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Post by Jsherlockholmz@aol.com » Sat Aug 04, 2001 1:48 pm

I did not know Jim Young, yet I mourn his passing with many others. Death is not an easy issue to face, or deal with, yet it happens all too often to people like us (motorcyclists). To me, I don't give a damn what brand he rode, all I know is that a brother has been lost. It is times like these that we feel these emotions, so why can't we all feel them when our friends and brothers are alive? So much bashing goes on dependant on the type of bike ridden or clothing/gear worn. Who cares? As long as we ride, we are all brothers and sisters. This particular tragedy speaks volumes towards the sanity and protection of the "buddy system." I know a lot of folks like to ride alone, especially when in competitive mode. I too, have ridden that way, many times. The losses we have suffered as a group over the last several years has given me cause to reconsider this behavior. Now, I leave my wife with a copy of my map identifying the intended route, carry a cell phone in my tank bag, and inform her how long I should be gone. That is if I ride alone. I have found that I feel much safer when I ride with someone else. There is just that additional feeling of security. What really scares me, and wakes me up, is the fact that I could be Jim Young. When I lived in California, I always went riding in the boonies by myself and I crashed a few times. Luckily, I was never hurt severe enough to prevent me from making it home. When I lived in Colorado, I used to ride the mountain roads on my 120hp road burner, and I didn't exactly cruise. Once again, the Good Lord looked out for me and prevented me from becoming a lost rider. Does anyone know how Mr. Young left this world? I know it sounds like a morbid question, yet I want to learn from this. I want to make sure that I don't do what he did, if it is possible to avoid. Sometimes these things can't be avoided, but if their is a possibility, I'd like to add it to my knowledge. I'm not sure how many of you will remember this, but several years ago an Iron Butt rider passed away on the freeway either in Arizona or California. He was riding a Honda ST1100. Apparently he had a heart attack, fell off the bike, and rolled into the scrub. Strangely, the bike continued on for several miles before coming to rest straight up against a guard rail. It took days to find this brother as well. In today's society of throw away everything, the only real thing we have left is each other. I know that sometimes conversations on this list get heated and sometimes offensive. I am just as guilty as the next guy. Let us try to remember that all we really have in this life is our families and each other. I don't like Harley's, but I will always stop and try to help a stranded rider, even if he/she is on a Harley. I hope you will do the same. I am going to go reflect for a while, and say a prayer for our lost brother. May he ride the white lanes of heaven for all eternity. Jim Sherlock Austin, Texas

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Post by Dan Oaks » Sat Aug 04, 2001 8:08 pm

on 8/4/01 6:47 PM, Jsherlockholmz@... at Jsherlockholmz@... wrote:
> I did not know Jim Young, yet I mourn his passing with many others. > Death is not an easy issue to face, or deal with, yet it happens all > too often to people like us (motorcyclists). To me, I don't give a > damn what brand he rode, all I know is that a brother has been lost. > It is times like these that we feel these emotions, so why can't we > all feel them when our friends and brothers are alive? So much > bashing goes on dependant on the type of bike ridden or clothing/gear > worn. Who cares? As long as we ride, we are all brothers and sisters. > > This particular tragedy speaks volumes towards the sanity and > protection of the "buddy system." I know a lot of folks like to ride > alone, especially when in competitive mode. I too, have ridden that > way, many times. The losses we have suffered as a group over the last > several years has given me cause to reconsider this behavior. Now, I > leave my wife with a copy of my map identifying the intended route, > carry a cell phone in my tank bag, and inform her how long I should > be gone. That is if I ride alone. I have found that I feel much safer > when I ride with someone else. There is just that additional feeling > of security. > > What really scares me, and wakes me up, is the fact that I could be > Jim Young. When I lived in California, I always went riding in the > boonies by myself and I crashed a few times. Luckily, I was never > hurt severe enough to prevent me from making it home. When I lived in > Colorado, I used to ride the mountain roads on my 120hp road burner, > and I didn't exactly cruise. Once again, the Good Lord looked out for > me and prevented me from becoming a lost rider. > > Does anyone know how Mr. Young left this world? I know it sounds like > a morbid question, yet I want to learn from this. I want to make sure > that I don't do what he did, if it is possible to avoid. Sometimes > these things can't be avoided, but if their is a possibility, I'd > like to add it to my knowledge. > > I'm not sure how many of you will remember this, but several years > ago an Iron Butt rider passed away on the freeway either in Arizona > or California. He was riding a Honda ST1100. Apparently he had a > heart attack, fell off the bike, and rolled into the scrub. > Strangely, the bike continued on for several miles before coming to > rest straight up against a guard rail. It took days to find this > brother as well. > > In today's society of throw away everything, the only real thing we > have left is each other. I know that sometimes conversations on this > list get heated and sometimes offensive. I am just as guilty as the > next guy. Let us try to remember that all we really have in this life > is our families and each other. I don't like Harley's, but I will > always stop and try to help a stranded rider, even if he/she is on a > Harley. I hope you will do the same. > > I am going to go reflect for a while, and say a prayer for our lost > brother. May he ride the white lanes of heaven for all eternity. > > Jim Sherlock > Austin, Texas >
Good write, Jim. -- bierdo

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Post by Rob Smoto » Sat Aug 04, 2001 8:11 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jsherlockholmz@a... wrote about Jim Young and the dangers of riding alone, particularly in the outback... One way that would keep folks from having to mount extensive and expensive search parties and possibly provide more rapid emergency response would be to use transponders. The transponder could be activiated a few minutes after the rider separated from the bike. The activation should be preceded by some audible (or vibration) warning so that the device could be "safed" when normally getting off the bike. Of course failure to "unsafe" the transponder when getting on the bike would cause the benefit to be lost. Perhaps the transponder could be automatically "unsafed" when the bike is restarted i.e., through the use of a short range transmitter. Yep, all this hi-tech stuff is likely to cost a bit, at least initially. Also the more complicated something is the greater the opportunity to fail. The planned route with map left with friends/relatives prior to the trip is the lo-tech solution, but the problem is that some riders like to select the route on an ad hoc manner. Or they will change their mind based on nice scenery that was unknown at the outset, or bad weather is on the planned route. Whatever the reason... the planned route also has some problems and could be a red-herring misdirecting a search party and potential rescuers. For myself, when it's my time to go, I can think of far worse ways than doing what you like in a wonderful place like Colorado. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio

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Post by monahanwb@yahoo.com » Sat Aug 04, 2001 10:19 pm

I travel alone sometimes in the "outback" of the Pacific Northwest. It is unfortunate, whatever happened to Jim Young. May his soul rest in peace, I hope mine does when it's time to go. When I am alone on dirt-road backroads I frequently resist the temptation to take unknown trails because of the possibility of a minor accident becoming a life-threatening or fatal incident. One time that comes to mind was navigating some dirt roads in Idaho alone and slightly lost, and dumping the fully loaded machine on a steep uphill turn in deep silt. My water jug was crushed by the bike falling on to it. Had I not found my way out I could have been out of water for longer than is healthy. Not a good place to start to panic, either. You need to stay calm to retain sound judgement. It just doesn't take much for a minor spill to become a major issue when riding alone where no one will find you. A broken ankle, broken wrist, or a broken clutch lever could do you in, you just never know.

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Post by monahanwb@yahoo.com » Sat Aug 04, 2001 11:41 pm

May his soul rest
> in peace,
A broken ankle, broken
> wrist, or a broken clutch lever could do you in, you just never > know.
A heart attack, aneurysm, momentary loss of attention, or even a bee in the jacket while climbing a tight set of dirt switchbacks could easily do the trick. Could be anything.

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Post by Susan Moorhead » Sun Aug 05, 2001 5:31 pm

The wife and I were just discussing this unfortunate incident, and we have agreed that I will leave her my trip route, and take the cell with me when I leave for my first real road trip on the KLX on Sept. 28th. We are both in total agreement with everything you had to say, even though we never met Jim Young, we both feel a sense of loss at his passing. Another "brother" has been taken from us, he will be missed by many. Marshall & Susan Moorhead Afton, Ok
----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR: The Loss of Jim Young > I did not know Jim Young, yet I mourn his passing with many others. > Death is not an easy issue to face, or deal with, yet it happens all > too often to people like us (motorcyclists). To me, I don't give a > damn what brand he rode, all I know is that a brother has been lost. > It is times like these that we feel these emotions, so why can't we > all feel them when our friends and brothers are alive? So much > bashing goes on dependant on the type of bike ridden or clothing/gear > worn. Who cares? As long as we ride, we are all brothers and sisters. > > This particular tragedy speaks volumes towards the sanity and > protection of the "buddy system." I know a lot of folks like to ride > alone, especially when in competitive mode. I too, have ridden that > way, many times. The losses we have suffered as a group over the last > several years has given me cause to reconsider this behavior. Now, I > leave my wife with a copy of my map identifying the intended route, > carry a cell phone in my tank bag, and inform her how long I should > be gone. That is if I ride alone. I have found that I feel much safer > when I ride with someone else. There is just that additional feeling > of security. > > What really scares me, and wakes me up, is the fact that I could be > Jim Young. When I lived in California, I always went riding in the > boonies by myself and I crashed a few times. Luckily, I was never > hurt severe enough to prevent me from making it home. When I lived in > Colorado, I used to ride the mountain roads on my 120hp road burner, > and I didn't exactly cruise. Once again, the Good Lord looked out for > me and prevented me from becoming a lost rider. > > Does anyone know how Mr. Young left this world? I know it sounds like > a morbid question, yet I want to learn from this. I want to make sure > that I don't do what he did, if it is possible to avoid. Sometimes > these things can't be avoided, but if their is a possibility, I'd > like to add it to my knowledge. > > I'm not sure how many of you will remember this, but several years > ago an Iron Butt rider passed away on the freeway either in Arizona > or California. He was riding a Honda ST1100. Apparently he had a > heart attack, fell off the bike, and rolled into the scrub. > Strangely, the bike continued on for several miles before coming to > rest straight up against a guard rail. It took days to find this > brother as well. > > In today's society of throw away everything, the only real thing we > have left is each other. I know that sometimes conversations on this > list get heated and sometimes offensive. I am just as guilty as the > next guy. Let us try to remember that all we really have in this life > is our families and each other. I don't like Harley's, but I will > always stop and try to help a stranded rider, even if he/she is on a > Harley. I hope you will do the same. > > I am going to go reflect for a while, and say a prayer for our lost > brother. May he ride the white lanes of heaven for all eternity. > > Jim Sherlock > Austin, Texas >

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Post by IronJungle@Hotmail.com » Sun Aug 05, 2001 5:49 pm

Not to appear morbid or anthing, but can anybody tell me what happened? Did he hit a deer, run into a ditch, have a flat,... Pat
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Susan Moorhead" wrote: > The wife and I were just discussing this unfortunate incident, and we have > agreed that I will leave her my trip route, and take the cell with me when I > leave for my first real road trip on the KLX on Sept. 28th. > > We are both in total agreement with everything you had to say, even though > we never met Jim Young, we both feel a sense of loss at his passing. > Another "brother" has been taken from us, he will be missed by many. > > Marshall & Susan Moorhead > Afton, Ok > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 1:47 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR: The Loss of Jim Young > > > > I did not know Jim Young, yet I mourn his passing with many others. > > Death is not an easy issue to face, or deal with, yet it happens all > > too often to people like us (motorcyclists). To me, I don't give a > > damn what brand he rode, all I know is that a brother has been lost. > > It is times like these that we feel these emotions, so why can't we > > all feel them when our friends and brothers are alive? So much > > bashing goes on dependant on the type of bike ridden or clothing/gear > > worn. Who cares? As long as we ride, we are all brothers and sisters. > > > > This particular tragedy speaks volumes towards the sanity and > > protection of the "buddy system." I know a lot of folks like to ride > > alone, especially when in competitive mode. I too, have ridden that > > way, many times. The losses we have suffered as a group over the last > > several years has given me cause to reconsider this behavior. Now, I > > leave my wife with a copy of my map identifying the intended route, > > carry a cell phone in my tank bag, and inform her how long I should > > be gone. That is if I ride alone. I have found that I feel much safer > > when I ride with someone else. There is just that additional feeling > > of security. > > > > What really scares me, and wakes me up, is the fact that I could be > > Jim Young. When I lived in California, I always went riding in the > > boonies by myself and I crashed a few times. Luckily, I was never > > hurt severe enough to prevent me from making it home. When I lived in > > Colorado, I used to ride the mountain roads on my 120hp road burner, > > and I didn't exactly cruise. Once again, the Good Lord looked out for > > me and prevented me from becoming a lost rider. > > > > Does anyone know how Mr. Young left this world? I know it sounds like > > a morbid question, yet I want to learn from this. I want to make sure > > that I don't do what he did, if it is possible to avoid. Sometimes > > these things can't be avoided, but if their is a possibility, I'd > > like to add it to my knowledge. > > > > I'm not sure how many of you will remember this, but several years > > ago an Iron Butt rider passed away on the freeway either in Arizona > > or California. He was riding a Honda ST1100. Apparently he had a > > heart attack, fell off the bike, and rolled into the scrub. > > Strangely, the bike continued on for several miles before coming to > > rest straight up against a guard rail. It took days to find this > > brother as well. > > > > In today's society of throw away everything, the only real thing we > > have left is each other. I know that sometimes conversations on this > > list get heated and sometimes offensive. I am just as guilty as the > > next guy. Let us try to remember that all we really have in this life > > is our families and each other. I don't like Harley's, but I will > > always stop and try to help a stranded rider, even if he/she is on a > > Harley. I hope you will do the same. > > > > I am going to go reflect for a while, and say a prayer for our lost > > brother. May he ride the white lanes of heaven for all eternity. > > > > Jim Sherlock > > Austin, Texas > >

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