loud pipes save lives - headlight modulators

[Don S]

Riding a bike with a loud pipe(s) in the presence of others, is akin to an obnoxious pr*ck releasing a particularly devastating fart in a packed elevator. The big difference is that the obnoxious pr*ck is not as willing to own up to his deed. Whereas, the loud piper is proud of his source of pollution. To the noise fans - Don't fool yourselves. Noise is not appreciated and does not save lives. Smart driving and constant situational awareness saves lives. Don Jud Jones wrote:

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jeepaviation" wrote: > > Louder, Well...SOME people think that a loud bike makes others frown > upon our "riding freedom". Let me tell you, if you are in a large city > the BEST THING you can have is a LOUD RIDE!!!! > > But seriously now...I run a KLR with a Big Gun exhaust. I have to wear > earplugs to keep from hurting my ears. In addition, do you really > think our little KLR 650 cc is even comparable to a 96 CI V-Twin with > gutted pipes (AKA - any Harley). Let me tell you, It's not even close. > > With all the 4 wheelers out there in the morning putting on makeup, > listening to the radio, eating breakfast, drinking coffee, and talking > on their $%&#!@ Cell phones...a loud pipe is a real advantage.I have > avoided being squashed like a bug several times because of my > "excessive noise". I can tell you from experience. If you run a quiet > bike you are less protected.The car drivers don't look for you and > can't hear you. > Bullshit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kestrelfal]

Yeah! Ditto! Unnecessary, and loud noise of any kind is BAAAAD! Even the birds are sometimes too noisy! Fred

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > Riding a bike with a loud pipe(s) in the presence of others, is akin to an obnoxious pr*ck releasing a particularly devastating fart in a packed elevator. The big difference is that the obnoxious pr*ck is not as willing to own up to his deed. Whereas, the loud piper is proud of his source of pollution. > > To the noise fans - Don't fool yourselves. > > Noise is not appreciated and does not save lives. Smart driving and constant situational awareness saves lives. > > Don > > Jud Jones wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jeepaviation" wrote: > > > > Louder, Well...SOME people think that a loud bike makes others frown > > upon our "riding freedom". Let me tell you, if you are in a large city > > the BEST THING you can have is a LOUD RIDE!!!! > > > > But seriously now...I run a KLR with a Big Gun exhaust. I have to wear > > earplugs to keep from hurting my ears. In addition, do you really > > think our little KLR 650 cc is even comparable to a 96 CI V-Twin with > > gutted pipes (AKA - any Harley). Let me tell you, It's not even close. > > > > With all the 4 wheelers out there in the morning putting on makeup, > > listening to the radio, eating breakfast, drinking coffee, and talking > > on their $%&#!@ Cell phones...a loud pipe is a real advantage.I have > > avoided being squashed like a bug several times because of my > > "excessive noise". I can tell you from experience. If you run a quiet > > bike you are less protected.The car drivers don't look for you and > > can't hear you. > > > > Bullshit. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, CB wrote:

> > I have a different take on this. Just my thoughts, not trying to > convert anyone. > > It's interesting to me to see this post here. The "loud pipes

save

> lives" crowd tends to be more involved with cruisers, generally. > They often claim the loud pipes make them safer. These seem to

also

> be the same folks that wear a t-shirt, jeans and skid lid for > protection. To me, their claim of being safety focused is worn

thin

> by their other habits. > > A few observations below: > On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:05 PM, jeepaviation wrote: > > Louder, Well...SOME people think that a loud bike makes others

frown

> > upon our "riding freedom". > It does. People almost universally dislike loud motorcycles. > > > .. do you really think our little KLR 650 cc is even > > comparable to a 96 CI V-Twin with gutted pipes (AKA - any

Harley).

> > Let me tell you, It's not even close. > > The V-Twins are a problem, so it's okay for us to make it worse?

Huh?

> > With all the 4 wheelers out there in the morning putting on

makeup,

> > listening to the radio, eating breakfast, drinking coffee, and

talking

> > on their $%&#!@ Cell phones...a loud pipe is a real advantage. > There have been reputable studies done that show this is simply

not

> true in almost any situation. The pipes don't direct the sound

where

> you need it -- in front of you. Unless of course you've turned

the

> pipes around to they point in front of the motorcycle. (in which > case they may work great and probably scare the heck out of a lot

of

> people.) The exception to this seems to be when you're riding

next

> to someone and they attempt to come over into your lane. This > situation is easily avoided though just by riding defensively. > > Planning ahead, practicing emergency maneuvers and riding

defensively

> are much better options for keeping oneself healthy. And, it

won't

> piss off everyone within a hundred yards. > > LIke I said, just my 2 cents.. > > Ride safe and enjoy. > > Clark >

Well said, Clark. My personal take after surviving 38 years on the street with stock pipes is that good riding habits are what keep you alive, and loud pipes always piss people off. If loud worked, wouldn't we all have sirens? A good LOUD horn is all the noise I've needed to stay upright. Loud pipes wouldn't have prevented the two times I've been hit by a car. People with loud pipes seem to forget there are pedestrians and others who aren't even driving but are suffering from their noise while the rider wears earplugs to protect himself from excess noise. Kind of like putting on a gas mask, then releasing poison gas--"Gee, it's not bothering me!" __Arden

[Stuart Mumford]

> -----Original Message----- > > Every time I hear one, I recall the line from Macbeth: "...a tale > told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." >

I drilled about a dozen 3/8" holes in my header pipe and right before the muffler. Lot better flow and sound, bike gets better mileage and at least 5 more HP. Thanks CA Stu

[Don S]

Hey Stu. Who wudda thunk it? By the way, the 5 hp you gained, was that at the rear wheel or at the header? Don Stuart Mumford wrote:

> -----Original Message----- > > Every time I hear one, I recall the line from Macbeth: "...a tale > told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." >

I drilled about a dozen 3/8" holes in my header pipe and right before the muffler. Lot better flow and sound, bike gets better mileage and at least 5 more HP. Thanks CA Stu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James W. Flower]

Stu-- Give details please, or post pix? Thanks-- James

> I drilled about a dozen 3/8" holes in my header pipe and right before

the

>muffler. Lot better flow and sound, bike gets better mileage and at

least 5

>more HP. > Thanks >CA Stu

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[Don Bittle]

Can't be done anyway. The Kisan has an electric eye that senses night and won't work after dark. don a17

On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:18 AM, jokerloco9@... wrote: > I believe that that the modulators aren't legal for NIGHT use. > > Jeff A20 > voltage when the modulator is off. > > (b) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]