher speeds. > > Since I do about 80/20 road to dirt, and after reading some other > listers' comments, I figured the 16t would better suit my riding > situation. Glad I did! > > Joe Blanchard > Kansas > > P.S. - I used an impact wrench and a 1 1/16" impact socket to remove > and replace...worked like a charm!

Ted Palmer
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Post by Ted Palmer » Sun Sep 30, 2001 9:42 am

Cosmo wrote: [...]
> I'm pretty sure some of the listers have become > quick change artists and alternate between 16 and 14 teeth depending > on their plans for the weekend. Ride safe.......cosmo
Perhaps the WR gearbox mod needs another airing. Mister_T Melbourne Australia

gtx
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Post by gtx » Sun Sep 30, 2001 12:32 pm

Hi Joe Have you noticed a increase in mpg? I'am running a klr600 and most of the time sit at 60 to 70[normally the latter,he,he], anyway fuel consumption is'nt great at these speeds and the 600 has a meagre tank range at best of times. ride safe Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:14 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] What a Difference a Tooth Makes! > Just installed my new 16 tooth front sprockets from Arrowhead > Motorsports (Thanks for the quick delivery Fred), and WOW....what a > difference a tooth makes. > > Even at 60mph indicated, I'm cutting more than 350 rpm (with the 15 > tooth stock sprocket I was getting 4000 rpm at 60mph indicated, with > the 16t, I'm reading real close to 3500 rpm)! It's even better at > higher speeds. > > Since I do about 80/20 road to dirt, and after reading some other > listers' comments, I figured the 16t would better suit my riding > situation. Glad I did! > > Joe Blanchard > Kansas > > P.S. - I used an impact wrench and a 1 1/16" impact socket to remove > and replace...worked like a charm! > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Post by Krgrife@aol.com » Sun Sep 30, 2001 4:18 pm

In a message dated 9/30/01 7:43:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tedp@... writes: << Perhaps the WR gearbox mod needs another airing. >> I guess that's me since I think I have the only one. The lower first gear set from the KLR 600 will transfer into the 650 at least for my "91. I know that there were some tranny changes in later models and don't know how this would effect the change. For my bike the 600 input shaft (which has the first gear input as part of the shaft) and the first gear output are interchangable. This changes the first gear from 15/34 to 15/39 which is quite noticable in slow tight going. I also carry a 14 tooth front sprocket for use on my off-pavement Baja rides. This is a mod that I only did because my cases were already split and Toby found me the used 600 gears at reasonable cost. If I hadn't been doing a rebuild anyway I probably would have just gone with sprocket changes to get the lower gearing. Regards, Kurt Grife

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Post by Bogdan Swider » Mon Oct 01, 2001 9:51 am

> Perhaps the WR gearbox mod needs another airing. > > Mister_T > Melbourne Australia > >
What's this ? Is it the 600 first gear I hope to install ? Bogdan

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Post by Bogdan Swider » Mon Oct 01, 2001 9:59 am

> > > > I guess that's me since I think I have the only one. The lower first gear > > set from the KLR 600 will transfer into the 650 at least for my "91 >
Now I know; I've talked to you about this.
> and Toby found me the used 600 gears at > reasonable cost >
Ah..... Toby or anyone else. Anyone have any info as to where I might find one of those gears ? I used to have the address for a national junk yard search; I lost it anybody have it ? Thanks in advance, Bogdan

Mark St.Hilaire, Sr

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Post by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr » Mon Oct 01, 2001 10:56 am

> Ah..... Toby or anyone else. Anyone have any info as to where I might find > one of those gears ? I used to have the address for a national junk yard > search; I lost it anybody have it ?
Bogdan, first, thanks for double-checking the Harbor Freight torque wrench link, I just ordered it. On the link, Hopefully one of these will be the one you're looking for, perhaps one of the first three...? http://www.moto-directory.com/salvage.htm http://motosite.com/cat/89 http://www.motorcity.net/Salvage_Yards/USA/ http://www.dropbears.com/bikelinks/wreckers.htm http://www.cyclesalvage.net/yard.htm http://www.indexoftheweb.com/Motorcycle_Parts.htm http://www.partfinder.com/vendorlinks.htm http://www.barryscyclesalvage.com/ Mark St.Hilaire, Sr msaint@... A15 My HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My KLR650 Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

Ted Palmer
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Post by Ted Palmer » Mon Oct 01, 2001 11:03 am

gtx (Gary) wrote:
> Have you noticed a increase in mpg? > I'am running a klr600 and most of the time sit at 60 to 70[normally the > latter,he,he], anyway fuel consumption is'nt great at these speeds and the > 600 has a meagre tank range at best of times.
I have tried a 16T sprocket in the past when the engine was younger and I don't think it made a lot of difference to mpg, but I was wanting some less revs anyway. The KLR600s have awful aerodynamics which would have more significance than a few hundred revs. Since the 600 has its torque peak at around 5000rpm, which is up near 110kmh on the road, you may find that this may be as economical as it will get at that speed. I have toured into a stiff headwind and gone onto reserve at 160km. Finding a convenient truck to tailgate ups the range to 200km before reserve. Staring at a trailer bumper for two hours is a pretty boring way to tour but it does extend the range. Once the 600 engine gets a bit tired it takes a bit more effort for it to handle the 16T sprocket. Perhaps a low front fender combined with a 16T sprocket would do the trick. Just as an experiment, you could try running without the front fender for a few (preferably dry) days to see how much difference it makes. If you really want to try minimising drag, take off whatever handguards you have as well as the mirrors. Mister_T Melbourne Australia

FGJ
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Post by FGJ » Mon Oct 01, 2001 11:20 am

> Perhaps a low front fender combined with a 16T sprocket would do the > trick. > > Just as an experiment, you could try running without the front fender > for a few (preferably dry) days to see how much difference it makes. > If you really want to try minimising drag, take off whatever > handguards you have as well as the mirrors.
Mr T A knowledgeable friend told me to get an aftermarket front fender on my KLR-600 as he said my stock one is essentially a parachute, seems logical he said some of the aftermarket ones are not only smaller, but have relief slots cut into them. I'll eventually get around to that, but I still need to get my front brake squared away with a braided stainless line and new pads, which pads do you use ? My friend also said our bikes are infamous for bad valve seals, is this your experience ? Mine is a prodigious oil burner (about 1/2 l. per 300 miles. Fred J

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