trip to colorado from martinsburg wv [nklr]

[jett@rimrockconsulting.com]

Some listers have expressed interest in hot weather jackets, so I thought I'd share my recent experience. My normal riding suit is a black Tourmaster Sport 2-piece, but a Camelback running dry on a recent 112-degree day coming back from the mountains convinced me I should find a better summer jacket. I'd tried a friend's Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket and wasn't satisfied with my perceptions of the abrasion resistance, so I ordered the BMW AirFlow jacket in silver. It was a moderate day today, temp 104, humidity 18%, so I took the jacket out for an hour of backroads and highways. Long story short, I'm very satisfied with the venting and my expectations of safety. The pricing was high, at $399, but I figured it was at least a hundred less than a perforated Vanson, which doesn't include pads. Safey: Although the jacket is fairly lightweight, the material feels tough, and surprisingly slick, which I assume helps in abrasion resistance. Pads are included for shoulders and elbows, and the back pad was $41 extra. Of particular interest were the vent areas covering the chest patches, back patches, and underside of the arms and sides by my ribcage. The vent areas are generous, and seem tough. They seem to be some kind of interlocked pattern. I'm not going to voluntarily test it, but it's my impression that the safety aspect of the jacket took precedence over the venting. Venting: It's not magic, but it's pretty good. At highway speeds with a t-shirt underneath, I didn't get a wind inside the jacket, but there was some very light airflow. As a result, it felt like standing still in the same weather, in a slight breeze. I thought that was pretty good. I didn't have the Camelbak, but if I had I could have ridden a few hours without the heat being a problem. I did get the silver jacket for its reflective capability, and think it works. The construction quality seems very good. The BMW logos are tiny and inconspicuous. Delivery was less than 48 hours for about $22. The styling is purely subjective, so I'll refer listers to the web site, to decide for themselves. The pix and full details are at the BMW Motorcycle site (http://www.bmwridersapparel.com/). Follow the Textile Suit link to the AirFlow suit. I may still add a Marsee cooling vest, and maybe the Airflow pants. Since it's highly vented, there is no pretense of waterproofness. I'd also read in another evaluation that the jacket gets pretty chilly when the temp goes under 70 degrees. Still, for the Sonoran desert in July, I'm pretty happy with it. Jett, Scottsdale, AZ

[debbie@carrabassett.net]

According to my wife this stuff is much cooler than anything she has ever worn while riding, she recently bought the airflow pants and the savanah jacket and while we thankfully haven't had ant 100 degree days to test it in the 80- degree days (with high humidity) she says it is very comfortable. I am starting to rethink the all black look myself. HOT John

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., jett@r... wrote: > Some listers have expressed interest in hot weather jackets, so I > thought I'd share my recent experience. My normal riding suit is a > black Tourmaster Sport 2-piece, but a Camelback running dry on a > recent 112-degree day coming back from the mountains convinced me I > should find a better summer jacket. > > I'd tried a friend's Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket and wasn't satisfied > with my perceptions of the abrasion resistance, so I ordered the BMW > AirFlow jacket in silver. It was a moderate day today, temp 104, > humidity 18%, so I took the jacket out for an hour of backroads and > highways. Long story short, I'm very satisfied with the venting and > my expectations of safety. The pricing was high, at $399, but I > figured it was at least a hundred less than a perforated Vanson, > which doesn't include pads. > > Safey: Although the jacket is fairly lightweight, the material feels > tough, and surprisingly slick, which I assume helps in abrasion > resistance. Pads are included for shoulders and elbows, and the back > pad was $41 extra. Of particular interest were the vent areas > covering the chest patches, back patches, and underside of the arms > and sides by my ribcage. The vent areas are generous, and seem tough. > They seem to be some kind of interlocked pattern. I'm not going to > voluntarily test it, but it's my impression that the safety aspect of > the jacket took precedence over the venting. > > Venting: It's not magic, but it's pretty good. At highway speeds with > a t-shirt underneath, I didn't get a wind inside the jacket, but > there was some very light airflow. As a result, it felt like standing > still in the same weather, in a slight breeze. I thought that was > pretty good. I didn't have the Camelbak, but if I had I could have > ridden a few hours without the heat being a problem. I did get the > silver jacket for its reflective capability, and think it works. > > The construction quality seems very good. The BMW logos are tiny and > inconspicuous. Delivery was less than 48 hours for about $22. The > styling is purely subjective, so I'll refer listers to the web site, > to decide for themselves. The pix and full details are at the BMW > Motorcycle site (http://www.bmwridersapparel.com/). Follow the > Textile Suit link to the AirFlow suit. I may still add a Marsee > cooling vest, and maybe the Airflow pants. Since it's highly vented, > there is no pretense of waterproofness. I'd also read in another > evaluation that the jacket gets pretty chilly when the temp goes > under 70 degrees. Still, for the Sonoran desert in July, I'm pretty > happy with it. > > Jett, Scottsdale, AZ

[svnorcal@yahoo.com]

Great report on what looks like a great product. I also just purchased a hot weather jacket. Whil;e at Laguna Seca this year for the WSK, my Vanson jacket was too hot and cumbersome to wear. I happened on a Dainese Aeroflow jacket. It is Black mesh with mesh liner. Came with ce elbows and shoulders. Back is optional, which they were out of. I'm ordering the back. For those 90 to 100+ days, this gives me the confidence I want and the comfort to bear the heat in slow traffic or walking around. Price was 200 plus 73 for the back. Laters......

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., debbie@c... wrote: > According to my wife this stuff is much cooler than anything she has > ever worn while riding, she recently bought the airflow pants and the > savanah jacket and while we thankfully haven't had ant 100 degree > days to test it in the 80- degree days (with high humidity) she says > it is very comfortable. I am starting to rethink the all black look > myself. HOT > John > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., jett@r... wrote: > > Some listers have expressed interest in hot weather jackets, so I > > thought I'd share my recent experience. My normal riding suit is a > > black Tourmaster Sport 2-piece, but a Camelback running dry on a > > recent 112-degree day coming back from the mountains convinced me I > > should find a better summer jacket. > > > > I'd tried a friend's Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket and wasn't satisfied > > with my perceptions of the abrasion resistance, so I ordered the > BMW > > AirFlow jacket in silver. It was a moderate day today, temp 104, > > humidity 18%, so I took the jacket out for an hour of backroads and > > highways. Long story short, I'm very satisfied with the venting and > > my expectations of safety. The pricing was high, at $399, but I > > figured it was at least a hundred less than a perforated Vanson, > > which doesn't include pads. > > > > Safey: Although the jacket is fairly lightweight, the material > feels > > tough, and surprisingly slick, which I assume helps in abrasion > > resistance. Pads are included for shoulders and elbows, and the > back > > pad was $41 extra. Of particular interest were the vent areas > > covering the chest patches, back patches, and underside of the arms > > and sides by my ribcage. The vent areas are generous, and seem > tough. > > They seem to be some kind of interlocked pattern. I'm not going to > > voluntarily test it, but it's my impression that the safety aspect > of > > the jacket took precedence over the venting. > > > > Venting: It's not magic, but it's pretty good. At highway speeds > with > > a t-shirt underneath, I didn't get a wind inside the jacket, but > > there was some very light airflow. As a result, it felt like > standing > > still in the same weather, in a slight breeze. I thought that was > > pretty good. I didn't have the Camelbak, but if I had I could have > > ridden a few hours without the heat being a problem. I did get the > > silver jacket for its reflective capability, and think it works. > > > > The construction quality seems very good. The BMW logos are tiny > and > > inconspicuous. Delivery was less than 48 hours for about $22. The > > styling is purely subjective, so I'll refer listers to the web > site, > > to decide for themselves. The pix and full details are at the BMW > > Motorcycle site (http://www.bmwridersapparel.com/). Follow the > > Textile Suit link to the AirFlow suit. I may still add a Marsee > > cooling vest, and maybe the Airflow pants. Since it's highly > vented, > > there is no pretense of waterproofness. I'd also read in another > > evaluation that the jacket gets pretty chilly when the temp goes > > under 70 degrees. Still, for the Sonoran desert in July, I'm pretty > > happy with it. > > > > Jett, Scottsdale, AZ

[fireball@heaslet.com]

I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport isn't very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice to pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden the full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees F, and it has performed well in all humidities. The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they don't like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners were installed. All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in the summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review of Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... www.motoport.com Fireball

[glenn@xmission.com]

I have to second the plug for motoport. They're custom making me a body guard jacket and only charging me an extra $50.00 to do it. They are very friendly and helpful-- a pleasure to deal with. I can't wait to get the jacket. Sure no abrasion protection to speak of, but for off-road and around town should be awesome. Glenn

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., fireball@h... wrote: > I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport isn't > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice to > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden the > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they don't > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners were > installed. > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in the > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review of > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > www.motoport.com > > Fireball

[Conall O'Brien]

I'll also say that I'm very happy with my Ultra II cordura suit and pants by Motoport. I've been using them for 7 yrs. Conall

>From: glenn@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Summer Jacket - BMW AirFlow >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 03:58:36 -0000 > >I have to second the plug for motoport. They're custom making me a >body guard jacket and only charging me an extra $50.00 to do it. They >are very friendly and helpful-- a pleasure to deal with. I can't >wait to get the jacket. Sure no abrasion protection to speak of, but >for off-road and around town should be awesome. > >Glenn > > >--- In DSN_klr650@y..., fireball@h... wrote: > > I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport >isn't > > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice >to > > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden >the > > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they >don't > > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners >were > > installed. > > > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in >the > > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review >of > > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > > www.motoport.com > > > > Fireball > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: >http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Tobin Slide Lampson]

Yeah......that's just cause you never sweat Fireball........ fireball@... wrote:

> I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport isn't > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice to > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden the > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they don't > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners were > installed. > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in the > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review of > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > www.motoport.com > > Fireball > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[fireball@heaslet.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Tobin Slide Lampson wrote:

> Yeah......that's just cause you never sweat Fireball........

Maybe Fireball doesn't sweat, but my supple body glistens around you, Slide. Every time. It all started when I saw you stroke that BMW Dakar... Jennifer

[Tom Witt]

There's the Motorcycle AMA Motorcycle Hall of Fame Museum just East of Columbus Ohio and not very far off the I-70 path. Haven't been there myself but have been wanting to see it. Details here: http://www.ama-cycle.org/museum/ Tom (Southwestern Ohio) 2000 Kawasaki KLR650 1996 Triumph Trophy 900 BRG 1993 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "James L. Miller Jr." wrote:

> Sometime in the near future I'll be heading out to see my brother > near Denver. Anything I need to see along the way? I'm going to > prefer to do about a 10 day trip, with about 500-700 miles per day, > maybe more or less if I feel like it. If I get a wild hair, I might > even try for an Iron Butt, but I don't think my butt could handle

it

> anymore. My Savannah Ga to Pittsburgh in 10 hours days are over, > but I do like to ride. Anyway, trying to keep about 50%-50% main

and

> back roads, are there any suggestions from the group on > where/what/why. My route so far looks like I'll be > heading out on I-70. Any suggestions, not too far out of the way > please, that I might enjoy? My trip out will be a quickie, but

I'll

> take my time getting back. I've got almost 200hrs of leave, and I > need to kill (only allowed to kill) about 40 hours. Leaving on a > Friday afternoon, returning about 10 days later. Any suggestions, > please feel free to contact me. > Thanks > Jim Miller