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Bill Watson
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chain question

Post by Bill Watson » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:47 pm

Jeff, Just to tie two things together - I was mentioning yesterday that the stock chain tends to be the longest-lasting. It is made by EK. Then Greg May posted a similar experience: "Hi Jeff, the longest lived o-ring chains that I've used both on my street bikes and on my KDX200 have been made by EK" For what it's worth. Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jim Douglas
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Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2000 5:01 pm

chain question

Post by Jim Douglas » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:14 am

roncriswell@... wrote:
> > I like my driveshaft Conourse. No WD, no Chain Wax, no nada. Just > check the oil very occasionally. 100 ponies ain't bad either. > > Criswell > On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:46 AM, LDHunter wrote: > > > Rev, > > > > Yep... I have a ZX10R and expect chain life to be a bit shorter > > than on my > > KLR... > > > > Might have something to do with the extra horsepower and torque it > > has. ;) > > > > I don't know if I'll ever get used to the throttle response on that > > beast... > > YEOW!!! > > > > I jump on it every once in awhile when I need to know that I'm > > still alive > > for sure... It usually doesn't take long even for this old 57yr old > > body to > > wake up and feel the rush... ;) > > > > $bob$ > > > > I've found that if I lube my chains (this is ZX9R stuff, > > sportbikes) I'd get > > about 18K miles out of them. If I don't lubricate them at all, I'd get > > about 18K miles out of them. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
But theat bike is known is have weak suspension and terrible through the whoops...................... furthermore it's one of the hardest bikes to do a back-flip on!

roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
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chain question

Post by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:16 am

Yeah you are correct. You really have to get a good run at it to do the backflip and the whoops are Hell. It might help to wheelie over them but everybody knows drive shaft bikes can't wheelie. Enough beer you can do .......... almost ..... anything on any bike. Why my Harley buddy says any bike will go anywhere any other bike will go. He saw pictures of Hogs doing enduros in the 30's and 40's and that is proof by God. Er .... I bet they didn't go where I did when I attempted to compete in trials on my Hodaka (17 inch wheels - yuck). My buddies on Bultaco Sherpa T's and Montesa Cotas ........ er .... did much better than I did. Criswell
> > > > But theat bike is known is have weak suspension and terrible > through the > whoops...................... > furthermore it's one of the hardest bikes to do a back-flip on! > > >
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Dave Svoboda
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Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2000 11:36 am

chain question

Post by Dave Svoboda » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:28 pm

I use Tri-Flow whenever the chain look dry. Doesn't gunk up too badly. Cleans and softens the rubber o-rings. Okay, it's a bicycle thing. So sue me. - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo At 10:47 AM 7/15/2008, Bill Watson wrote:
>Well, won't this generate discussion for quite a while. > >My .02: chain quality does matter, in the past I've purchased >"cheap" $20 chains that needed adjustment every 2,000 miles, and on >the other end of the spectrum, it appears the factory Kawasaki chain >is the longest-lasting (and priciest at $140-ish, I might add). I >went 12,000 miles before the first adjustment, and am still on the >stock chain at 34K miles... did you see that Cary at Schnitz Racing >is at 66K on his stock chain and sprockets? Amazing. > >Anyway, data for what it's worth. > >Bill Watson >Phoenix, AZ >Click on "The WD40 experiment" at www.xanga.com/watt_man > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
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Dave Svoboda
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chain question

Post by Dave Svoboda » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:36 pm

OOOoooh, gotta come to the rescue of my beloved Connie. First of all, "Conourse" is the worst spelling of "Concours" that I've ever seen. :-) Second, if the suspension sucks, it costs less than $1000 to upgrade to the best, including fork springs, shims, emulators, and replacement shock. Then the suspension definitely won't suck. Considering the base price of a C10, it's a good deal. I've taken my Concours "Audrey" dual-sporting, countless times. It's not as good as a KLR in the dirt. - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo At 02:14 AM 7/17/2008, Jim wrote:
>roncriswell@... wrote: > > > > I like my driveshaft Conourse. No WD, no Chain Wax, no nada. Just > > check the oil very occasionally. 100 ponies ain't bad either. > > > > Criswell > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:46 AM, LDHunter wrote: > > > > > Rev, > > > > > > Yep... I have a ZX10R and expect chain life to be a bit shorter > > > than on my > > > KLR... > > > > > > Might have something to do with the extra horsepower and torque it > > > has. ;) > > > > > > I don't know if I'll ever get used to the throttle response on that > > > beast... > > > YEOW!!! > > > > > > I jump on it every once in awhile when I need to know that I'm > > > still alive > > > for sure... It usually doesn't take long even for this old 57yr old > > > body to > > > wake up and feel the rush... ;) > > > > > > $bob$ > > > > > > I've found that if I lube my chains (this is ZX9R stuff, > > > sportbikes) I'd get > > > about 18K miles out of them. If I don't lubricate them at all, I'd get > > > about 18K miles out of them. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >But theat bike is known is have weak suspension and terrible through the >whoops...................... >furthermore it's one of the hardest bikes to do a back-flip on! > >
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roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
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chain question

Post by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:23 am

As my wife will tell you, spelling is not my best skill. On the 8th day God created spell check. I did take my Concourse up a heavy graveled corrugated road for 15 miles to a hot springs in the Pinto Canyon area north of Big Bend National Park once with another Concourse rider. Wouldn't do the River Road inside the park however. I don't like picking up 600 pound bikes or having to fix the expensive plastic. I have my preload turned all the way down on my Concourse which helps (although rougher ride). I haven't sprung for the springs yet. Criswell
On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Dave Svoboda wrote: > OOOoooh, gotta come to the rescue of my beloved Connie. > > First of all, "Conourse" is the worst spelling of "Concours" that > I've ever seen. :-) > > Second, if the suspension sucks, it costs less than $1000 to upgrade > to the best, including > fork springs, shims, emulators, and replacement shock. Then the > suspension definitely won't > suck. Considering the base price of a C10, it's a good deal. > > I've taken my Concours "Audrey" dual-sporting, countless times. It's > not as good as a KLR in the dirt. > > - Dave Svoboda, Sandy Eggo > > At 02:14 AM 7/17/2008, Jim wrote: > > >roncriswell@... wrote: > > > > > > I like my driveshaft Conourse. No WD, no Chain Wax, no nada. Just > > > check the oil very occasionally. 100 ponies ain't bad either. > > > > > > Criswell > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:46 AM, LDHunter wrote: > > > > > > > Rev, > > > > > > > > Yep... I have a ZX10R and expect chain life to be a bit shorter > > > > than on my > > > > KLR... > > > > > > > > Might have something to do with the extra horsepower and > torque it > > > > has. ;) > > > > > > > > I don't know if I'll ever get used to the throttle response > on that > > > > beast... > > > > YEOW!!! > > > > > > > > I jump on it every once in awhile when I need to know that I'm > > > > still alive > > > > for sure... It usually doesn't take long even for this old > 57yr old > > > > body to > > > > wake up and feel the rush... ;) > > > > > > > > $bob$ > > > > > > > > I've found that if I lube my chains (this is ZX9R stuff, > > > > sportbikes) I'd get > > > > about 18K miles out of them. If I don't lubricate them at > all, I'd get > > > > about 18K miles out of them. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >But theat bike is known is have weak suspension and terrible > through the > >whoops...................... > >furthermore it's one of the hardest bikes to do a back-flip on! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jeff Saline
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chain question

Post by Jeff Saline » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:47 pm

Listers, I want to thank Charlie, Chris, Jud, Bill, Todd, Jim, Eric, Robert, Ed, LD, Reverend, Greg and Dave for comments concerning my chain question. Upon further investigation not only is my chain shot but my rear sprocket took some very tough wear in the last few rides. I've taken a look at chain options and decided for me and my riding I'm gonna go with the same chain I was using. Factors that came into play when making this choice include, cost, life I'm getting from this chain, ease of installation and maintenance and the fact I have a few master links on hand. I made a wild guess that the higher tensile strength chains won't be worth it to me when factoring in the cost of the chain and purchase of a few master links. I think the current chain also works well at two chains to one rear sprocket. So... I've ordered the same chain ( DID 520V, o-ring chain in 108 links) and expect it to be here on Monday afternoon. I'm debating on whether to replace the rear tire with new since I probably have 1,000 - 1,500 smiles left on it. I could do a rear suspension lube, chain and sprocket replacement and also tire change and then be good to go for 5,000 rear end maintenance free miles. So depending on what happens this weekend that's probably what I'll do. I can have the bike rolling sans chain and Monday afternoon install a chain and be back on the road. In the meantime I suppose I'll do some more test riding of my 1979 R100RT. Thanks again for your comments. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Click to make millions by owning your own franchise. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m6iSIf9u7nDZd9X8icQJRgGZUYk4JKDtfZ8mIo2PQw2rqcs/

Hedrek
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Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 7:27 pm

chain question

Post by Hedrek » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:18 pm

Alright, I got a chain from Arrowhead. Not the continuous chain I was expecting. Bought a rivet tool for $90 and a rivet link at Cycle Gear here in Alb., took it back but kept the rivet link. Put it in and wacked it with a pointy punch to spread the copper rivet. Then took the tool back to Cycle Gear (my new favorite moto shop - they have stuff and take stuff back without argument). Bought 2 clip on master links for back up. Question - think the whacked rivet link will last?? I've been a few miles to town and back without problems, but I'm wondering. Robert Hedrick Albuquerque, NM "It's not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to terms with stupidity, and make it work for you." (Frank Zappa) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jud Jones
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chain question

Post by Jud Jones » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:46 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Hedrek wrote:
> > > > Alright, I got a chain from Arrowhead. Not the continuous chain I was expecting. Bought a
rivet tool for $90 and a rivet link at Cycle Gear here in Alb., took it back but kept the rivet link. Put it in and wacked it with a pointy punch to spread the copper rivet. Then took the tool back to Cycle Gear (my new favorite moto shop - they have stuff and take stuff back without argument). Bought 2 clip on master links for back up.
> > Question - think the whacked rivet link will last?? I've been a few miles to town and back
without problems, but I'm wondering.
>
It might hold, but why worry? Get the $20 rivet tool from MikesXS: http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.php?category_id=7.1

Eddie
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Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2000 9:42 am

chain question

Post by Eddie » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:35 pm

Has anyone had any experience with a Superlinks brand chain?
 
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