wont start cold

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guymanbro
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klr650: :> how do you do it ? <:

Post by guymanbro » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:48 am

No punchline, I think the guy in the Volvo X-country had a speedo that was off or he just thought he was going 100 mph. I don't claim to have gone that fast but maybe the hand of god was giving me a little push... I'm pretty sure the speedo on my KLR just did what it did because of the broken cable. It was on a looooong downhill in the Canadian Rockies. If I remember correctly it was around 6500-7000 rpm, still not quite redline. da Vermonster
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > OK, I'll bite... > > 120 MPH? I believe you, but that MUST have been a downhill. And over > redline too. > > What's the punch line? > > > Robert P. Wichert > ======================================================== > > On 3/2/2010 8:08 AM, guymanbro wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , Luc Legrain > > wrote: > > > > > > Question ------> Why won't she Red Line in 5th ? At least once just > > for my personal satisfaction --- > > > > > > > Pull in the clutch, she'll redline. ;') > > > > I've seen 100mph GPS speed on a downhill while tucked in tight. > > > > In another instance, during the 2002 Alcan 5000 I spun the speedo > > needle past 120 mph and back to the wrong side of zero (broke the > > cable), so I had no concept of how fast I was actually going. I passed > > one of the rally cars during a transit section and when we got to the > > special section, he comes up to me and says, "You must've been doing > > at least 120, cuz I was going 100mph and you passed me like I was > > standing still." Can't verify that one. > > > > And one more for fun, on my way back to NYC from Wisconsin (a cousin's > > wedding) I was stuck behind a caravan of school buses and when the > > opportunity finally arose to pass - on an uphill of course - I tucked > > in, pinned the throttle and pulled out to the passing lane. As I pass > > the last of what seemed like a sea of yellow buses, I see a police > > cruiser in the median. DOH! I didn't have time to even look at my > > speedo when he hit the lights and came racing out. > > > > I pulled over, removed my helmet and gloves, and sat on the bike > > waiting for the officer. He came up, noticed the worn out tire > > strapped on top of the Givi tail box, camping gear, clothes, etc. in > > saddlebags, and my ~240lb ass and he said, "Been on the road a while > > huh?" When I told him I was coming from Wisconsin he whistled through > > his teeth and said, "That's a loooong way on a bike like that. Any > > idea how fast you were going?" I responed,"Honestly, officer, I have > > NO idea." He chuckled, fully believing me and said, "Well, I clocked > > you at 95 mph, but I'm gonna do you a favor and you write you a ticket > > for failure to obey a traffic ordinance." I almost begged him for the > > ticket to prove that a heavily loaded KLR could pull 95mph on an > > uphill, but thought about the points and the fine and gladly accepted > > his favor. Speeding ticket would have cost me somewhere in the > > neighborhood of $350, ticket he wrote was listed as a $90 offens e, > > and when I sent my money in, I got a refund of $30 for overpayment. > > > > Sometimes it pays to be polite, smile, and treat a cop like he's just > > a guy doing his job. > > > > da Vermonster > > > > >

revmaaatin
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klr650: :> how do you do it ? <:

Post by revmaaatin » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:09 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
> > No punchline, I think the guy in the Volvo X-country had a speedo that was off or he just thought he was going 100 mph. I don't claim to have gone that fast but maybe the hand of god was giving me a little push... I'm pretty sure the speedo on my KLR just did what it did because of the broken cable. It was on a looooong downhill in the Canadian Rockies. If I remember correctly it was around 6500-7000 rpm, still not quite redline. > > da Vermonster >
Bro, Mo, and others-- Now that we have had a lengthy discussion, etc, I seem to recall a discussion here (4-5 years ago) on the merits of running the KLR650 (OEM, etal) at anything over 6,500 rpms. Torque drops off, fuel consumption increases, and the density of traffic tickets increases exponentially. or was it oil consumption? Different valve timing, and a bigger carb would certainly do wonders for the top end and cut a huge divot in your wallet. Some KLR sage suggested if you want more HP and more MPH, paint it orange. shrug. Orange seems to cut huge divots in the wallet as well, and more than one rider has come back 'home' to the KLR just because it cost so much less to operate/own the venerable VW/Swiss Army knife of motorcycles. How fast is fast enough? shrug. Funny how many bones you can break at

Thomas Komjathy
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wont start cold

Post by Thomas Komjathy » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:56 pm

I think that CR was for the kick start days. Sure, it's easier on the starter, but I have had mine off (removed) for several years with no problem, it turns over fine. The KLR isn't that high in compression, if ti were, then the CR would be necessary. TK [b]From:[/b] revmaaatin [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wed, March 3, 2010 4:17:38 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: wont start cold  
--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > Starting fluid doesn't help? Ether, right? Doesn't help? Bizarre. > > Must be electrical, but if it turns over, I give up. > > The idea that there is a certain "cranking speed" necessary to get it to > fire is ether: > 1) hogwash or > 2) related to the compression release > > WITHOUT a compression release, one revolution will start an engine. If > not, old Harleys would NEVER start. > > > > > Robert P. Wichert > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== > > On 3/1/2010 2:37 PM, jeffstang05 wrote: > > > > ok i totally cant get my bike to start if its below 45 or 50 degrees > > after it starts it runs great I have cleaned the carb checked alot of > > stuff has anybody with a older klr had any problems with the kacr?I > > almost believe thats my problem after its running its fine but > > starting acts like no compression I did remove the spring on the kacr > > but it didnt seem to affect it one way or another starting fluid > > doesnt even have a effect on it but like I said after its running it > > runs like a champ no smoke plenty of power no signs of a worn engine > > and after its warm it continues to start right up wich if it was a > > valve to tight it seems like my problem starting would be the other > > way around. has anybody totally disconnected the kacr for any extended > > amount of time. > > If you are certain that it is temp related, I would: 1. look at the enriching circuit, ie, it is not enriching (usually more needed at lower temps, and 2. make sure you did not have a dirty or overserviced airfilter. 3. That you did not have an air leak or a sloppy joint (airleak) on both sides of the carb. revmaaatin. 4. proper sparkplug, proper gap.

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