big bore kit for klr?

[Ric Merry]

...just had Office Depot print out a price ticket for the non-existent III+ and took it to the Wal-Mart next door. 5 minutes later walked out with their $349 III+ for $99. (Best Buy matches prices too) I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others. As always, YMMV Ric Merry Western gateway to the North Cascades 97ZG1K2LR650A7 www.concours.org/ric/>

[Jack Ballard]

> > >I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only >run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others. >As always, YMMV > >Ric Merry >Western gateway to the North Cascades >97ZG1K2LR650A7

Is that a big deal Rick? Seriously. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I don't know anything about GPS's but have a lot of pilot friends who use the Garmin brand. They seem to be the most popular so I'm thinking that their Mapsource Roads and Recreation CD might be all one would ever need? Or is that a misconception?

[Nassif, Joe]

Ric Merry comments;

> I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only > run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others.

I don't know about know others, but I do know based on my testing out of my new Office Depot G-III+, that you can't load ANY map areas into it from the Map Source MetroGuide CD. I use MetroGuide for my Street Pilot, but will have to run out now and purchase the R&R CD if I want enhanced information for the III+. For KLR content, The III+ mounts on my KLR DS dash (obtained from Rider Warehouse)much more conveniently that the SP does......(:^) cheers Joe Nassif SFNM A13

[rhefferan@yahoo.com]

I have a Garmin 12MAP which is pretty comparable (internal feature- wise) with the III+. I have TOPO! mapping software which only provides waypoint programing between the software and the unit. TOPO! offered better printed map features and detail than others for my money at the time. It may be true that Garmins Map Source is the only way to enhance the internal map display, but I would expect other software makers to offer that ability. You'd have to research that. As for the chance of getting a III+ for $99, I just checked www.officedepot.com and found the EMAP for $99.88 which is a terrific deal. The III+ $289, which is a great price also. The EMAP could be a better choice for many, check the features. If I had it to do over I'd get a EMAP now. Heck, I might just do it anyway and sell my 12MAP. Anyone interested? Rex A7

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Nassif, Joe" wrote: > Ric Merry comments; > > > I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only > > run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others. > > > I don't know about know others, but I do know based on my testing out of my > new Office Depot G-III+, that you can't load ANY map areas into it from the > Map Source MetroGuide CD. I use MetroGuide for my Street Pilot, but will > have to run out now and purchase the R&R CD if I want enhanced information > for the III+. > > For KLR content, The III+ mounts on my KLR DS dash (obtained from Rider > Warehouse)much more conveniently that the SP does......(:^) > > cheers > > Joe Nassif > SFNM > A13

[Backroad Bandit]

I just checked www.officedepot.com and found

> the EMAP for $99.88 which is a terrific deal. The III+ $289, which

is

> a great price also. The EMAP could be a better choice for many,

check

> the features. If I had it to do over I'd get a EMAP now. Heck, I > might just do it anyway and sell my 12MAP. Anyone interested? >

Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should I walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate on the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?

[Mark Wilson]

> Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should I > walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate on > the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?

I think the emap is the easiest gps I've used. And it only needs 2 battereies. I have the Garmin MapSource Topo maps. It was easy to load the topo maps in it. It's nice to have out on the lake, in my boat, not on the klr. That is a great price on them. MotorMark

[Backroad Bandit]

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Mark Wilson" wrote:

> > > Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot.

Should I

> > walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally

illiterate on

> > the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?

MotorMark, I will take your recommendation, and tomorrow night will walk over to Office Depot and see if I can get one. Thanks. It's too late now, and I have too much tequila in me to go shopping right now, I'd buy anything! ps....still using GOOP to fix everything.

[rhefferan@yahoo.com]

The EMAP may be better suited for Street use than off-road. Mostly due to ruggedness, I'm not sure. It seems to cover all the natural features (such as lakes, streams) that are in the III+ base map (built-in map). However, it has an important feature that the III+ does not, programable memory cartidges! 8 or 16MB as opposed to 1.44MB. Go to this page: http://www.garmin.com/products/emap/ At the bottom is a product comparison link. Compare the models and make your own choice. It looks to me about the only things it doesn't equal or exceed the III+ or 12MAP is in the battery life (power it to the bike) and waterproof areas. It's still waterproof, just a different level (IPX2 vs IPX7, whatever that is). As for ease of use? If you can learn to use the many features of a PCS cell phone or your computer, you can learn to use a GPS. It's just another set of details and a technology language. It helps to understand maps and navigation beforehand. But you learned your computer pretty well, right? If not maybe, you can find someone you know who could help out. Rex --- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Backroad Bandit"

> Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should

I

> walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate

on

> the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?

[CrazyDave]

Garmin now has the 32, 64, and 128 meg chips for the Emap and the Street Pilots, the 128 meg chip is around $400.00, thats more than the unit. crazydave

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 05:34:19 -0000, rhefferan@... wrote: > The EMAP may be better suited for Street use than off-road. Mostly > due to ruggedness, I'm not sure. It seems to cover all the natural > features (such as lakes, streams) that are in the III+ base map > (built-in map). However, it has an important feature that the III+ > does not, programable memory cartidges! 8 or 16MB as opposed to > 1.44MB. Go to this page: > http://www.garmin.com/products/emap/ > At the bottom is a product comparison link. Compare the models and > make your own choice. It looks to me about the only things it doesn't > equal or exceed the III+ or 12MAP is in the battery life (power it to > the bike) and waterproof areas. It's still waterproof, just a > different level (IPX2 vs IPX7, whatever that is). As for ease of use? > If you can learn to use the many features of a PCS cell phone or your > computer, you can learn to use a GPS. It's just another set of > details and a technology language. It helps to understand maps and > navigation beforehand. But you learned your computer pretty well, > right? If not maybe, you can find someone you know who could help out. > > Rex _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

[Ted Palmer]

* Deks* wrote: [much modified 600]

> He had to go that much cause the cylinder was damaged (inside) and it was > the only way to save the engine from junk.

Uh huh. I can imagine the bigger bore was necessary, but the rest of the mods sound more like it was fun to see how far the engine could be modified.

> Still, it melted due to > overheating a few thousand kms later. The rider "killed" it making high rpms > even though my friend told him not to go that high.

Interesting, any good KLR600 owner knows that the 600 has more radiator area than a 650. Whatever, the modified 600 must have been making loads of power to overstress the cooling system. I have to wonder if the motor actually detonated itself to death instead. 5mm skimmed off the head would make a big difference to the compression ratio, and then would open up cans of worms labelled "cam timing", "piston to valve clearance", "head gasket sealing", among plenty of others. Mister_T