checking valves at 500 mile first service

[Matt Knowles]

On Feb 1, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Kerry Stottlemyer wrote:

> At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up and > down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass exhaust > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as loud > as the idiots in my area. >

Didn't your mother ever give you that lecture that just because all your friends are idiots, doesn't mean you have to be one too? If you're not a member of AMA, I would suggest you join and learn how the noise problem is affecting all of us, regardless of whether you ride a DP, sport bike or cruiser. Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Kerry Stottlemyer]

Thats what I'm getting at. Loud is a relative term and I by no means want a window rattling bike. It just sounded like some were being overly concerned with the happieness of their neighbors. Yes there is a big differance between something that sounds a little bit ballsy and just plain earbleeding loud. But every other post was how someone tryed a supertrap, Big gun whatever only to remove it because it was to loud. Supertrap states on their web page that the pipe will not exceed the stock noise level unless you are using the race pipe on road then shame on you. As with any Illegal aftermarket part that is a direct safety hazard you should be drug out in the street an shot. If you are riding in the National forests or state parks with no spark arestor they should tow your bike. Anyway I was just wondering what all the concern was about. Kerry

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > Have you considered areas that allow you to ride your bike, lets say > trails that are shared with perhaps horses or close to campgrounds, > and now loud bikes with no USDA spark arrestors are riding around > basically pissing off other folks to have paid to camp in a relative > quiet place or paid to camp where they can take horses and ride the > forest roads/trails only to have bikes going by scaring the horse > which they are sitting upon endangering them and the horse ? > > "as the idiots in my area." you said that not me, I can not understand > why somebody would take a lets say HD that comes with a nice sounding > exhaust IMO and put something that sounds like straight pipes on it. > > Same goes for the pick up trucks modified to the point its only use to > driving it on the street. > > Nice sounding exhaust is one thing, but just loud for the sake of > being loud to me is stupid. > > I wish my KLR had a sweet sounding exhaust with more tone and somewhat > louder is ok, but megaphone window rattling loud is just noise to me. > > I think fines and violations for such noise are acceptable, heck I > have lived places where if a LEO can hear music coming from your > vehicle you are pulled over and given a ticket, who wants to hear your > trunk lid rattle and shake. Same should go for vehicle exhaust noise > IMHO. > > However I have heard a few KLR's with aftermarket pipes that had nice > tone and were somewhat loud, but not ear piecing loud that maybe if my > stock pipe was toast I would'nt mind installing as a replacement > providing it had a approved spark arrestor. > > Just my thoughts, from a rural area with many places I can ride > without pavement under my tires and unless I am seen, I can almost bet > I am not heard either. > > I bought a KLR cause I planned on riding in all types of places, > pavement, street, trails, swamps, forest roads, logging roads. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Stottlemyer" > wrote: > > > > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad attitude. > > I just don't understand the big deal in having a quiet bike. > > At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up and > > down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass exhaust > > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket > > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as loud > > as the idiots in my area. > > I can understand if you live in a quiet area outside of town, rural > > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to crank it up. > > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells. > > Kerry > > > > > > Snip > > I switched > > > back to stock on the exhaust as the Big Gun pisses people off and > > has > > > no spark arrestor plus you have to repack. > Criswell > > End snip > > >

[Jim Priest]

On 2/1/07, Kerry Stottlemyer wrote:

> whatever only to remove it because it was to loud. Supertrap states > on their web page that the pipe will not exceed the stock noise > level unless you are using the race pipe on road then shame on you.

That's called 'marketing'. I've had two Supercrapps and both were louder than stock... this was awhile ago so maybe the new ones are quieter but I seriously doubt it's as quiet as stock. Here is the AMA on noise: http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/positions/noise.asp Jim

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Stottlemyer" wrote:

> > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad attitude.

It does.

> I just don't understand the big deal in having a quiet bike.

I don't want to ride with loud bikes, and I don't want somebody else's loud bike to cost me riding area.

> At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up and > down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass exhaust > notes.

That's one way to know I'm not riding with them. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket

> exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as loud > as the idiots in my area.

Loud is loud.

> I can understand if you live in a quiet area outside of town, rural > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to crank it up. > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.

I bought mine to ride on the road and off the road. I want to keep doing both.

> Kerry >

Jud

[Douglas Bouley]

A previous thread discussed the need to check the valves at the 500 mile first service. Here is another tiny bit o' datum... I had my 06 in for 500 mile service at the selling dealer, but did subsequent oil changes myself. Just now I had the bike in to a different shop for routine winter service at around 3k miles. Normally, the valves would not get checked this soon, but having come to have little faith in work product of the first shop, I asked the current shop to check 'em anyway and set then at the loose end if any adjustment was required. All 4 valves were re-shimmed. My guess is that shop #1 did not check them at all at First Service. I suppose they could have changed a lot in the ensuing 2500 miles, but I wonder... I have heard the expression here that "tappy valves are happy valves". I always wondered what slappy-tappy-happy valves sound like. Now I know. The old girl does seem happier with her slap-happy adjustment. Seems to me that the 500 mile check is a good idea (assuming they actually do it, of course). Those with tool talent will do their own, but those of us with hands of fluff should probably get someone to look at 'em. I might well have had problems had I not had them checked at 3k miles and just continued DIY oil changes, etc. BTW, shop #2 was pretty good. They did a nice thorough job, recorded everything, answered all my questions and were reasonably priced for this (expensive) geographical area. Just so ya know they aren't all thieves. I even got a well-deserved lecture about my dry air filter Shop #2 is Coleman Power Sports in Falls Church, VA. doug in dc