nklr torque wrench use for loosening fasteners

[Rick McCauley]

NOW you tell me ! :- ( Rick (drowning in Illinois) Rick A17

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, fasteddiecopeman wrote: From: fasteddiecopeman Subject: Re: Fork Oil Suggestions To: ramachm12@... Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 4:09 PM What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. Ed --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > Sorry. I had to bring it up. I drained my forks, and now i am not sure of the proper proceedure for refilling them. The book says one thing, but I have heard there were erroros in the book. > Sooo, whoever knows, with out a doubt, the proper procedure for filling forks, please let Kevin and I in on the secret. > > Rick (drowning in Illinois) > A17 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. > Ed

Hi Ed, How well would that procedure would work on a bike with a blown fork seal? or a bike with an unknown history? or, draining an improperly serviced fork? In a pinch, I would agree with your suggestion-- But not as a rule of thumb. otherwise, It will be a slight-of-hand operation and the results will be all 'forked up' (or down--depending on the +/- volume). revmaaatin.

[Mike Hansen]

7.5 inches from top of Fork tube. take a piece of coat hanger and measure and bend one end so it doesnt fall into the fork tube. now, use the steel coat hanger as a dip stick. when oil is visible at your 7.5 inch mark. then your done. if you over fill. drain a little. this is will the spring out and forks depressed. -Mike- ________________________________ From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:27:52 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Fork Oil Suggestions

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. > Ed Hi Ed, How well would that procedure would work on a bike with a blown fork seal? or a bike with an unknown history? or, draining an improperly serviced fork? In a pinch, I would agree with your suggestion-- But not as a rule of thumb. otherwise, It will be a slight-of-hand operation and the results will be all 'forked up' (or down--depending on the +/- volume). revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[bad_dancer2008]

Buy a hand spray bottle, pull off the pump and cut the inlet tube length to where you want the fluid level. Fill up the fork tubes, insert the inlet tube into the fork until and pump away until you can pump no more directing the stream back into the fork oil bottle.

> 7.5 inches from top of Fork tube. take a piece of coat hanger and measure and bend one end so it doesnt fall into the fork tube. now, use the steel coat hanger as a dip stick. when oil is visible at your 7.5 inch mark. then your done. if you over fill. drain a little. this is will the spring out and forks depressed. > > -Mike-

[Rick McCauley]

Both good ideas. 7.5 inches is 190mm. I am installing proggressive springs. Which is better, 190 or 170 (6-3/4") ? Rick (drowning in Illinois) A17

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, bad_dancer2008 wrote: From: bad_dancer2008 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Fork Oil Suggestions To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:20 AM Buy a hand spray bottle, pull off the pump and cut the inlet tube length to where you want the fluid level. Fill up the fork tubes, insert the inlet tube into the fork until and pump away until you can pump no more directing the stream back into the fork oil bottle. > 7.5 inches from top of Fork tube. take a piece of coat hanger and measure and bend one end so it doesnt fall into the fork tube. now, use the steel coat hanger as a dip stick. when oil is visible at your 7.5 inch mark. then your done. if you over fill. drain a little. this is will the spring out and forks depressed. > > -Mike- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

Martin, VERY good question! First time I did it I marked the container so that NEXT time I did it I didn't have to re-collect it...! So far - works fine for me. Cheers, Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > > > What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. > > Ed > > Hi Ed, > How well would that procedure would work on a bike with a blown fork seal? > or a bike with an unknown history? > or, draining an improperly serviced fork? > > In a pinch, I would agree with your suggestion-- > But not as a rule of thumb. > otherwise, > It will be a slight-of-hand operation > and the results will be all > 'forked up' (or down--depending on the +/- volume). > > revmaaatin. >

[k650]

I'm convinced the 190 figure was a misprint. Go with 170 as everyone I know that tried it says its better. Walt

----- Original Message ----- Both good ideas. 7.5 inches is 190mm. I am installing proggressive springs. Which is better, 190 or 170 (6-3/4") ? Rick (drowning in Illinois) A17

[Rick McCauley]

OK. One more question. I was worried that raising the oil level might increase internal pressures. Has anyone, that did 170mm, noticed a decrease in seal life? Rick (drowning in Illinois) A17

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Fork Oil Suggestions To: ramachm12@..., dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:50 AM I'm convinced the 190 figure was a misprint. Go with 170 as everyone I know that tried it says its better. Walt ----- Original Message ----- Both good ideas. 7.5 inches is 190mm. I am installing proggressive springs. Which is better, 190 or 170 (6-3/4") ? Rick (drowning in Illinois) A17 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Thats fine, providing the forks "had" the correct level in them to begin with. Dooden A!5 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > Martin, > VERY good question! First time I did it I marked the container so that NEXT time I did it I didn't have to re-collect it...! So far - works fine for me. > Cheers, > Ed > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > > > > > What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. > > > Ed > > > > Hi Ed, > > How well would that procedure would work on a bike with a blown fork seal? > > or a bike with an unknown history? > > or, draining an improperly serviced fork? > > > > In a pinch, I would agree with your suggestion-- > > But not as a rule of thumb. > > otherwise, > > It will be a slight-of-hand operation > > and the results will be all > > 'forked up' (or down--depending on the +/- volume). > > > > revmaaatin. > > >

[Jeff Saline]

Listers, I think my reply last night was a bit unclear regarding loosening fasteners with a torque wrench. Normally you should not loosen fasteners with a torque wrench. Even when they are stated as accurate in either direction. Torque wrenches are designed for a smooth and steady pressure. That's what you want when tightening a fastener. When you break a fastener loose you can normally apply a smooth and steady increase in pressure until the fastener loosens. Then there often is a snapping type of force when the fastener torque is overcome which can damage torque wrench internals. So use a torque wrench to tighten fasteners in a smooth and steady manner and use "other" means to loosen fasteners. Sorry about the poorly written post from me last night. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Can't pay your bills? Click here to learn about filing for bankruptcy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLjhccJxVaZQfPz7ETOrX4bOqtYGz0K4WCQOKxRKLVCLRyWa2dl8s/